News: Dallas Cowboys Drafted More Pro Bowlers Than Any Other NFL Team Over Last 10 Years

[KJJ]

Unfortunately most of those Pro Bowlers have been on the offensive side of the ball. We've been missing on defense for more than a decade and it keeps costing us every time we make the playoffs.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Kidding self? Not the least...just giving credit and credibility where it belongs. Top 4 team in the NFC is merit enough for now...now take your down ride to someone who will continue to listen to that agenda. I don't tell any athlete or team they have failed for any reason, much less they were NOT the Champions that year or years. Good night...

Sorry, I'm not a Russian and believing in a five year plan of pure failures. Why, no Lombardi?

Fact is, the Cowboys played good enough to be in the NFC Championship games for two of the past three seasons.

Who cares though? Who cares about the Wild Card, Divisional, or Chip rounds?

If you dont go to the Super Bowl and win, you did not achieve what you set out to do.

MVP honors, Pro Bowls, Division champs, #1 seed? Who cares. The object was to win the Super Bowl, and for the past 20 years this team has STUNK in the playoffs.

 

[Gameover]

Roy Williams was a 5-time pro bowler. Enough said.

Vince Young made the pro bowl.

I remember one year, Jay Novacek had about 40 catches for 400 yards and a TD. Made the Pro Bowl.

It's a popularity contest.

Those 25 wins? Popularity? Every pro bowler they've drafted this decade has been all pro or won the rookie of the year. That doesn't come with just popularity.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This is only because the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest like American Idol.

Who are all these Cowboys pro bowlers the last decade who made it solely due to their popularity?

I'm sure we can think of a few examples but so could most teams.

Our issue is that our pro bowlers have been concentrated on offense. And yet you still have zoners praising high offensive selections and advocating for RT, WR or TE @28.

Smh

 

[Gameover]

Who are all these Cowboys pro bowlers the last decade who made it solely due to their popularity?

I'm sure we can think of a few examples but so could most teams.

Our issue is that our pro bowlers have been concentrated on offense. And yet you still have zoners praising high offensive selections and advocating for RT, WR or TE @28.

Smh

I want the Bama TE!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I want the Bama TE!

:|

 

[LocimusPrime]

So many pro bowls so little Super Bowls. Makes you wanna smoke a bowl

 

[Beast_from_East]

Waaaahhh!!!

Lets turn every single thread this off season into a cry fest!

1 playoff win in the past 7 seasons................that is not crying, that is stating the facts.

 

[Beast_from_East]

At least the goalposts have moved. Not long ago we were stupid homers for suggesting the team drafts well. Then we couldn't get over .500 because of the head coach. Now it's that we can't win in the playoffs. Eventually, maybe we'll get to hear a bunch of hilarious posts about how they like to eat their crow regarding playoff wins, and it'll all be good. We can just pretend it doesn't really matter.

That is a circular argument Idgit. The fact is that the team has only won 1 playoff game over the past 7 years under Garrett.

Now what has contributed to that is a lack of drafting well on the defensive side of the ball, is an inability to break .500 for three consecutive seasons, is being in position in playoff games where a bad play or a bad call ends up being a loss.

I guess the point is that all of these things are not mutually exclusive, all of them have contributed to why we have only won a single playoff game in the last 7 seasons. Now when these things start changing, then the outcome will start to change as well. That means we have to start drafting well on the defensive side of the ball, we have to have multiple seasons of breaking .500 to be in a position to make the playoffs, and we have to make enough plays once in the playoffs that a bad call by an official or a bad play by our offense or defense does not cost us the game.

That is why your argument is circular logic, because all the things you say are moving the goal post are what has contributed to our inability to win in the playoffs. Change those things like I outlined above and maybe the playoff outcomes will start being different.

 

[Idgit]

That is a circular argument Idgit. The fact is that the team has only won 1 playoff game over the past 7 years under Garrett.

Now what has contributed to that is a lack of drafting well on the defensive side of the ball, is an inability to break .500 for three consecutive seasons, is being in position in playoff games where a bad play or a bad call ends up being a loss.

I guess the point is that all of these things are not mutually exclusive, all of them have contributed to why we have only won a single playoff game in the last 7 seasons. Now when these things start changing, then the outcome will start to change as well. That means we have to start drafting well on the defensive side of the ball, we have to have multiple seasons of breaking .500 to be in a position to make the playoffs, and we have to make enough plays once in the playoffs that a bad call by an official or a bad play by our offense or defense does not cost us the game.

