News: Dallas Cowboys Drafted More Pro Bowlers Than Any Other NFL Team Over Last 10 Years

[Idgit]

Will the Jerry and Garret apologists please wake me up when the NFL starts giving out SB trophies to the teams that "drafts most pro bowlers"?

If anything this is an even greater indictment of Garrett that he can't take all these pro bowlers and even make the NFC CG

Except the team does keep getting better. And some of us have been pointing out that the lack of sufficient defensive talent was going to show up in the playoffs where it always does for years now.

I'm not sure what's difficult about the concept of building a team gradually through the draft. We're a good team that drafts well that lacks talent on defense. We've got a window of contention that's wide open and work to do on one side of the ball.

We're talking both sides of the equation. That equation just doesn't balance if you can't stop great QBs from scoring at will for long stretches of a game.

 

[visionary]

Except the team does keep getting better. And some of us have been pointing out that the lack of sufficient defensive talent was going to show up in the playoffs where it always does for years now.

I'm not sure what's difficult about the concept of building a team gradually through the draft. We're a good team that drafts well that lacks talent on defense. We've got a window of contention that's wide open and work to do on one side of the ball.

We're talking both sides of the equation. That equation just doesn't balance if you can't stop great QBs from scoring at will for long stretches of a game.

How long does the team need to "keep getting better" before they actually win in the post season, get to a SB and actually win?

Since Garrett has been here "building" other teams have hired HCs, "built" the team, gone to conference championship games, WON CGs, and gone to and even won the SB

Meanwhile, were still "building"

Oh wait, we have drafted a lot of pro bowlers
Do we get a participation trophy ?
Maybe Garrett can be Brady's ball boy at the next SB?

 

[Idgit]

How long does the team need to "keep getting better" before they actually win in the post season, get to a SB and actually win?

Since Garrett has been here "building" other teams have hired HCs, "built" the team, gone to conference championship games, WON CGs, and gone to and even won the SB

Meanwhile, were still "building"

Oh wait, we have drafted a lot of pro bowlers
Do we get a participation trophy ?
Maybe Garrett can be Brady's ball boy at the next SB?

As long as they arrow is up, I keep doing what we're doing, if that's what your'e asking. Not every contending team wins a Superbowl every season they're contending. Some good ones don't at all. Some take a while to break through. Some get breaks and win when they probably shouldn't. Some teams are good enough from top to bottom that they build dynasties.

We're a contender right now. And we've got one obvious liability that's not really all that difficult to address if we can identify the defensive talent. That's a pretty good situation to be in. The objective should be to use the drafting competency to address the defense finally and to stay in position to contend for championships as long as we can.

Not sure why you're mocking the team's ability to identify probowlers. That's generally going to be considered a good thing by most people.

I don't think Garrett will end up Brady's ball boy at the next Superbowl, but it's a great suggestion.

 

[visionary]

As long as they arrow is up, I keep doing what we're doing, if that's what your'e asking. Not every contending team wins a Superbowl every season they're contending. Some good ones don't at all. Some take a while to break through. Some get breaks and win when they probably shouldn't. Some teams are good enough from top to bottom that they build dynasties.

We're a contender right now. And we've got one obvious liability that's not really all that difficult to address if we can identify the defensive talent. That's a pretty good situation to be in. The objective should be to use the drafting competency to address the defense finally and to stay in position to contend for championships as long as we can.

Not sure why you're mocking the team's ability to identify probowlers. That's generally going to be considered a good thing by most people.

I don't think Garrett will end up Brady's ball boy at the next Superbowl, but it's a great suggestion.

When you have multiple pro bowlers and top 10 QB play year after year but don't win in the playoffs, the "liability" is not just the defense, it is the coaching

 

[CCBoy]

None of that matters utimately. Id trade it all to taste what NE had last night.

Whatever the scenario, whatever the reason, we dont win the playoffs anymore. Until proven otherwise, Im not sure how anyone can argue it

I don't care how many moaners blow off, pampers are a cheap remedy for always taking a pee no matter what is played out before them. Blame it on your Mommy now.

 

[CCBoy]

When you have multiple pro bowlers and top 10 QB play year after year but don't win in the playoffs, the "liability" is not just the defense, it is the coaching

Nothing but the facts, huh? Now where exactly did the complete rebuild following the lockout come into effect?

 

[CCBoy]

The real "crybabies" are the ones who can't handle both sides of the equation.

They're all in for the 'pat on the back' part where the Cowboys are praised for having 'all of these Pro Bowlers'.

But they can't handle the 'kick in the pants' part where someone then asks why - despite all of these Pro Bowlers - they still can't manage to win when it truly counts?

Let's see, Elliott, Prescott, the offensive line, and Jason Garrett didn't deserve distinction for a great season?

As I've said for years.

The problem with this team isn't finding talent. We do that.

It's how we mesh the talent together, exploit our strengths and hide our weaknesses as well as overcome injuries.




YR

Next tell us this year was a poor year by ANYONE'S standards...

 

[Idgit]

When you have multiple pro bowlers and top 10 QB play year after year but don't win in the playoffs, the "liability" is not just the defense, it is the coaching

That doesn't follow logically.

