Game Day Dallas Cowboys at Carolina Panthers Postgame

[jujoboys]

What a ridiculous comment.

Don't give this man that draft BS where the foundation of your team is built and in Dallas the only avenue you have to improve your team.

A simpleton fan would rather win a game in a lost season than improve your draft position. One is completely meaningless. The other can have a positive impact on your roster for many years to come.

I went to the game thinking like some of you guys are thinking. It was a win/win either way for me. We win, I get to enjoy it. We lose, our draft pick gets better. But when you are at the game and you hear other fans talking smack and cheering for your team to lose there is no freaking way I can root against our guys. The Ricos, Lambs, and other guys busting their rears deserve the satisfaction of a win. The win was not meaningless for the people at the game or the people playing in the game. Call me names like simpleton and attack me personally all you want but I root for my team to win. If you want to root for them to lose then so be it. Maybe we can move up to pick 6 and draft another Morris Claiborne or maybe we can just keep trying to win a little more and end up with a Lamb.

 

[Risen Star]

I went to the game thinking like some of you guys are thinking. It was a win/win either way for me. We win, I get to enjoy it. We lose, our draft pick gets better. But when you are at the game and you hear other fans talking smack and cheering for your team to lose there is no freaking way I can root against our guys. The Ricos, Lambs, and other guys busting their rears deserve the satisfaction of a win. The win was not meaningless for the people at the game or the people playing in the game. Call me names like simpleton and attack me personally all you want but I root for my team to win. If you want to root for them to lose then so be it. Maybe we can move up to pick 6 and draft another Morris Claiborne or maybe we can just keep trying to win a little more and end up with a Lamb.

Yeah none of that matters to me. That's emotion. Emotion makes you make dumb decisions.

What I care about in a season that is already lost is to maximize the opportunity to have an impactful offseason and you do that with the higher draft pick.

Beating the Carolina Panthers in week 15 to improve to 6-8 does nothing to help the team next year. It only hurts it.

 

[G2]

I'd bench any player I intend to keep healthy for next season. Hindsight, it would have nice in Overshown's situation.

 

[atlantacowboy]

This was a stupid win by a stupid franchise. The team doesn't wheel and deal. So, all we got is drafting. Not making the playoffs is not making the playoffs. It's a failed season whether your record is 1-16 or 9-8. The only prize for not making the playoffs is an opportunity to draft an impact player. We NEED a top 10 pick not another win.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This was a stupid win by a stupid franchise. The team doesn't wheel and deal. So, all we got is drafting. Not making the playoffs is not making the playoffs. It's a failed season whether your record is 1-16 or 9-8. The only prize for not making the playoffs is an opportunity to draft an impact player. We NEED a top 10 pick not another win.

We also have to face the fact that we blow draft picks.

Telling our young players it's okay to throw the game might be more detrimental than lower draft picks.

Not sure if a pro would respond to it, but I'd rather show them we're gonna fight to the end every way, every time. Attitude.

 

[G2]

This was a stupid win by a stupid franchise. The team doesn't wheel and deal. So, all we got is drafting. Not making the playoffs is not making the playoffs. It's a failed season whether your record is 1-16 or 9-8. The only prize for not making the playoffs is an opportunity to draft an impact player. We NEED a top 10 pick not another win.

Agreed. All we're proving to accomplish is getting more play makers injured.

 

[DallasEast]

If you are a Cowboys’ fan then you root for them to win. If you root for them to lose then you are simply not a true fan in my opinion. And don’t give me the draft BS.

Anyone will always receive flack for pointing this out. Rooting has zero tangible effects on what a team does unless it is due to noise created inside a stadium.

Rooting has zero effects on which players are picked by any team. By golly, it has zero effect on making idiot Jerry Jones smarter or wiser on the picks he signs off on. I would be stroking out rooting for losses if that were the case, lol.

99.9% of rooting serves one purpose: self-gratifying fulfillment. It makes a person feel good to cheer for favorite teams, players, etc.

Rooting guarantees nothing else. And it 100% does not secure bona fide players, who will 100% help their teams win as professionals.

Even the 'it increases the odds of gaining the best players' argument is completely contingent on which players are drafted by each team. Additionally, fans' personal hopes-and-dreams hinges solely upon how well each player translate their college talent to the professional level.

