Dallas needs better QB play

[Chasing6]

#TreyLance

He said a QB.

 

[stiletto]

Duck Prescott is one of our worst players this year.

Lol... Duck Prescott.. I was thinking the other day, I've never seen anyone walk with their feet sideways as bad as Dak. Is that because of his ankle injury? I always think about those vintage Charlie Chaplin clips when I see Dak walk. I have kind of always thought I was imagining things..

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

We need good QB play and good defensive play because even with good QB play we’re not going to win with this defense.

The reverse is also true, without an offense that is able to put up point, a defense wouldn't save this team. With the Defense we expected them to be bad. And we expected the running game to be bad. We expected the Offensive line to be mediocre. While I knew the OL and Running game would expose some of the QBs deficiencies, I didn't think that position had regressed from last year. I don't think if you put the same guy on last year's team, there would've been any talk about MVP. Dak has regressed IMO: while I thought he was slow in the pocket last year, he looks much worse this year.

 

[Chasing6]

The reverse is also true, without an offense that is able to put up point, a defense wouldn't save this team. With the Defense we expected them to be bad. And we expected the running game to be bad. We expected the Offensive line to be mediocre. While I knew the OL and Running game would expose some of the QBs deficiencies, I didn't think that position had regressed from last year. I don't think if you put the same guy on last year's team, there would've been any talk about MVP. Dak has regressed IMO: while I thought he was slow in the pocket last year, he looks much worse this year.

We are averaging 21 points a game. KC D is giving up less than 17.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Lol... Duck Prescott.. I was thinking the other day, I've never seen anyone walk with their feet sideways as bad as Dak. Is that because of his ankle injury? I always think about those vintage Charlie Chaplin clips when I see Dak walk. I have kind of always thought I was imagining things..

When dak rolls out for a pass I have NEVER seen so much awkward footwork. Its like he PURPOSELY steps on the most opposite foot to throw the ball. It's weird.

But of COURSE this would be an errant pass. Basic mechanics (sometimes known as "best practices") are ignored or can't be done.

And what's worse.....the incomplete pass (at best) could probably be a decent gain if not a first down if he just "runs". Even Charlie Chaplin-like.


This is a REALLY weird and awkward situation for the highest paid player EVER in the NFL.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

We are averaging 21 points a game. KC D is giving up less than 17.

But...but LOOK OVER THERE! THEY SUCK WORSE!

Dude come on....man up if you can. Stop this "bbuu buu buu OTHER *(&#%^&%#R"

 

[KJJ]

The reverse is also true, without an offense that is able to put up point, a defense wouldn't save this team. With the Defense we expected them to be bad. And we expected the running game to be bad. We expected the Offensive line to be mediocre. While I knew the OL and Running game would expose some of the QBs deficiencies, I didn't think that position had regressed from last year. I don't think if you put the same guy on last year's team, there would've been any talk about MVP. Dak has regressed IMO: while I thought he was slow in the pocket last year, he looks much worse this year.

The Cowboys are bad on both sides of the ball. Usually the offense is real good but the OL and running game has regressed. Polllard has more yards rushing on a 1-6 Titans team than all our backs combined.

 

[Chasing6]

But...but LOOK OVER THERE! THEY SUCK WORSE!

Dude come on....man up if you can. Stop this "bbuu buu buu OTHER *(&#%^&%#R"

You can't handle the truth. Code Red

 

[DUO_CORE]

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

We are averaging 21 points a game. KC D is giving up less than 17.

I guess. Not sure they would be playing as well here, it helps when you look up to your QB and Coach and know if you get to the playoffs they will do their share, I think. Here I think the Defense has been doing better than expected the last few games, considering the injuries, but when your QB turns over, eventually unless they truly believe in him the defense is going to let up.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

The Cowboys are bad on both sides of the ball. Usually the offense is real good but the OL and running game has regressed. Polllard has more yards rushing on a 1-6 Titans team than all our backs combined.

Yes the offensive line and running game has regressed, but certainly based on the start of this season, nobody would consider Dak an MVP candidate either. So the QB position has regressed as well. We all should've know that eventually Dak would have to play under these conditions, at least I've been saying that since at least 2018.

 

[Chasing6]

I guess. Not sure they would be playing as well here, it helps when you look up to your QB and Coach and know if you get to the playoffs they will do their share, I think. Here I think the Defense has been doing better than expected the last few games, considering the injuries, but when your QB turns over, eventually unless they truly believe in him the defense is going to let up.

Like KC's D does.......oh wait.....never mind.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Like KC's D does.......oh wait.....never mind.

