Dallas didn't need to re- sign Dak

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Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....
Did they need to resign Zeke???
 

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What makes you think Dak will be a good QB when he comes back. He sucked this year for someone making 60 million. He was 3-5!! Almost never made any plays with his legs to convert 3rd downs. I have seen enough of Dak. He is mediocre at best vs good defenses AND that is NOT good enough for the highest paid player in the league!
What makes us think he will be good is that he has a very long track record of being very good. Just last year he was easily a top 2 or 3 quarterback.

I'm not sure if you guys watch other teams, but quarterback play is pretty bad. Geno Smith and Sam Darnold are mentioned and these players are not comparable to Dak.

Darnold has finally played well for the first time in his career, where he has a great offense and a great defense...obviously he has played well but his team is wayy better than what the cowboys have.

Geno Smith has been terrible pretty much all year so I have no idea why he is even mentioned....
 

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Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....
Are we supposed to believe that a first year on the team Vikings QB Sam Darnold by himself elevated the team on his own???
 

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Regardless, what would Dallas have done without Dak? They currently have no other replacement. Both Cooper Rush and Trey Lance absolutely suck. You think Jerry would agree to start the 2025 season with a sucky QB? Hell no! He doesn't even have a high enough draft pick in the 1st round to automatically draft a very good rookie franchise QB, so what other option did he have other than to resign Dak?
 

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There were cap implications if he was allowed to walk. It wasn't as easy as paying him his $60 mil this year, and letting him go in 2025. If that were to have happened, we'd have been on the hook for something like $80 mil against the cap.

Jerry forked himself with Dak's last contract. He moved so much money to the back end that he had no choice but to extend him.

Given that situation, I would have let Dak at least play out the season before paying him his money.

Especially considering you had zero interest in saving cap space to sign outside free agents.
 

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The Cowboys are not going to acquire a better quarterback than Dak Prescott anytime soon. All of his detractors here know it. He’s a very good quarterback. Jerry knew it and did what had to be done to retain him.

“What ifs” and “if onlys” are part of the fun of being a fan. Prescott is one of the best players on the Cowboys’ roster. Concocting alternate rosters, though, is a fantasy particularly popular with fans whose team loses more than it wins. The Cowboys have joined that group of teams and brought their fans with them.
GMs "concoct" rosters all the time. Often not much better than educated fans.
 

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There were cap implications if he was allowed to walk. It wasn't as easy as paying him his $60 mil this year, and letting him go in 2025. If that were to have happened, we'd have been on the hook for something like $80 mil against the cap.

Jerry forked himself with Dak's last contract. He moved so much money to the back end that he had no choice but to extend him.

Given that situation, I would have let Dak at least play out the season before paying him his money.
Yeah...except now he's given him an even bigger deal that will go nuclear in a few years after he's restructured every year. Add to the fact that he's a rapidly depreciating asset and this is easily the worst contract in the NFL.
 

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Dallas won't be winning the NFC East for the rest of Daks contract. No more soft teams after the Giants draft Came Ward Dak will be the worst QB in the division. Parsons was already stayed as saying Daniels has "IT". Don't think for a min that the other players on this team don't look up to Parsons and what he says. That comment is meant to say Dak doesn't have it.
 

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There were cap implications if he was allowed to walk. It wasn't as easy as paying him his $60 mil this year, and letting him go in 2025. If that were to have happened, we'd have been on the hook for something like $80 mil against the cap.

Jerry forked himself with Dak's last contract. He moved so much money to the back end that he had no choice but to extend him.

Given that situation, I would have let Dak at least play out the season before paying him his money.

40mil dead in 2025 IIRC before the 5 mil restructure of the 1st extension this offseason.

His current 2025 cap hit is 89mil now after the extension, before any restructuring.

There was going to be a big cap hit regardless in 2025
1. Letting him walk ~40-45mil. Zero to Dak, as it was dead accelerated hits from already paid out SB's.
2. Re-signing him and no restructure 89 mil. 47mil guaranteed to Dak
3. Re-sign and restructure ~52-53mil. (1.x mil base + 9.55mil new prorate signing bonus + 42.14mil existing prorated SB). 47mil guaranteed to Dak.


IIRC Dak wasn't going to holdout week 1. They ended up resetting the QB market, so not like they got "value" out of re-signing him early. And the way the guaranteed salaries work on this extension is that they future year salary gets guaranteed in the current year, so, Dallas will be quickly locked into Dak for the entire contract if they restructure.

Just a dumb Front office, allowed to do what they want since they own the place
 

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I can destroy those lies with facts. Done it many times, but the lies never stop from the same culprits.
:muttley: When the "agenda" overcomes the game itself.........Man, why are you here this is a Cowboy site stay with the "Dak ATTACK" site and bliss is always yours!
Why frustrate yourself here it's pretty evident Dak is a Dog and very few support him these days.
 

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He has a no trade clause, so he can veto any trade. But I’d bet he’d love to go elsewhere and would approve almost any trade. Problem is finding a team that will pick up his huge contract. And Jerry is not going to pay millions for him to play elsewhere.

So a trade would take Jerry Jones to seek it and offset the cost to the team getting him. And what could the Cowboys get for him. The Cowboys are not going to trade Dak Prescott….even if Dak would love to be traded.
No he wouldn't or he wouldn't have a No Trade Clause. He just wants his money whether the Cowboys make the playoffs or not. It makes no difference to him. He's no different than any other player.
 

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Regardless, what would Dallas have done without Dak? They currently have no other replacement. Both Cooper Rush and Trey Lance absolutely suck. You think Jerry would agree to start the 2025 season with a sucky QB? Hell no! He doesn't even have a high enough draft pick in the 1st round to automatically draft a very good rookie franchise QB, so what other option did he have other than to resign Dak?
Trade his #1 for JJ McCarthy or get into the Same Darnold sweepstakes. There are options. It was just stupid to sign Dak.
 

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It only made sense extending Dak if you were going to be aggressive and build around him. Actually going all in and signing him I could understand since we were off three straight 12 win seasons.

Signing him and saying do more with less was always stupid.
Wow, someone who gets it. Rare these days.
 
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Exactly this! ^^^

I would have offered Dak no more than $50 mil/season. Take it or leave.

Instead, Jerry caved to such a ridiculous record overpay. No use continuing to complain about it. Nothing is going to change it. Either accept it or stop following this team or move on to another team. Continued complaining does nothing but make others miserable.
Between Dallas, Giants, Raiders and Tennessee Dak was going to get the 60 million + contract in the offseason. Jerry just doesn’t write checks for fun. He had no choice. I mean if we could have a mulligan in life we all would be sitting pretty. Darnold is playing great but that is the product of their coaching and weapons. JJ McCarthy would be rookie of the year if he did not get injured in my opinion.
 
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Uhh…outside of the regular Dak-lovers on this website, the vast majority of fans here said there was no reason to pay Dak a second major contract and to let him finish out his current one to see what he did this year and then assess whether he was worthy of it. But the vast majority of fans here are also better GMs than JJ, who happens to be just an oil/business man playing football guy as a character and so is one of the worst GMs in the league.
 

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Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....
Dak needs weapons we NEED A receiver that can play.
 
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