This will always be an illogical back-and-forth. Rooting for wins does not guarantee the best players that will work best in an offense or defense, regardless if it is pick number one overall or Mr. Irrelevant. Ditto for rooting for losses.

In the end, all drafting, good and bad, is contingent upon sound, thorough, intelligent evaluation of an entire front office staff. That includes the one person deciding if any projected, pre-draft chart selection is the optimal guy to pick.

 

[jujoboys]

Yeah none of that matters to me. That's emotion. Emotion makes you make dumb decisions.

What I care about in a season that is already lost is to maximize the opportunity to have an impactful offseason and you do that with the higher draft pick.

Beating the Carolina Panthers in week 15 to improve to 6-8 does nothing to help the team next year. It only hurts it.

Would you rather have players on the team that quit or try to win? Winning is more than emotion, it shows true character. Bringing new players into an environment where it is acceptable to tank and lose games is pointless. I get your point and I don’t blame you for wanting a higher draft pick. We will probably lose the next 3 and end up 6-11. The draft position may not even be different than if we went 5-12. I just want a team that is still trying and giving max effort. The players that don’t need to be shown the door. I don’t want players that are thinking about quitting or tanking.

 

[jujoboys]

Anyone will always receive flack for pointing this out. Rooting has zero tangible effects on what a team does unless it is due to noise created inside a stadium.

Rooting has zero effects on which players are picked by any team. By golly, it has zero effect on making idiot Jerry Jones smarter or wiser on the picks he signs off on. I would be stroking out rooting for losses if that were the case, lol.

99.9% of rooting serves one purpose: self-gratifying fulfillment. It makes a person feel good to cheer for favorite teams, players, etc.

Rooting guarantees nothing else. And it 100% does not secure bona fide players, who will 100% help their teams win as professionals.

Even the 'it increases the odds of gaining the best players' argument is completely contingent on which players are drafted by each team. Additionally, fans' personal hopes-and-dreams hinges solely upon how well each player translate their college talent to the professional level.

This will always be an illogical back-and-forth. Rooting for wins does not guarantee the best players that will work best in an offense or defense, regardless if it is pick number one overall or Mr. Irrelevant. Ditto for rooting for losses.

In the end, all drafting, good and bad, is contingent upon sound, thorough, intelligent evaluation of an entire front office staff. That includes the one person deciding if any projected, pre-draft chart selection is the optimal guy to pick.

I just can’t bring myself to sit down and root for the other team to beat us. It is not in my DNA. Do I take the losses right now as hard as I would if we were in playoff contention? Of course not. I want them to win every game possible because I feel better when they win. There may be a kid at that stadium seeing The Cowboys for the first time and maybe the only time ever. That kid and every Cowboys fan in that stadium deserves to see players giving 100%. Just win baby. Jerry and company need to learn you can’t build a team solely through the draft and they shouldn’t rely totally on the draft.

 

[Chuck 54]

What a ridiculous comment.

Don't give this man that draft BS where the foundation of your team is built and in Dallas the only avenue you have to improve your team.

A simpleton fan would rather win a game in a lost season than improve your draft position. One is completely meaningless. The other can have a positive impact on your roster for many years to come.

I don’t mind the team losing, but I’ll never want them to lose intentionally. Play to win the game; play for yourself and your teammates. If you still lose, like last week, I’m happy, not at all disappointed. If you win, like this week, I lament the draft position, but I’m still happy. It all works out. We will finish 6-11 or 7-10, most likely. All will work out.

 

[DandyDon52]

Honestly getting 1000 yards in todays NFL isn't impressive....that's 59 yards a game.....

yeah 1700 yds for 17 game season. or at leat 1500
Rico, had he got the carries he should have might have had 1700 by end of season.

 

[DandyDon52]

I just can’t bring myself to sit down and root for the other team to beat us. It is not in my DNA. Do I take the losses right now as hard as I would if we were in playoff contention? Of course not. I want them to win every game possible because I feel better when they win. There may be a kid at that stadium seeing The Cowboys for the first time and maybe the only time ever. That kid and every Cowboys fan in that stadium deserves to see players giving 100%. Just win baby. Jerry and company need to learn you can’t build a team solely through the draft and they shouldn’t rely totally on the draft.

all true, but next april when they are picking # 5 overall and in each round, you will forget about those losses the previous season.
Those draft picks can help the team for years.
Lamb was # 10 overall , would not have had him if not for a losing season.