That is why your argument is circular logic, because all the things you say are moving the goal post are what has contributed to our inability to win in the playoffs. Change those things like I outlined above and maybe the playoff outcomes will start being different.

It's not circular at all. It's just a retelling of the laundry list of complaints we've heard over the years. The fact that we can't get over .500, for example. Obviously that wasn't a valid criticism. We've gone 12-4 and 13-3 in two of the last three years. The premium draft resources clearly have been spent disproportionately on offense. That's great, but the defense lacks talent.

We're not losing these playoff games because of officials or play calling. We're losing them because we can't stop Aaron Rodgers. And that happens because we can't pressure the passer significantly. It's not a coaching problem, it's a personnel problem. Because it's hard to build a Superbowl winning roster.

 

[IrishAnto]

It's not circular at all. It's just a retelling of the laundry list of complaints we've heard over the years. The fact that we can't get over .500, for example. Obviously that wasn't a valid criticism. We've gone 12-4 and 13-3 in two of the last three years. The premium draft resources clearly have been spent disproportionately on offense. That's great, but the defense lacks talent.

We're not losing these playoff games because of officials or play calling. We're losing them because we can't stop Aaron Rodgers. And that happens because we can't pressure the passer significantly. It's not a coaching problem, it's a personnel problem. Because it's hard to build a Superbowl winning roster.

Let's be honest here, a big part of the reason the defense lacks talent is we gamble high round picks on players that have talent but problems that prevent them from playing i.e. Gregory and Smith.

In addition we've spent more 2nd round picks on TEs we cant/wont use and some of those picks could have been spent on defense e.g. picking Escobar when we could have picked Beenie Logan.

Throw in misses on picks (which all teams have) Bruce Carter and Mo Claiborne and that's a lot of high end draft real estate that's not on the pitch on game day.

So stop gambling on players and identify picks you can actually use and that's primarily on Jerry and Stephen (or mostly Jerry with the gambles).

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Will the Jerry and Garret apologists please wake me up when the NFL starts giving out SB trophies to the teams that "drafts most pro bowlers"?

If anything this is an even greater indictment of Garrett that he can't take all these pro bowlers and even make the NFC CG

He will, but the goapost will move again like Idgit said.

 

[HeavyBarrel]

So you're saying we won the "popular vote"......

 

[Boyzmamacita]

You couldnt be more confused than you are displaying here.

Two thumbs up for the great year, but Id trade it ALL for the Super Bowl

But it's irrelevant that you would. We didn't do what we set out to do this year, but we saw saw improvements in many areas - even on defense. Those rewards were all deserved and could be an indication of what the future holds. We can't change the past, but allowing disappointment to stop you from looking forward to the future is unhealthy. Trading it ALL for the Super Bowl is not an option. But looking forward to the real possibility that we will contend for it in the future is.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

But it's irrelevant that you would. We didn't do what we set out to do this year, but we saw saw improvements in many areas - even on defense. Those rewards were all deserved and could be an indication of what the future holds. We can't change the past, but allowing disappointment to stop you from looking forward to the future is unhealthy. Trading it ALL for the Super Bowl is not an option. But looking forward to the real possibility that we will contend for it in the future is.

Well obviously I cant actually trade it all lmao

 

[Stash]

He will, but the goapost will move again like Idgit said.

Nobody's "moving goalposts". Some people's goalposts are just higher than others.

 

[visionary]

He will, but the goapost will move again like Idgit said.

The goalpost has always been the same

Last time I looked, the objective is to win the SB
That is and always will be the goalpost

It is Garrett homies who keep pointing to other things to distract the fans from his failures

The fact is that there have been several coaches that have been hired the year or after Garrett was hired who have taken their teams to SBs and even won SBs and none of them were gifted a top 10 QB already familiar with their system as Garrett got when he took over

So this whole notion of Garrett "building the team" is just baloney

Garrett was unfit to be HC when hired and to this day is an average HC and below average on game day

At some point one has to look at the actual accomplishments band not get lost in homerism

 

[Hardline]

One thing about this thread is it separates the fans that want Super Bowl championships and those happy with participation trophies.

 

[dogunwo]

I correctly predicted the responses and who would post before even opening the thread.

 

[dogunwo]

1 playoff win in the past 7 seasons................that is not crying, that is stating the facts.

Two, if you count the first round bye.