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When the Miami Dolphins get together for a mandatory minicamp on Friday in Florida, defensive end Jason Taylor will have a big decision to make. As will the team.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network lays out the situation perfectly.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsess...0d5d8089542b&template=with-video&confirm=true

"Dallas –- Of all the potential landing spots, none is more intriguing than Dallas. It is a longshot, granted, but Cowboys owner Jerry Jones never can be ruled out. The Cowboys have debated the merits of trading for Taylor and they already hold additional draft picks in 2009 -– Cleveland’s in the third round, Detroit’s in the fourth. Dallas could decide to package picks and/or a disgruntled player such as defensive end Greg Ellis or safety Roy Williams that former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells knows well. Dallas knows its loaded at defensive end now with Ellis, DeMarcus Ware and last year’s first-round pick, Anthony Spencer. But Cowboys owner Jerry Jones never bypasses big-name, talented players such as Taylor. He has thought about the possibility of Taylor in Dallas and, despite the long odds, could wind up taking action."

For Taylor, he needs to decide whether to show up for the mandatory session. Skipping it would subject him to a daily fine of $8,638, and possibly to an effort to recover any signing bonus money that might apply to the last two years of his contract, depending on the specific language of the deal regarding bonus forfeitures.

If Taylor opt to report, the team would then have to decide whether to allow him to participate — and risk owing Taylor his entire $8 million base salary if an ACL tears or an Achilles’ tendon ruptures.

Of course, the CBA already has been interpreted to prohibit a team from refusing to allow a guy to work out. So then the question becomes whether the team can restrict Taylor’s activities to limit injury, as the team apparently did last year with qb Daunte Culpepper.

Schefter also lists five teams that have shown “varying degrees of interest” in Taylor during the offseason — the Saints, Eagles, Buccaneers, Cowboys, and Chargers.

In our view, Taylor’s next team (if indeed there is a next team) must fit within his obvious strategic plan to become a star on the silver screen, meaning that Taylor’s next team must already have a high profile (e.g., the Cowboys) or be in a position to acquire one by playing into February.

We think that Taylor should call the team’s bluff and show up for the mandatory minicamp. Given coach Tony Sparano recently declared to the world that Taylor won’t be there, it would make for great theater — possibly greater theater than anything that this oversized Yul Brynner will ever give us at the cineplex.
 

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My sources tell me Taylor will not be coming to Dallas.
 

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Where would Taylor play?

Who would we really give up to get him?

Saying Ellis sounds ridiculous. Why trade a player who got almost 13 sacks for his paltry cap cost for one who will certainly cost a great deal more and may not even give the same results in our scheme? Which is not the same scheme Miami runs.
 

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PACMAN DECISION COMING?

There was an Internet report (man, I hate those things) that Cowboys cornerback Pacman Jones would be reinstated on Thursday afternoon.

But Thursday afternoon came and went, and there was no reinstatement.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the decision could come “any day,” and that it possibly will be announced during the week of June 2.

The Cowboys reportedly are optimistic. We’re still not so sure, and we can think of three different things that could prevent Pacman from being reinstated.

1. Jones has pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge in Las Vegas and a felony charge in Florida since his suspension was first imposed in April 2007. Under the league’s Personal Conduct Policy, those no contest pleas could require fresh discipline.

2. If Jones wasn’t truthful with Commissioner Roger Goodell in 2007 regarding the “accidental hitman” story, Goodell could impose new discipline.

3. If Goodell asked Jones when they met on or around May 20 whether any other potential legal issues were pending, and if Jones denied it, the fact that authorities in Las Vegas were pursuing the payment of $20,000 in gambling markers could result in new discipline.

So we think that Pacman’s ability to play all of the 2008 season remains a coin flip proposition, at best.
 

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jobberone;2100447 said:
Where would Taylor play?

Who would we really give up to get him?

Saying Ellis sounds ridiculous. Why trade a player who got almost 13 sacks for his paltry cap cost for one who will certainly cost a great deal more and may not even give the same results in our scheme? Which is not the same scheme Miami runs.

:bow: ...............
 

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PACMAN DECISION COMING?

There was an Internet report (man, I hate those things) that Cowboys cornerback Pacman Jones would be reinstated on Thursday afternoon.

But Thursday afternoon came and went, and there was no reinstatement.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the decision could come “any day,” and that it possibly will be announced during the week of June 2.

The Cowboys reportedly are optimistic. We’re still not so sure, and we can think of three different things that could prevent Pacman from being reinstated.

1. Jones has pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge in Las Vegas and a felony charge in Florida since his suspension was first imposed in April 2007. Under the league’s Personal Conduct Policy, those no contest pleas could require fresh discipline.

2. If Jones wasn’t truthful with Commissioner Roger Goodell in 2007 regarding the “accidental hitman” story, Goodell could impose new discipline.

3. If Goodell asked Jones when they met on or around May 20 whether any other potential legal issues were pending, and if Jones denied it, the fact that authorities in Las Vegas were pursuing the payment of $20,000 in gambling markers could result in new discipline.

So we think that Pacman’s ability to play all of the 2008 season remains a coin flip proposition, at best.


Not only are the Cowboys hoping that he is reinstated with no further suspension, but the Titans probably are also if it is true that they would have to give the Cowboys a pick next year if Jones is suspended anytime during the 2008 season.

