Dallas needs better QB play

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Without a good QB a team can't compete or expect to win. Right now, Dallas doesn't have that. Dallas can't keep throwing multiple INTs per game.
But a QB can get you so far without an OL a decent running game and a defense that actually makes stops against better teams.

Even mahomes struggled when his OL couldn't protect him and he is a generational talent. People were drooling (literally) over Purdy and without running game and his receivers diminishing he has struggled.

Do we need and want good QB play? Absolutely

But greatest QBs will struggle as evident when there are holes everywhere
 

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This team is a JOKE a /DAK PRESCOTT Joke.
Every team dares him to have him beat them and he fails miserably unless it's a dog team with a sub-500 record.
Dude is one of many Jerry clown boys and the biggest clowns are the fans who think that Dak will ever take this team to an NFCCG or SB.
Keep making excuses for him knock yourselves out baby as the laughter you provide is simply priceless!
Pity old demented Jerry as with that extension he gave him he guaranteed he's going to the man in the sky without another ring on his fat drunken fingers!

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO................................Down the Toilet rim yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

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I think the players need to publicly say what they think, the play calls, the scheming sucks, what are they going to do what is this coaching staff going to do if the players mutiny, they been neutered w/ 1 year deals , no real power, high paid contracts, , they can't do anything!!



I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end, I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play bad, that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball!!



I think Prescott, I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!! NOPE!!



What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??





I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..



I don't get this fan base at all,



I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.



How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??



I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...



I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…



I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..





But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!



I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..



Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!



I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!
Coach Landy RIP "I call a great game plan, it's the players that mess it up".
 

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Coach Landy RIP "I call a great game plan, it's the players that mess it up".
huh? sounds like a ego issue with Landry. Maybe doesn't realize the truth lies in between. not sure how that matters but i could tell you this , jerry jones has three super bowl titles landry has 2/.and?/
 

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Good to above good offensive linemen?!? What?!? He generally had trash OLs until they started to rebuild it in 2011 with drafting Tyron, but their interior OL was trash in 2011 and 2012 and then they drafted Frederick in 2013 and Martin in 2014. Romo finally had a VERY solid OL in 2014 and you saw the results. Injury in 2015 and then Dak was handed a Mercedes in 2016.
What result did we see in 2014 that is diferent than Daks years with a good run game? great reg season and bow out in the playoffs?..again i like Romo but he nor Dak NOR ANY QB can play good enough to overcome the GM's team building problems..either you can admit it or your just picking a side becaue it feels better to you...no logic or facts back either one because they are the same....
 

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But a QB can get you so far without an OL a decent running game and a defense that actually makes stops against better teams.

Even mahomes struggled when his OL couldn't protect him and he is a generational talent. People were drooling (literally) over Purdy and without running game and his receivers diminishing he has struggled.

Do we need and want good QB play? Absolutely

But greatest QBs will struggle as evident when there are holes everywhere
Last time I checked the "struggling QB" at SF without his star RB and 1/2 WRs beat the Cowboys and are .500

True, all QBs will struggle without their star players, no other QB makes $60M a year and in the example above, the struggling QB has his team .500 while Dak has it 3-4. If you can't carry the Team do not demand elite money.

If Dak had kept his salary on or below $50M it would've had put the spotlight solely on the Jones while still making generational money for 4 more years, but by demanding to be the highest paid player in NFL history he directed the spotlight to himself and only a small % of NFL fans and followers remember the Jones had enough $ left to contract 1 or 2 good free agents this season, free agents who could eventually prove still be not enough to pull this team out of the stall (currently a 3-4 hole) but at least they could say they tried.

So, this whole fiasco is squarely on Dak and the Jones, both are a disgrace to this franchise.
 

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Prescott, while probably not worth the value of his current contract, is a serviceable QB. But until the Cowboys can cobble a competent offensive line capable of offering him a modicum of protection Dak is gonna look downright bad. The problems are compounded by the team’s lack of a running threat.

In short, it’s gonna be a disappointing season for Cowboys fans. So buckle up and brace for impact on gameday. We’re headed for another crash.
 

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Last time I checked the "struggling QB" at SF without his star RB and 1/2 WRs beat the Cowboys and are .500

True, all QBs will struggle without their star players, no other QB makes $60M a year and in the example above, the struggling QB has his team .500 while Dak has it 3-4. If you can't carry the Team do not demand elite money.