Either way, there were a handful of contending teams this season. NE, ATL, GB, DAL were all in that group, for sure. We got beat by another contender. It sucks that it was at home, it sucks that it happened after such a fun season. But we knew going in (or should have, because we've seen it enough) that we don't have the defensive talent to stop an elite offense. To beat those teams, we have to outscore them and control the clock. To do that, you can't have drive killing penalties, and you can't be extending drives for the other guys.

I have my own problems with the coaching in this last game. I think it was stupid to try to rotate personnel on Rodgers when he's demonstrated he will burn you with it. I think Garrett let the team get overhyped for the start of this game after the week off and it hurt them. But mostly, I think we just didn't execute well early. Witten/Dak blew the protection on the sack on the 2nd drive and GB did a great job defending Dez on that third down. We had the stupid obscure penalty on Butler (technically a coaching error, I guess, but it was a pretty weird interpretation of an obscure rule for early in a home playoff game). And...the defense did not hold up. Sean Lee getting isolated on the TE 30 yards downfield with Rodgers having time to throw. Not getting sufficient pressure. And then pinpoint accuracy against the tight man coverage. They're elite. They just were better than our defenders early and it hurt us.

But the fix for it is to get the sort of talent on defense that you have offensively. We've demonstrated we can do it. We've no longer got anything else to be spending the premium picks on. Just keep getting better players and we're going to eventually get where we're going, and hopefully stay there for a long while.

 

[Stash]

Let's see, Elliott, Prescott, the offensive line, and Jason Garrett didn't deserve distinction for a great season?

Nobody's saying that. They all had fine seasons, deserving of the accolades they received. But make no mistake, they are accolades that will quickly be forgotten. Accolades that pale in comparison to winning the real prize.

Many of us can see past the absolutes of either liking this season and everything about it, or hating everything.

I can be happy about a great season and bright future, and still lament what looks to be a squandered opportunity to accomplish more. It's not an either/or thing for me.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Nobody's saying that. They all had fine seasons, deserving of the accolades they received. But make no mistake, they are accolades that will quickly be forgotten. Accolades that pale in comparison to winning the real prize.

Many of us can see past the absolutes of either liking this season and everything about it, or hating everything.

I can be happy about a great season and bright future, and still lament what looks to be a squandered opportunity to accomplish more. It's not an either/or thing for me.

Well said. Well said

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I don't care how many moaners blow off, pampers are a cheap remedy for always taking a pee no matter what is played out before them. Blame it on your Mommy now.

You couldnt be more confused than you are displaying here.

Two thumbs up for the great year, but Id trade it ALL for the Super Bowl

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

When you have multiple pro bowlers and top 10 QB play year after year but don't win in the playoffs, the "liability" is not just the defense, it is the coaching

Or maybe your pro bowlers just aren't good enough to win?

 

[visionary]

Or maybe your pro bowlers just aren't good enough to win?

Wait, I thought Garrett was the one "building the team"

Not true?
Say it ain't so

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Next tell us this year was a poor year by ANYONE'S standards...

This wasn't a poor year and I've never said, hinted or implied that it was.





YR

 

[CCBoy]

You couldnt be more confused than you are displaying here.

Two thumbs up for the great year, but Id trade it ALL for the Super Bowl

Kidding self? Not the least...just giving credit and credibility where it belongs. Top 4 team in the NFC is merit enough for now...now take your down ride to someone who will continue to listen to that agenda. I don't tell any athlete or team they have failed for any reason, much less they were NOT the Champions that year or years. Good night...

Sorry, I'm not a Russian and believing in a five year plan of pure failures. Why, no Lombardi?

Fact is, the Cowboys played good enough to be in the NFC Championship games for two of the past three seasons.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Wait, I thought Garrett was the one "building the team"

Not true?
Say it ain't so

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. My point is, this is sports. The most talent or the best coaching doesn't always win. It's just how sports is. Falcons did everything right and still look here with no championship and they may never return back.

 

[AdamJT13]

Fan voting is one-third of the selection process. Being popular isn't the same as being successful.

It doesn't actually work that way. It's more accurate to say "fan voting is one of three factors included in the selection process." But because of how those three factors are combined, the fan voting means next to nothing. Who goes to the Pro Bowl is almost entirely determined by the players and coaches.

 

[Gameover]

This is only because the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest like American Idol.

Moronic

Is that why most of those guys have been voted All Pro and Rookie of the year?

Those 25 wins in 2014 and 2016 were given because of our popularity?

 

[erod]

Moronic

Is that why most of those guys have been voted All Pro and Rookie of the year?

Those 25 wins in 2014 and 2016 were given because of our popularity?

Roy Williams was a 5-time pro bowler. Enough said.

Vince Young made the pro bowl.

I remember one year, Jay Novacek had about 40 catches for 400 yards and a TD. Made the Pro Bowl.

It's a popularity contest.

 

[camaro69]

And we are absolutely pathetic in the playoffs

Because all of these pro bowler's are on Offense. I've been a Cowboy's fan since 77. Since we traded for Haley. This team has had a hell of a time finding a 4-3 DE- Shante Carver, Ebenezer Ekubun , Greg Ellis. Until we start drafting pro bowler on Defense we wont win a playoff game,