Dallas has no weapons - Baldinger

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We have a game plan for every game. Someone gets hurt we don't know or have plans for adjustments to the game plan so we go crazy
 

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And Pollard was a surprise. Pretty sure Dallas didn't have him pencilled in for 1k yards and a pro bowl selection when he was burried behind Zeke. So, in reality, the actual plan was for CD, Gallup, and the rookie 3rd round pick to carry the passing game. But lack of weapons after Pollard got hurt wasn't the problem on sunday. Those 2 INTs that Dak threw were the difference in the game.
 

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I get it. If people complain about the players around Dak, others will assume they are giving Dak a free pass.

But both things are true: We lost the game because Dak played terribly and our offense lacks talent to truly threaten a good defense.
Maybe but again we lost by a TD.

If Dak plays better, we win even with the talent or lack thereof people think we have.
 

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I am surprised it took until Wednesday for the Dak crowd to start blaming the WRs for Dak's two dreadful interceptions.
 

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He’s not top 10 - he had a very very good year .
He won me over .
We still need a bigtime play maker .
You say hes not top 10 but refrain from naming 10 better when asked.

Lamb is a 1. End of story.

What makes you say/think he's not?

Also, I would absolutely keep steele over tyron if that was the choice.

I agree that we need more weapons on offense and everyone saw/knew it thats why since the trade deadline we were looking for cooks/obj/hilton/ect

Maybe Tolbert can prove he can be wr5 for us next season.
 

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You don't think he would have played better with last year's WR core?
Good question. The honest answer... I don't know. That's the problem with Dak. He can play lights out one week, then play like he's in Pop Warner the next, regardless of the competition. Dak is utterly inconsistent for some reason, and that's unacceptable for a 7 year vet. The biggest question I have is this... Would the Cowboys be better off with a less talented, more consistent, and cheaper QB, If it meant they could place a more solid team around that QB? I believe they would be. When Dak is good, he's good. But, when he's bad, he's horribly bad. No team can win a SB with that kind of play from their QB.
 

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You don't think he would have played better with last year's WR core?
I think he could have played better but I think this glosses over the fact Dak did a lot of dumb things this year with the football that had nothing to do with who was playing WR.

The reality is the Dak fans are desperately trying to figure out how to shift responsibility away from him. So we blame the WRs and the OL and Moore and McCarthy and just about everyone else. But what you rarely ever see them say is that the issues with QB play also rest, in part, on Dak. It's almost always, Dak would be great if this and that happened. Or we had this player. Or that player did this. At what point do we start to look at the QB to see if the problems also don't rest with him?
 

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Good question. The honest answer... I don't know. That's the problem with Dak. He can play lights out one week, then play like he's in Pop Warner the next, regardless of the competition. Dak is utterly inconsistent for some reason, and that's unacceptable for a 7 year vet. The biggest question I have is this... Would the Cowboys be better off with a less talented, more consistent, and cheaper QB, If it meant they could place a more solid team around that QB? I believe they would be. When Dak is good, he's good. But, when he's bad, he's horribly bad. No team can win a SB with that kind of play from their QB.
Spot on.

When he plays great, are the weapons suddenly better? So when he blew through Philly's defense, which is pretty highly rated statistically, were the weapons good? Or was that all Dak elevating those around him?

When he looks bad, did the talent suddenly just suck again? How can one praise Dak for making everyone better when he looks great against Philly but then suddenly we shouldn't have that expectation when he's playing Washington? Or San Fran? Or Tennessee (when he was pretty mediocre)? Or Houston (when he again was pretty mediocre). There's no consistency in Dak and frankly, not much consistency in the arguments the Dak crowd makes for him.
 

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In my opinion, Jerry sabotaged Mike McCarthy at least he thought he did by trading away Amari Cooper and not resigning key free agents and he left his team barren with decent cap space for Sean Payton.

Instead McCarthy coached his *** off and almost got us to the NFC title game vs a tremendous San Francisco football team.

If you wanna get rid of Cooper fine, but you’ve got to bring in an ace replacement.
Coaches don't count against the cap...or do you mean left space for Payton to use? Doesn't matter, he's not coming here, and I don't understand why so many are so gaga for him.
 