If Dak had kept his salary on or below $50M it would've had put the spotlight solely on the Jones while still making generational money for 4 more years, but by demanding to be the highest paid player in NFL history he directed the spotlight to himself and only a small % of NFL fans and followers remember the Jones had enough $ left to contract 1 or 2 good free agents this season, free agents who could eventually prove still be not enough to pull this team out of the stall (currently a 3-4 hole) but at least they could say they tried.

So, this whole fiasco is squarely on Dak and the Jones, both are a disgrace to this franchise.
so you compare two struggling QBs and declare victory!!!

and it sounds like you putting wins as a QB stat? did I read and understand correctly?

and the salary argument. but if you weren't lazy and did a little research or read some of my posts, you would know we have 23M in cap space....meaning we could have very easily paid 3M extra and signed henry, but instead Jerry said he wants to see what Zeke can do.....

and thus there is the root cause of it all. jerry refusing to spend money in FA. we have 7th most cap space, despite the 60M contract. we are 30th in dead cap space, meaning we don't cut players until end of their contracts and we are 16th in cash spend and that's after the CD and Dak contracts...

and the whole fiasco has been on Jerry for 30 years....Dak has been part of it for 9 years. prior to that, 21 years....was that because of Dak?
 

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so you compare two struggling QBs and declare victory!!!

and it sounds like you putting wins as a QB stat? did I read and understand correctly?

and the salary argument. but if you weren't lazy and did a little research or read some of my posts, you would know we have 23M in cap space....meaning we could have very easily paid 3M extra and signed henry, but instead Jerry said he wants to see what Zeke can do.....

and thus there is the root cause of it all. jerry refusing to spend money in FA. we have 7th most cap space, despite the 60M contract. we are 30th in dead cap space, meaning we don't cut players until end of their contracts and we are 16th in cash spend and that's after the CD and Dak contracts...

and the whole fiasco has been on Jerry for 30 years....Dak has been part of it for 9 years. prior to that, 21 years....was that because of Dak?
Am I the lazy? if you could only read my post completely you wouldn't be typing the same thing I posted.


If Dak had kept his salary on or below $50M it would've had put the spotlight solely on the Jones while still making generational money for 4 more years, but by demanding to be the highest paid player in NFL history he directed the spotlight to himself and only a small % of NFL fans and followers remember the Jones had enough $ left to contract 1 or 2 good free agents this season, free agents who could eventually prove still be not enough to pull this team out of the stall (currently a 3-4 hole) but at least they could say they tried.

So, this whole fiasco is squarely on Dak and the Jones, both are a disgrace to this franchise.
Who said the last 30 years are Dak's fault? We all know Dak has been part of the fiasco "only" the last 9 years (phew...relief).

Look I get it, you are in love with Dak and would type anything to defend his poor play and overrated status, I would just appreciate it if you put some effort into reading and comprehension.
 

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Without a good QB a team can't compete or expect to win. Right now, Dallas doesn't have that. Dallas can't keep throwing multiple INTs per game.
Correct. Dak was the same at Miss State. Panicked in big games. Can’t seem to play well against top defenses. He looks scared
 

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Am I the lazy? if you could only read my post completely you wouldn't be typing the same thing I posted.



Who said the last 30 years are Dak's fault? We all know Dak has been part of the fiasco "only" the last 9 years (phew...relief).

Look I get it, you are in love with Dak and would type anything to defend his poor play and overrated status, I would just appreciate it if you put some effort into reading and comprehension.
I read your post. it was a lazy response.
 

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Dak surely has his faults but in truth, the Cowboys' FO and coaching staff aren't up to what they should be. Any QB needs to be blessed with a decent FO and running game to operate as effectively as he otherwise might. Unfortunately, Dak doesn't have either of those to his advantage. In the past, he has been somewhat better than he is at present. I haven't lost hope that his surroundings can be improved upon. The question is, will they?
 
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The qb can't run or escape.
That QB was paid to do more with less Jerry said as much. Jerry’s getting a poor ROI , folks complaining about OL yet lot’s were praising the change and one guy called the OL road graders, some smart folks said it was a disaster waiting to happen playing 2 rookies one with 14 college starts and 1 at LT and a center who never played the position. WR and RB were supposed to be elevated by the QB play. Toss in a HC who is a better slug living on a SB won by a generational QB talent who told folks MM was the dumbest coach he was ever around and MM was run out of GB for being a sloth lazy uninspired HC. All these problems were voiced before the season started but “Mr football” Jerry told everyone that the team was championship contenders and Dak was elite so once again Jerry gets a F and is the most incompetent GM in football. Highest paid QB in NFL history 34 million WR and look at what he got a diva and a I got paid QB Who thinks he’s a legend
 

