Dallas has made serious offer to Dez, Waiting for agents

I'm not sweat'n this negation process with Dez's agent. If they can't agree on a number, he will get the franchise tag. Either way. Dez will be a Cowboy for the foreseeable future.

I'm a bit more concerned about keeping Demarco. I fear he deserves more than the Cowboys are budgeting to pay for his position.
 
mrtxstar said:
I'm not sweat'n this negation process with Dez's agent. If they can't agree on a number, he will get the franchise tag. Either way. Dez will be a Cowboy for the foreseeable future.

I'm a bit more concerned about keeping Demarco. I fear he deserves more than the Cowboys are budgeting to pay for his position.
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A fear you might need is that if the Cowboys have to use the tag on Dez, it may hinder their willingness to use cap space to sign Murray.
 
This isn't new information @LatinMind.

Back in late October and early November Dez was offered a long term contract very similar in structure to Tyron Smith's deal. It carried a low guaranteed money number, but as we all know, the Cowboys use those contracts to create cap space which guarantees the amount they need towards the current cap year to the player.

Jerry and Stephen thought they had deal and started to get the paperwork completed, but Bryant responded by firing Eugene Parker.

The ball has always been in Dez's court, the lack of meetings between his agents and the Cowboys since then are concerning. The Cowboys are taking a hardline approach with contracts and they are talking a big game as if they will not overpay. Time will tell if they stick to that approach.

Finally, in Jerry's interview yesterday, he basically said that Dez is 1 of 53 players they have to field a roster around. You can't do it and have a competitive one if that one player is taking too much of the pie. Considering we have a few players already that are taking big chunks as it is, he has to make sure there is enough for all 53 guys including new guys they plan to add. (FA)
 
Saturday on NFLN, at the combine, they were talking to Jason Garrett. I didn't post anything about it, because most of the stuff was general about scouting players.

But at the end, they didn't ask about Dez and the contract negotiations, but I think it was eishan, made a comment about it.
Garrett said Dez is special and hopefully something gets done, but he will be a cowboy for a very long time when it is done...or something to that effect.
 
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endersdragon said:
10 year contract... for a WR... I hope there isn't a whole lot of guaranteed money in the last few years...
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the back end would have no guarantees.
The long contact term allows them to make the total number look gigantic (people will call it 120 deal so loons good for the player. and also give room for several re-works if needed.
But yes, the bottom line is the guarantees.
 
No doubt Dez is getting his contract. What happens between now and when that happens is just gas.
 
AbeBeta said:
I'd go more. Guarantee 3-4 years of salary. So maybe 40 millish
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I think that's getting too rich. Calvin Johnson contract was 27 million guaranteed. I don't consider Dez on same level so I have really hard time justifying more than 10 million more in guarantees plus Dez does have history that should be factored in.
 
Wood said:
I think that's getting too rich. Calvin Johnson contract was 27 million guaranteed. I don't consider Dez on same level so I have really hard time justifying more than 10 million more in guarantees plus Dez does have history that should be factored in.
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Johnson received 49 mill in guaranteed money. He also had one of the old style rookie deals that netted him 55 mill.

Dez had made about 12 mill on his rookie deal by contrast
 
DFWJC said:
The years a

the back end would have no guarantees.
The long contact term allows them to make the total number look gigantic (people will call it 120 deal so loons good for the player. and also give room for several re-works if needed.
But yes, the bottom line is the guarantees.
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If you look at Tyron Smith's contract, the Cowboys guaranteed a tad over $22M.

That would be the 2014 and 2015 salaries and include the $10M signing bonus. After this season, the Cowboys would incur dead money in the amount of $6M if they wanted to cut him.

However, cutting Tyron Smith is not even in their plans unless he were to get hurt and he would be forced out of football all together.

What the Cowboys did is allow themselves to use the contract to provide more cap space in the first few years. If the Cowboys want to use $10M of his $11M base salary to free up cap space they can easily make the move and spread that $10M into the signing bonus of the remaining years of the contract. They can do the same thing the following year as well, and the next year, and all the way to the end of the contract if they like. (obviously it balloons the dead money each time but at some point it won't be worth the money to keep doing it)

The best part of the deal for the player is that they get that money upfront, and it is guaranteed money. So what looked like $22M guaranteed initially keeps rising by the amount they decided to use to free up cap space each time they want to.

Bryant's agents should be aware of that fact, as Dallas is one of the teams in the NFL that "restructures" contracts like clockwork. Eugene Parker almost had a similar deal in place in late October but for whatever reason Bryant fired him and went with Condon and Roc Nation.
 
AbeBeta said:
Johnson received 49 mill in guaranteed money. He also had one of the old style rookie deals that netted him 55 mill.

Dez had made about 12 mill on his rookie deal by contrast
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I any case my biggest concern would be if Dallas gives $40 mill guaranteed to Dez combined with Romo remaining $37 million guaranteed you now have close to $ 80 million guaranteed for just two players one of which has a bad back and the other has history. Risk analyst would be having convulsions looking at that formula.
 
Another fear or obstacle really is losing flexibility for outside FAs. If the franchise tag is 13m that is a big hit to any cap space and they cant structure the contract to save money on that cap. I still think a deal gets done, and hopefully its before the franchise tag is needed so Dallas has more options when FA hits.
 
Bullflop said:
Dez picked a bad time to switch agents, just when a deal seemed on the verge of being struck. If anything or anyone is responsible for these negotiations being bogged down in delay, it appears to rest largely on Dez's decision to make such an untimely switch. It takes patience and good faith to reach a contract fair to both sides. Seems to me if Dez was so committed to being a team guy, he wouldn't get so carried away with the personal issues he's been constantly complaining about. Business is business and personal issues don't belong there. If he's such a team guy, he best try to recognize the bind his team is in to resign its many standup FA players.
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If a deal was about to get done and Dez switched agents....shows you how close to getting done it actually was.
 
RingOfHonor88 said:
Another fear or obstacle really is losing flexibility for outside FAs. If the franchise tag is 13m that is a big hit to any cap space and they cant structure the contract to save money on that cap. I still think a deal gets done, and hopefully its before the franchise tag is needed so Dallas has more options when FA hits.
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This. You have a 3 year window. Max. If you have to pay an extra million...well sometimes that's not the end of the world.

There are worse things in the NFL than giving a young talent an extra 7 million (total) over 7-10 years.
 
Wood said:
I any case my biggest concern would be if Dallas gives $40 mill guaranteed to Dez combined with Romo remaining $37 million guaranteed you now have close to $ 80 million guaranteed for just two players one of which has a bad back and the other has history. Risk analyst would be having convulsions looking at that formula.
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A history that has never resulted in anything that caused him to miss a game in Dez's case. Of course we could just tag him ... And if he played out the season under the tag, that 13 mill guaranteed plus whatever he gets long term the next year (and likely substantially less cap space for 2015).
 
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