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Spot on.

When he plays great, are the weapons suddenly better? So when he blew through Philly's defense, which is pretty highly rated statistically, were the weapons good? Or was that all Dak elevating those around him?

When he looks bad, did the talent suddenly just suck again? How can one praise Dak for making everyone better when he looks great against Philly but then suddenly we shouldn't have that expectation when he's playing Washington? Or San Fran? Or Tennessee (when he was pretty mediocre)? Or Houston (when he again was pretty mediocre). There's no consistency in Dak and frankly, not much consistency in the arguments the Dak crowd makes for him.
Oh, there's plenty of consistency in their arguments for him. They always call you a hater, if you criticize him. Or sometimes they bring up the "What about so and so QB, look what he did!", which is almost always completely irrelevant.
 

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To a point yes. I agree with most he said. Not sure about the defense but hopefully we get someone good as DC. The OC needs to go for no other reason than he did not do the job well enough. I said this before, we can win with Dak and can definitely get farther but getting a better number 2 would help greatly. With TY and Gallup messing around for 3rd and Brown for 4th. Love our TEs. Dak needs to get on page with his receivers and the next OC because it was not this year. Too much confusion
Maybe the receivers need to get on page with Dak...Gallup runs slow, sloppy routes..CD still does also...Brown is playing volleyball...Schultz is the only one that runs good routes..
 

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And Pollard was a surprise. Pretty sure Dallas didn't have him pencilled in for 1k yards and a pro bowl selection when he was burried behind Zeke. So, in reality, the actual plan was for CD, Gallup, and the rookie 3rd round pick to carry the passing game. But lack of weapons after Pollard got hurt wasn't the problem on sunday. Those 2 INTs that Dak threw were the difference in the game.
Pollard leaving the game was very much a problem. I'm not sure how anyone could arrive at the idea that we were "ok without Pollard."
1,000 is like 60 yards a game. It doesn't mean what it used to.
And to your point, Lamb was the only consistent receiving threat all season. Literally everyone else was miles behind his production which didn't even pick up until Dak returned from injury.
Suggesting that Elliott would be enough against playoff defenses is about the most short minded decision the front office has made with regard to the roster next to the WR depth.
Gallup, Brown & Tolbert didn't care a damn thing.
 

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I think he could have played better but I think this glosses over the fact Dak did a lot of dumb things this year with the football that had nothing to do with who was playing WR.

The reality is the Dak fans are desperately trying to figure out how to shift responsibility away from him. So we blame the WRs and the OL and Moore and McCarthy and just about everyone else. But what you rarely ever see them say is that the issues with QB play also rest, in part, on Dak. It's almost always, Dak would be great if this and that happened. Or we had this player. Or that player did this. At what point do we start to look at the QB to see if the problems also don't rest with him?
There’s a middle ground for rational fans. Dak had good games and bad games this year.

You can still evaluate the roster as a whole and what will make us better without blaming the QB or defending the QB no matter what.

I don’t understand why is has to be so extreme on here for most fans one side or the other.
 

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He threw a dropped pick-6 on the first play of our 2nd to last drive. A horrible throw.
Yes, true. No one is saying Dak didn't make bad plays out there. The question is why? Both Brian Baldinger and Kurt Warner gave their professional opinions based on video analysis as to why.
 

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Maybe but again we lost by a TD.

If Dak plays better, we win even with the talent or lack thereof people think we have.
Definitely. But is that sustainable for the team? Be content with bums at WR because we'll pin all our hopes on Dak not flopping? The point is, both of these things are true and improving the talent in the team can help minimize the reliance on Dak to not suck. We're trying to win the super bowl, and we never will with the likes of Noah Brown and washed up Gallup and Hilton being key players. You could argue the same for Dak, but like Jerry at GM, we've made our bed and are stuck with him. His presence isn't changing so let's minimize how important he is
 

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Yes, true. No one is saying Dak didn't make bad plays out there. The question is why? Both Brian Baldinger and Kurt Warner gave their professional opinions based on video analysis as to why.
They both laid blame on Dak too. Their analysis didn't paint Dak as some victim here where everyone let Dak down while he was just good out there.
 
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