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That QB was paid to do more with less Jerry said as much. Jerry’s getting a poor ROI , folks complaining about OL yet lot’s were praising the change and one guy called the OL road graders, some smart folks said it was a disaster waiting to happen playing 2 rookies one with 14 college starts and 1 at LT and a center who never played the position. WR and RB were supposed to be elevated by the QB play. Toss in a HC who is a better slug living on a SB won by a generational QB talent who told folks MM was the dumbest coach he was ever around and MM was run out of GB for being a sloth lazy uninspired HC. All these problems were voiced before the season started but “Mr football” Jerry told everyone that the team was championship contenders and Dak was elite so once again Jerry gets a F and is the most incompetent GM in football. Highest paid QB in NFL history 34 million WR and look at what he got a diva and a I got paid QB Who thinks he’s a legend
Jerry also said he was all in?does anyone believe this guy? or anything that comes out of his mouth!?
and Jerry said he can't afford Henry (but has 23M on the cap). jerry made all the wrong moves this off season and all prior years, but now...hey jerry said, I paid the QB to do more with less!!! as if that doesn't sound stupid onto itself, because money is not a determinent of your play....... if that was the case, then pay him 100M and viloa!!! you win the superbowl!!! hey, because I paid.

the OL is in shambles...I didn't like Guyton and people told me I am pre-judging him, lets wait until he plays. you don't draft a LT, the second most important position on offense, a guy who has started only 8 games in college...let that sink in. he started only 8 game!!! WHY!? and he played RT and never played LT...... seriously

this is the second year in a row we had a disaster draft....and given we don't spend in FA, we had no infusion of talent and this team is a mess. OL, DL, LBs, Safties, RB, WR....its a freaking mess.

and I agree, he went with a coach, who rode the coat tails of Rodgers and got lucky drafting a NT that was the difference maker in their defense and lucked into a superbowl....and now jerry decided to keep him, well you know. because there is coaches dead money!!!!!
 

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Jerry also said he was all in?does anyone believe this guy? or anything that comes out of his mouth!?
and Jerry said he can't afford Henry (but has 23M on the cap). jerry made all the wrong moves this off season and all prior years, but now...hey jerry said, I paid the QB to do more with less!!! as if that doesn't sound stupid onto itself, because money is not a determinent of your play....... if that was the case, then pay him 100M and viloa!!! you win the superbowl!!! hey, because I paid.

the OL is in shambles...I didn't like Guyton and people told me I am pre-judging him, lets wait until he plays. you don't draft a LT, the second most important position on offense, a guy who has started only 8 games in college...let that sink in. he started only 8 game!!! WHY!? and he played RT and never played LT...... seriously

this is the second year in a row we had a disaster draft....and given we don't spend in FA, we had no infusion of talent and this team is a mess. OL, DL, LBs, Safties, RB, WR....its a freaking mess.

and I agree, he went with a coach, who rode the coat tails of Rodgers and got lucky drafting a NT that was the difference maker in their defense and lucked into a superbowl....and now jerry decided to keep him, well you know. because there is coaches dead money!!!!!
It’s a sad state of affairs all around except the kicking game. Jerry just believes he’s a great football guy who told everyone else they don’t know crap and should apply to the other 31 Teams if they think they know more than him. It’s sad but it’s what it is for the foreseeable future unfortunately, he’s in the news cycle daily so I’m sure he’s happy, I hope you get the game I got a crap game today
 

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Odds are not favorable for Dak to finish his contract.

the Post June 1 cut is there for 2026.

#TreyLance haters aren’t gonna be happy, but Dallas likes the kid.

I would still draft another QB in 2025. But in a late round.

Rush will be leaving us soon. He will be making UFA $$$.
 

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It’s a sad state of affairs all around except the kicking game. Jerry just believes he’s a great football guy who told everyone else they don’t know crap and should apply to the other 31 Teams if they think they know more than him. It’s sad but it’s what it is for the foreseeable future unfortunately, he’s in the news cycle daily so I’m sure he’s happy, I hope you get the game I got a crap game today
and the kicker find was pure luck....because he wasn't about to spend money on any known kicker. he wanted the cheapest.
 

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Dallas had better qb play the last half of the 4th quarter today

Highest paid guy in league history and Rush looked clearly more in command coming in cold off the bench.

Sad.
 

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Dallas had better qb play the last half of the 4th quarter today

Highest paid guy in league history and Rush looked clearly more in command coming in cold off the bench.

Sad.
:hammer:Sad but true considering the 60 Million $ price tag.............. Rush has more talent then Prestrash.
 
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