Teams tank by not putting the best players out there, and coaches, play callers can lose games without anyone knowing.

 

[DandyDon52]

We should petition the NCAA and see if we can play in a bowl game.

that is funny, and a good idea!
being the cowboys it would draw a huge audience.
They could play the national champ ?

 

[DandyDon52]

Kansas City only beat Carolina 30-27. Philly beat them just 22-16.

that is strange, it could be that carolina play calling and game plan was different for this game?

I just dont see dallas being better than those 2 teams they almost beat.

 

[DandyDon52]

118 QB rating. The highest of any QB this year, and he doesn’t make $60 mil.

Cooper Rush#10

team

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
18/29	214	7.4	3	0	1-15	55.5	119.0

yet some say he is not a nfl qb even ! lol
Ol noodle arm did pretty good in this game. Compare to dak this year and I think they both have won 3 games.
now lets compare to former heisman trophy winner, and the franchise qb making about 5 times what coop makes.

Bryce Young#9

team

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
19/28	219	7.8	1	2	6-44	11.3	73.4
19/28	175	7.8	1	2	6-44	--	73.4

 

[DandyDon52]

He was too tired to do that, the guy was sucking wind after the one play

he is overweight

 

[TheSport78]

Cooper Rush#10

team

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
18/29	214	7.4	3	0	1-15	55.5	119.0

yet some say he is not a nfl qb even ! lol
Ol noodle arm did pretty good in this game. Compare to dak this year and I think they both have won 3 games.
now lets compare to former heisman trophy winner, and the franchise qb making about 5 times what coop makes.

Bryce Young#9

team

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
19/28	219	7.8	1	2	6-44	11.3	73.4
19/28	175	7.8	1	2	6-44	--	73.4

He's servicable, for sure. Nobody could convince me that Dak would've had significantly better numbers than Rush did yesterday. Again, I'm not saying Rush is a better player, but based on their salaries, the conversation at least holds some water.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Anyone will always receive flack for pointing this out. Rooting has zero tangible effects on what a team does unless it is due to noise created inside a stadium.

Rooting has zero effects on which players are picked by any team. By golly, it has zero effect on making idiot Jerry Jones smarter or wiser on the picks he signs off on. I would be stroking out rooting for losses if that were the case, lol.

99.9% of rooting serves one purpose: self-gratifying fulfillment. It makes a person feel good to cheer for favorite teams, players, etc.

Rooting guarantees nothing else. And it 100% does not secure bona fide players, who will 100% help their teams win as professionals.

Even the 'it increases the odds of gaining the best players' argument is completely contingent on which players are drafted by each team. Additionally, fans' personal hopes-and-dreams hinges solely upon how well each player translate their college talent to the professional level.

This will always be an illogical back-and-forth. Rooting for wins does not guarantee the best players that will work best in an offense or defense, regardless if it is pick number one overall or Mr. Irrelevant. Ditto for rooting for losses.

In the end, all drafting, good and bad, is contingent upon sound, thorough, intelligent evaluation of an entire front office staff. That includes the one person deciding if any projected, pre-draft chart selection is the optimal guy to pick.

I know you are old enough to remember when we rooted how we rooted without risk of scorn. If you wanted to buy the preseason NFL preview magazine to get that article of Roger or pic Emmitt..well...you did that. If you wanted to wear a paper bag on your head at the game....you and others...DID THAT!

It's a weird new phenomenon to get told you are not a fan for fanning how you want. But then modern social media and social changes have certainly changed a lot of things.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

yeah 1700 yds for 17 game season. or at leat 1500
Rico, had he got the carries he should have might have had 1700 by end of season.

Not sure it's JUST "the carries". I think it's combination of different things....that were not present earlier in the season.

 

[BoysForLife]

Yeah none of that matters to me. That's emotion. Emotion makes you make dumb decisions.

What I care about in a season that is already lost is to maximize the opportunity to have an impactful offseason and you do that with the higher draft pick.

Beating the Carolina Panthers in week 15 to improve to 6-8 does nothing to help the team next year. It only hurts it.

Long term you're probably correct.

However, another long term perspective for consideration:

Isn't it a good thing that we have guys that are still competing hard (probably as hard as we've competed all season TBH) even though we're banged up and have almost zero chance of being in the postseason?

If there was ever a time to roll over and die this would be it. They're not doing that. This tells me there are still at least a few dawgs in that locker room