Dallas Mavs Playoff thread

[TellerMorrow34]

LOL! I'm loving the Lakers being down 3-0. This is WONDERFUL!

 

[baj1dallas]

i still stand by my statement, the lakers top 7 guys are better than the mavs top 7 guys, plus bynum is still destroying you guys. what i didnt see happening was gasol regressing to a huge pansie and the mavs actually able to use a large rotation during the playoffs. usually you have to shorten your rotation in the playoffs but the mavs have been able to use their depth in the playoffs just as they would in the regular season.

Kidd > Fisher
Stevenson << Bryant
Marion > Artest
Dirk > Gasol
Chandler < Bynum

Jet > Brown
Haywood < Odom
Barea > Blake
Stojakavic > Nobody

Bynum is playing well but he isn't "destroying" the Mavs obviously, or they wouldn't be up 3-0

 

[BIGDen]

LOL! I'm loving the Lakers being down 3-0. This is WONDERFUL!

Can't stand the Lakers. This is nice to see. Just one more Mavs!

 

[MC KAos]

Perhaps if all players were in their prime, but as of right now this is simply not true. Fisher is done and is more useful as moral support than as a player at this point, Artest and Odom are shells of their former selves, Kobe is entering the late jump-shooting stage of his career and doesnt have the same quickness he used to, Pau has been declining since early this season, and Steve Blake wouldnt even make the Mavericks roster. Matt Barnes is a clown who is more concerned with his rep than playing basketball and Shannon Brown is a nice little bench player who thinks he is an all-star and takes a ton of ill-advised shots. Bynum is playing very well, but he just doesnt have the skill set to take over a series by himself.

Meanwhile, Dirk is at the absolute height of his game, Terry and Chandler are playing as well as they ever have, Barea has developed into a fine little player who knows his role and has outplayed both Fisher and Blake, and Peja has apparently found the fountain of youth in Dallas. Jason Kidd is old and not what he once was but is still by far the best point guard between the two teams. Marion is, well, not close to what he once was but is about on par with Artest.

Through three games Dallas has three of the four best players in this series, and none of them are named Kobe Bryant.

i think you are right, i was thinking they would be as good as last year individually, but obviously they havent been. its crazy how fast players age in the NBA

Kidd > Fisher
Stevenson << Bryant
Marion > Artest
Dirk > Gasol
Chandler < Bynum

Jet > Brown
Haywood < Odom
Barea > Blake
Stojakavic > Nobody

Bynum is playing well but he isn't "destroying" the Mavs obviously, or they wouldn't be up 3-0

while i agree for the most part with your roster breakdown, your last sentence is completely false. in 05, amare was averaging 35+ points a game vs the spurs and they were down 0-3 anyway. he is dominating the mavs, but dirk is dominating gasol and the rest of the matchups have mostly gone to the mavs

 

[danielofthesaints]

while i agree for the most part with your roster breakdown, your last sentence is completely false. in 05, amare was averaging 35+ points a game vs the spurs and they were down 0-3 anyway. he is dominating the mavs, but dirk is dominating gasol and the rest of the matchups have mostly gone to the mavs

Ehh. Your comparison of the dominance of Amare to Bynum is quite misleading. Bynum has only averaged 15.7 pts and 9.3 rbs per game for the last 3 games. Those numbers are by no means "destructive", especially to the 35+ pt comparison of Amare. They are just solid numbers for a starting center in the playoffs.

 

[baj1dallas]

i think you are right, i was thinking they would be as good as last year individually, but obviously they havent been. its crazy how fast players age in the NBA



while i agree for the most part with your roster breakdown, your last sentence is completely false. in 05, amare was averaging 35+ points a game vs the spurs and they were down 0-3 anyway. he is dominating the mavs, but dirk is dominating gasol and the rest of the matchups have mostly gone to the mavs

I think you misunderstood me a little. If Bynum was destroying the Mavs the series would be closer. But he's done almost nothing in the fourth quarter. He's playing well, but not dominant - a la Dirk.

