Dallas didn't need to re- sign Dak

[DillusionalFans]

Made the playoffs the last four seasons, what happened this year?

So your standard for Dak is making the playoffs — you’d fit in nicely in the front office!!

 

[DillusionalFans]

What makes you think Dak will be a good QB when he comes back. He sucked this year for someone making 60 million. He was 3-5!! Almost never made any plays with his legs to convert 3rd downs. I have seen enough of Dak. He is mediocre at best vs good defenses AND that is NOT good enough for the highest paid player in the league!

Exactly. Rush’s record is better than Dak and Rush had to deal with a lot more players being out than Dak — and Rush is so much cheaper than the Choker!!! Typical Dallas fans thinking we’re good because we beat average to bad teams.

 

[Whirlwin]

So your standard for Dak is making the playoffs — you’d fit in nicely in the front office!!

No, you just made that up in your head. It takes a team once you make the playoffs and we don’t have it. Defense has been holding us back for years.

 

[Whirlwin]

Exactly. Rush’s record is better than Dak and Rush had to deal with a lot more players being out than Dak — and Rush is so much cheaper than the Choker!!! Typical Dallas fans thinking we’re good because we beat average to bad teams.

If you really think he’s better, you better enjoy another sport because you don’t get this one right

 

[Whirlwin]

So your standard for Dak is making the playoffs — you’d fit in nicely in the front office!!

Talk about delusional, lol

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

My only AGENDA is the glory for the STAR and anyone or anything that hinders that has a problem with PAPPY!

You must really hate the defense then, what are your on them?

 

[DillusionalFans]

The Cowboys are not going to acquire a better quarterback than Dak Prescott anytime soon. All of his detractors here know it. He’s a very good quarterback. Jerry knew it and did what had to be done to retain him.

“What ifs” and “if onlys” are part of the fun of being a fan. Prescott is one of the best players on the Cowboys’ roster. Concocting alternate rosters, though, is a fantasy particularly popular with fans whose team loses more than it wins. The Cowboys have joined that group of teams and brought their fans with them.

You are delusional — even Parsons didn’t list Dak in his top QBs (that is until he got pressure to from Jones). Parsons, Lamb, & the rest know that Dak is a choke artist in the big games. I would rather a QB who is a B- who plays his best in the big games than Dak who plays like a A+ against weak teams and a D- against good teams.

 

[DillusionalFans]

Talk about delusional, lol

And your point is ????

 

[Whyjerry]

Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....

It was a huge mistake. Long list of Jerry screw ups. Just think they would be looking at maybe a top 10 pick to grab a replacement. Now the next 4 years are just going to be more disappointing.

 

[Whyjerry]

The Cowboys are not going to acquire a better quarterback than Dak Prescott anytime soon. All of his detractors here know it. He’s a very good quarterback. Jerry knew it and did what had to be done to retain him.

“What ifs” and “if onlys” are part of the fun of being a fan. Prescott is one of the best players on the Cowboys’ roster. Concocting alternate rosters, though, is a fantasy particularly popular with fans whose team loses more than it wins. The Cowboys have joined that group of teams and brought their fans with them.

I respect you and the opinion. I also think Dak is a good QB but they will never win with him. I think his skills are declining and he just flakes in big spots. Plus that contract is going to be an albatross. No way they needed to pay him that. Jerry could have let him test the market and then come in to sign him late. Imagine given this season…Dak would be worth a fraction of that deal. Jerry bid up against no one.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

My only AGENDA is the glory for the STAR and anyone or anything that hinders that has a problem with PAPPY!
Please dont use the words of the DAKSTAINS you converse with and apply them in that fashion to PAPPY.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you......
P.S. You a sneaky one...........what your intentions are hmmm seems you have a PAPPY discredit thing going. It's ok you're small fry for me.

No sir....never a disparaging word. I just happen to know, unlike your special fans , an agenda is not necessarily good or bad. Businesses rely on them.

Everyone here has one, in one form or another. If one dislikes another's....its usually from disagreement not just being wrong.

In other words....I like ya!

 

[PAPPYDOG]

No sir....never a disparaging word. I just happen to know, unlike your special fans , an agenda is not necessarily good or bad. Businesses rely on them.

Everyone here has one, in one form or another. If one dislikes another's....its usually from disagreement not just being wrong.

In other words....I like ya!

This is at least the 4 th time you used my name in a negative light when conversing with your buds the Dakstains.
I have notified you more than once to STOP.
Seems you have a PAPPY itch......for whatever reason that you only know of and feel.
I am indifferent to being liked just here to talk Cowboy football.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This is at least the 4 th time you used my name in a negative light when conversing with your bud the Dakstains.
I have notified you more than once to STOP.
Seems you have a PAPPY itch......for whatever reason that you only know of and feel.
I am indifferent to being liked just here to talk Cowboy football.