It's nice to have a nice D, like you say one that only gives up an average of 17 points per game, that kind of thing can cover up other deficiencies on a team. It is also nice having a nice running game and great offensive line, which also can cover up other deficiencies on a team. Here in Dallas, we've had those in the past, and there were basically two trains of thought on this board. There were some people on this board who thought we had a quote "Top 5 quarterback" who covered up some of the deficiencies of this team. Then we had other people who thought that the Offensive Line and running game helped cover up some of the deficiencies at QB on this team. And while both are probably true, people have pointed out in the past that when Dak gets in trouble with the pass rush, he holds onto the ball to long. In the past he had legs and could get out of trouble, now he will just stay there, not even do a small move to fake out the pass rusher, and just goes down. I expected it to happen, because I've been concern about this part of his game before, but I didn't expect him to look even slower than he did last year. That Offensive Line that got disrespected by some of the fans on this board, sure was better than they gave it credit for. I think we will continue to see the quality of the line and Dak regress further as time goes on. Dak looks a lot more worn than I expected -- like he is at the end of his run.

 

[DickWhitman]

Sure glad we resigned ol' Dak for all that money! Great move! LOL. Now we're SCREWED for years to come! Yeehah!!!

 

[McKDaddy]

I don't subscribe to the "he ain't a star qb, since he ain't a star, I'm not paying him current qb market prices....I'll roll the dice"

I'm completely out on rolling the dice when we have a good bus driver. I will apply blame to Jerry for not drafting a qb in the 3rd and later rounds every couple of years to see if you get lucky and find a player better than Dak.

But I am completely out on ditching a good bus driver for a roll of the dice. Dak is good enough to win at his salary if the gm and playcallers pulled their weight

Well, I don't understand how you would feel that way given the evidence but if you do, you do.

I'm all about taking chances when you aren't a true contender.

 

[5Stars]

LMAO



I think the Players need to publicly say they think that the play calls and the scheming sucks ,what are they going to do, what is this coaching staff have they been neutered, they can't do anything,

I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball I think Prescott I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!!

What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??


I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..

I don't get this fan base at all,


I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.


How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??

I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...

I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…


I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..



But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!


I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..


Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!


I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!

Did you think about all that yourself? I read part of it, I might read the rest tomorrow!

 

[KJJ]

Yes the offensive line and running game has regressed, but certainly based on the start of this season, nobody would consider Dak an MVP candidate either. So the QB position has regressed as well. We all should've know that eventually Dak would have to play under these conditions, at least I've been saying that since at least 2018.

Dak isn’t having a good season but you have to look at the OL, running game and route running issues our WRs have had. When you put a bad team around any good QB they’re going to struggle. Despite his struggles, he has had a couple of solid games and he bounced back from multiple turnovers against Baltimore and Pittsburgh to play much better when those games were on the line.

 

[raven55]

dak has always been bad again and again with good defenses facing him at best he's a backup especially if you look at what he's accomplished. every game when pressured by a good team he folds up like a piece of paper all his yard have come again and again and again from bad teams are at the end of games when most teams know they have the game won. so all you dumbies crawl out of the attic and prove me wrong

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Dak isn’t having a good season but you have to look at the OL, running game and route running issues our WRs have had. When you put a bad team around any good QB they’re going to struggle. Despite his struggles, he has had a couple of solid games and he bounced back from multiple turnovers against Baltimore and Pittsburgh to play much better when those games were on the line.

There seasons I would've called Dak a good QB. But he looks all worn out to me now, and we just paid him a dumb contract. Yes he has a mediocre OL, bad running game, and injured defense. But it certainly not the worse team a Dallas QB had to deal with. Is this team worse than some of Romo's. The difference is until it was towards the end of Romo's career, or even when Dak was a better player, the Quarterback could do something to make a difference. I really doubt that Dak still has it in him to be anykind of difference maker. He's been looking really slow in both mobility and reaction

 

[KJJ]

There seasons I would've called Dak a good QB. But he looks all worn out to me now, and we just paid him a dumb contract. Yes he has a mediocre OL, bad running game, and injured defense. But it certainly not the worse team a Dallas QB had to deal with. Is this team worse than some of Romo's. The difference is until it was towards the end of Romo's career, or even when Dak was a better player, the Quarterback could do something to make a difference. I really doubt that Dak still has it in him to be anykind of difference maker. He's been looking really slow in both mobility and reaction

Not interested in getting into another Dak argument. He hasn’t had a good season, but this is a bad football team. We would be no better than 1-6 without Dak. Even when the defense was healthy, it was terrible. The OL and RBs are bad. We have one real good receiver and he’s had his issues this season. I can’t remember a team that Romo had that had as many holes as this one. He never played for a bad Cowboys team. I said during the offseason, it was the worst I could ever remember with the Cowboys. We did absolutely nothing to improve the team. We got much worse because of all the players we lost.