Then again, the Cowboys could be thinking that they have enough at the CB position that they wouldn't mind if Jones is suspended for the first game or two. That way, they could probably get a fourth or fifth back from the Titans.
 

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jobberone;2100447 said:
Where would Taylor play?

Who would we really give up to get him?

Saying Ellis sounds ridiculous. Why trade a player who got almost 13 sacks for his paltry cap cost for one who will certainly cost a great deal more and may not even give the same results in our scheme? Which is not the same scheme Miami runs.

I think the deal would have to involve Ellis and a restructure/paycut on the part of Taylor.

If all parties were agreeable I would do the deal as I think Taylor would give us a truly dominant defense and put us as the clear favourites for the SB.

The other thing I like about Taylor is he is an infamous Patriots killer.
 

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Eskimo;2100461 said:
I think the deal would have to involve Ellis and a restructure/paycut on the part of Taylor.

If all parties were agreeable I would do the deal as I think Taylor would give us a truly dominant defense and put us as the clear favourites for the SB.

The other thing I like about Taylor is he is an infamous Patriots killer.

I agree.

Taylor would have to be willing to rework his deal some to enable the Cowboys to acquire him.

I would think that both he and Ellis have about two productive years left.

The key would be Parcells' feelings about Ellis.

He has to remember Ellis' gripes when he was here, would he want to deal with that again?

One other advantage the Cowboys have is that Taylor would be reunited with Zach Thomas again. That might play a part in his decision-making as well.
 

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Eskimo;2100461 said:
I think the deal would have to involve Ellis and a restructure/paycut on the part of Taylor.

If all parties were agreeable I would do the deal as I think Taylor would give us a truly dominant defense and put us as the clear favourites for the SB.

The other thing I like about Taylor is he is an infamous Patriots killer.

I can't say that getting Taylor isn't thought provoking but I don't know if he's an upgrade over Ellis. Despite Ellis being a pain in the offseason about this time of year, he never causes problems and produces on the field more than any other defensive player except for Ware. I'm not certain why Ellis is so under appreciated but all the guy does every year is produce more than his doubters and critics rail about.

Ellis is a very valuable player on this team. Not having him on the field should remind everyone what happened the year before last. Compare last year with the year before. The team really went downhill when Ellis went down. I hate the 13-3 mantra but.......
 

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jobberone;2100477 said:
I can't say that getting Taylor isn't thought provoking but I don't know if he's an upgrade over Ellis. Despite Ellis being a pain in the offseason about this time of year, he never causes problems and produces on the field more than any other defensive player except for Ware. I'm not certain why Ellis is so under appreciated but all the guy does every year is produce more than his doubters and critics rail about.

Ellis is a very valuable player on this team. Not having him on the field should remind everyone what happened the year before last. Compare last year with the year before. The team really went downhill when Ellis went down. I hate the 13-3 mantra but.......

Taylor is an All-Pro caliber player who is just one year removed from DPOTY. Eliis is a steady player who benefits from playing across from Ware. They are really not in the same league, IMO.
 

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What would we get from Taylor that we're not presently getting from Ellis? Better dancing? They're both roughly the same age, playing the same position, with equally bad attitudes. So why bother?
 

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jobberone;2100477 said:
I can't say that getting Taylor isn't thought provoking but I don't know if he's an upgrade over Ellis. Despite Ellis being a pain in the offseason about this time of year, he never causes problems and produces on the field more than any other defensive player except for Ware. I'm not certain why Ellis is so under appreciated but all the guy does every year is produce more than his doubters and critics rail about.

Ellis is a very valuable player on this team. Not having him on the field should remind everyone what happened the year before last. Compare last year with the year before. The team really went downhill when Ellis went down. I hate the 13-3 mantra but.......

If Ellis wasn't such a snitzel of late, I don't think this would garner as much interest as it has...............if Ellis played ALL of last year, he could very well have lead the team in sacks.................if it ain't broke, it doesn't need fixing.... especially if it's gonna cost us $, which it definitely would....
 

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Eskimo;2100480 said:
Taylor is an All-Pro caliber player who is just one year removed from DPOTY. Eliis is a steady player who benefits from playing across from Ware. They are really not in the same league, IMO.

And Ellis is the steadiest player on the team for the last decade. Your statement is definitely the rumor. I'm just not so sure that Taylor is going to add that much other than cap burden if we swapped him for Ellis. People need to give Ellis his due.

Sarge;2100483 said:
If Ellis wasn't such a snitzel of late, I don't think this would garner as much interest as it has...............if Ellis played ALL of last year, he could very well have lead the team in sacks.................if it ain't broke, it doesn't need fixing.... especially if it's gonna cost us $, which it definitely would....

You and I think a lot alike most of the time. You are a great man, Sarge. :)
 

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jswalker1981;2100491 said:
Which sources are you talking about? Common sense or Logic?

...well....that too....
 

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bbgun;2100482 said:
What would we get from Taylor that we're not presently getting from Ellis? Better dancing? They're both roughly the same age, playing the same position, with equally bad attitudes. So why bother?

Taylor is a much better player.
 

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pass. it's time to unleash spencer, not bury him on the depth chart.
 
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