I don't consider it negative. And, I will post as I see fit.

If you read it closer, I'm sticking up for you and your rights. If you don't like it, file your complaint, and let the mods do their thing.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I don't consider it negative. And, I will post as I see fit.

If you read it closer, I'm sticking up for you and your rights. If you don't like it, file your complaint, and let the mods do their thing.

At least you're out of the closet now all Non-Dak believers beware there is a double agent amongst us.....

 

[Sydla]

Exactly. Rush’s record is better than Dak and Rush had to deal with a lot more players being out than Dak — and Rush is so much cheaper than the Choker!!! Typical Dallas fans thinking we’re good because we beat average to bad teams.

Rush stinks

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....

oh, no, not this again.

Jerry didn't cave in. Jerry milked the publicity to the last hour (literally). Dak was top 20 in jersey sales last year and 2nd in MVP and that was important to Jerry. popularity matters to him.

and please please please don't mention Darnold. nobody on this board ever said lets sign Darnold, but all of a sudden everyone has a crystal ball and they just say hey "Darnold".... show me one post from anyone this last off season that said we should sign Darnold.

Geno smith was a late bloomer. languished as a back up for years. he sucked as a matter of fact. gets signed by Seattle as a transition QB. has one good year. Literally one good year (not great, just good) and gets a new contract. at the time made him top 10 paid, but quickly went down the list after several others did contracts. he is due for another one.

you can't compare today's contract values, to ones signed 4 or 5 years ago. the market keeps moving up.

now, Goff is paid 53M. couple of others signed after him and got 55M as the contracts tends to just go up. Jerry could have paid Dak about the same, 55 to 56, but he dragged it out. milked the publicity as much as he could and he got what he wanted, the publicity and air time he seeked. 3, 4 M a year extra didn't matter to him.

and most of these other QBs, outside of Burrows and Mahomes, need something. Detroit is got a strong team around Goff , detroit has 6 of the top 5 position contracts on their team. so does Philly with Hurts. Lawrence didn't get the same type of surronding support and the team fell apart. Tua is got same thing around him (except he keeps getting concussions!!).

also, I hate to draft based on need, then you end up with a Taco Charlton as a DE, because you drafted for need. we have a lot of needs, so drafting BPA would serve us well. if we are stocked at the position, then you trade down if you don't want to draft a player higher.if we have needs at DE, DT, RB, Saftey, LB, RB, WR then chances are you end up with a good player in one of those positions.

and Jerry knows the plan. its not winning championships. its maximizing profits and he has succeeded in his plan. we are the most profitable team and the most valued.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Can the cowboys trade Dak ? Or does his contract not allow it ?

why trade him? Jerry is getting all the publicity he seeks and lot sof air time. what could be better for business. what else could bring this level of attention to the cowboys. you don't know jerry.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I respect you and the opinion. I also think Dak is a good QB but they will never win with him. I think his skills are declining and he just flakes in big spots. Plus that contract is going to be an albatross. No way they needed to pay him that. Jerry could have let him test the market and then come in to sign him late. Imagine given this season…Dak would be worth a fraction of that deal. Jerry bid up against no one.

Jerry doesn't care about overpaying. This is the same narcissitic moron who loves to tell us how "most of his best deals he overpaid for."

That's as long as they're "his" guys, of course. Like Zeke. Zeke put him over the barrel with the Cabo holdout, and how does Jerry respond? By giving Zeke an unjustified contract and starting spot that hamstrings the team years later.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Right now the Cowboys will have 10 draft picks and could create $100M in cap space if they wanted too.

That isn't enough to compete in 2025....especially as those draft picks are latter rounds and will need developing and it doesn't much matter how much CAP we have: the number of roster holes, improvements needed, and other teams have as much/more disposable CAP and the allure of a decent chance of winning.
I'm no fan of Dak, but give him 2025 to decide on whether to post June cut in 2026.
Look to 'future building', not the Jerry model of always being relevant. Dak should be judged, not by raw stats (and MVP votes), but whether he can develop a game behind which we can build a successful Offense....if not go cheap/rookie QB from 2026 and build from the trenches outward.

 

[Sydla]

why trade him? Jerry is getting all the publicity he seeks and lot sof air time. what could be better for business. what else could bring this level of attention to the cowboys. you don't know jerry.

From a purely economic perspective, trading him in 2025 is a bitter pill to swallow. Like a $103MM dead money hit and $13MM in additional cap hits to take.

So we are riding Dak in 2025. Now if we had a smart GM, they'd put in place pieces around Dak to try to get the most out of him. That means possibly some more pieces along the OL, another talent at TB to put next to Dowdle, who appears to be a fine backup type TB, and then find a quality vet WR to pair with Lamb.

And this is all doable IF they used the draft AND free agency. But they don't. Because they are dumb.