 

[MC KAos]

Ehh. Your comparison of the dominance of Amare to Bynum is quite misleading. Bynum has only averaged 15.7 pts and 9.3 rbs per game for the last 3 games. Those numbers are by no means "destructive", especially to the 35+ pt comparison of Amare. They are just solid numbers for a starting center in the playoffs.

I think you misunderstood me a little. If Bynum was destroying the Mavs the series would be closer. But he's done almost nothing in the fourth quarter. He's playing well, but not dominant - a la Dirk.

all good points, i just wonder what more advanced numbers for bynum are though, it seems like he doesnt get the ball enough. when he does get it, he has been very effective! i just hope they can finish them off tomorrow, they cant give the lakers any hope. Id go to dirk early and often

 

[YosemiteSam]

Parcellism. You are what your record says you are. In the Lakers vs the Mavs case as of right now. The Lakers are 0-3. To argue any point that the Lakers are better than the Mavs is pointless. You've already lost. (thus far)

That can change going forward, but as that is extremely unlikely considering no team has ever comeback for an 0-3 deficit in the entire history of the NBA. (well over 60+ years)

...of course, records and history are made to be broken...

 

[Mrdude108]

I hope we can get it done Sunday and wrap the series up with a nice sweep then hopefully, hopefully OKC and Memphis goes 7 so Kidd can get nice and rested, along with everyone else and go after it in the conference finals. Kidd RESPONDS to rest, its insane. We sat him most of the last week of the season and he went beast mode against the blazers.

Side note, I know Caron Butler said he could return in the playoffs then they rules him for Portland and he almost got cleared for LA until getting ruled out so has anyone heard of a conference finals return? I think its doubtful, and even if he did he might take a while to get back to form regardless.

 

[danielofthesaints]

When it rains, it pours. THREEEEE!

 

[peplaw06]

Up by 18 halfway through the 2nd qtr. Run it up boys! Leave no doubt!!

 

[peplaw06]

Side note, I know Caron Butler said he could return in the playoffs then they rules him for Portland and he almost got cleared for LA until getting ruled out so has anyone heard of a conference finals return? I think its doubtful, and even if he did he might take a while to get back to form regardless.

I saw on the ESPN ticker yesterday I think it was, that they've said he's not coming back.

 

[The30YardSlant]

If/When this game truly gets out of hand Jackson has a responsibility to get Artest out of the game. Ron has that crazy look in his eyes and is just looking for a reason to kill somebody.

 

[MC KAos]

This is unbelievable! Hopefully the hot shooting continues!! Dirk hasnt done much and that's a great sign!

 

[The30YardSlant]

I just want this second half to get over with quickly and without any injuries. The Lakers are a very proud team and I would not be shocked if Dallas is on the receiving end of a few cheap shots, especially from Artest and Barnes.

 

[Ren]

Keep it up in the 2nd half!

I'm still not feeling comfortable, with the Mavs you wait for the whistle to celebrate

 

[peplaw06]

If/When this game truly gets out of hand Jackson has a responsibility to get Artest out of the game. Ron has that crazy look in his eyes and is just looking for a reason to kill somebody.

I just want this second half to get over with quickly and without any injuries. The Lakers are a very proud team and I would not be shocked if Dallas is on the receiving end of a few cheap shots, especially from Artest and Barnes.

Good points... and with the recent history between these two teams I won't be surprised if it happens. But I don't think Phil will take anyone out until pretty late if it's still a 20 point game. He's retiring and he's traded barbs with Cuban. I could just see him washing his hands of whatever happened, if something did.

 

[DIAF]

I just wanted to say


LOL

 

[MC KAos]

Ya I would have a nice warm seat for dirk for the 4th, right where Brian cardinal is, let him muck it up with artest. Hell I would sit peja, Kidd, Terry and barea too

 

[jimmy40]

I just want this second half to get over with quickly and without any injuries. The Lakers are a very proud team and I would not be shocked if Dallas is on the receiving end of a few cheap shots, especially from Artest and Barnes.

it will be a Kobe elbow to Berrera sp? head