Dallas vs. Miami... Who wins the NBA Finals? (Heat wins series 4-2)

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WG, the foul on Wade was phantom. Unless from his angle, Daniels bumped his arm to alter it. Its possible from his angle that he saw contact, but they never showed a replay from the refs POV.

But from the angle shown on TV, there was no foul.
 

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Vintage said:
WG, the foul on Wade was phantom. Unless from his angle, Daniels bumped his arm to alter it. Its possible from his angle that he saw contact, but they never showed a replay from the refs POV.

But from the angle shown on TV, there was no foul.
Not disagreeing w/u. Guess I wasn't clear in my explanation. I was just saying why I think the official blew the whistle. If they show from the refs angle, that's the only way you can be sure. From the TV replays, I didn't see the contact, but I did see Daniels swipe at him. And that's the only thing the official could've seen to make him blow the whistle.
 

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Not disagreeing w/u. Guess I wasn't clear in my explanation. I was just saying why I think the official blew the whistle. If they show from the refs angle, that's the only way you can be sure. From the TV replays, I didn't see the contact, but I did see Daniels swipe at him. And that's the only thing the official could've seen to make him blow the whistle.

Yeah, I was just agreeing with you.
 

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Danny White said:
Uhhh, why the heck isn't Dwayne Wade getting the ball here in the 4th?
I was thinking the same thing. But I'm not sure he's even been able to sit, so he's possibly tired. Why else would you let Walker and J-Will make all the shots?
 

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I know there's still a few minutes left, but that 3 pointer may have been a dagger.
 

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Danny White said:
Great minds.



haha


i'm really torn....i basically dislike both teams.

i'm glad i'm not a fan for either team, or i'd be having heart failure.
 

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phillycowboyslover said:
haha


i'm really torn....i basically dislike both teams.

i'm glad i'm not a fan for either team, or i'd be having heart failure.
I'm still bitter the Spurs are out.

I'd root for the Mavs if it weren't for Cuban and his (and some of the fans') whining.
 

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Congrats to the Heat, and to the Mavs who played a great series and had a great year.
 

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not happy shaq has another ring, but it's tough to be too upset to see the mavs walk off losers.
 

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Karma finally caught up to the Mavs .........

Couldn't happen to a better owner :lmao2:
 

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Great finals. Congrats to the Heat! I like both teams. Not really a big NBA fan, but had my reasons for both teams to win it. Dallas because they are in Dallas, and the Heat because Shaq still gets some love in L.A.
 

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Nowitzki: How Miami shot us down


By Marc Stein
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DALLAS -- The sad reality for Dirk Nowitzki is that folks probably won't remember the drive and free throw in San Antonio . . . or the 50 points he hung on Phoenix . . . or that early rumble down the lane Tuesday night and the lefty flush that finished it.

They are mostly going to remember the finish.

They will inevitably remember that 2-0 lead Nowitzki's Dallas Mavericks seized in their first NBA Finals and everything taken away from them thereafter by the new, worthy champs from Miami.

"If we win that [Game 3], the series is probably pretty much over," Nowitzki said. "Maybe [we] were starting to celebrate too early, or . . . I don't know what happened.

"That was a tough loss that really changed the momentum of the whole series. After that, they got confidence. They played a lot better afterwards. Everybody kept making shots."

The metamorphosis of the Heat from regular-season underachievers to postseason kings advanced to such a stage that, by this Game 6, Miami really was an everybody. The Mavs weren't simply dealing with their Dwyane Wade problems.

They had Alonzo Mourning problems, Udonis Haslem problems, even Antoine Walker problems.

For all its speed and depth and youthful athleticism, Dallas found itself playing catch-up on too many fronts after its 14-point lead got erased by halftime. The Heat had become everything Pat Riley -- and pretty much only Pat Riley -- imagined when Wade and Shaquille O'Neal were surrounded by a group of cantankerous vets last August. By the end of this 95-92 clincher on the Mavs' floor, Miami truly looked like the league's best team.

It was the Mavs who couldn't keep up.



"You know, really, I didn't plan on giving this speech," said Mavs coach Avery Johnson, not quite believing that he had just been ushered into summer with his first four-game losing streak of the season.

The Mavs did figure they'd have to deal with more beyond-his-years brilliance from Wade, who duly delivered 36 points and 10 boards in the clincher to complete his Finals MVP runaway. You can forgive Wade's two late misses from the line -- even though they gave Jason Terry a chance to force overtime with a triple that rimmed out -- when you realize how much he's doing in Year 3.

Leading the way, in the other words, for famous names like O'Neal (now 4-2 instead of a pedestrian 3-3 in his trips to the Finals) and Mourning (a first-time champ along with Gary Payton) and even Riles (after a torturous 18-season drought) to spruce up their legacies and hush the skeptics who've doubted them.

"He really won them the championship," Nowitzki said of Wade. "From Game 3, when we were up [13], he just took over."

"He just took it to another level," Riley concurred, somewhat astonished himself by Wade's own transformation after what the coach described as "two difficult games" for No. 3 to open these Finals.

"You all witnessed it," Riley continued. "You all watched it. Players like that are very hard to come by and to watch them grow right in front of you . . . I've never had a player like this."

Of course, Wade becomes even more dangerous when Riles has several players hurting the Mavs, as seen in this farewell to 2005-06. The Heat's outside shooting was woeful, as Miami's many critics promised it would be all season, but their defense was the real difference, so stout that the errant 3s (2 for 18) didn't matter. Miami gradually snuffed out Dallas' will to attack after so many smart folks in this game believed beforehand that the Heat had no chance against the Mavs' perimeter speed.

The Mavs made the mighty Spurs play at their quickened pace and showed they could run with the Suns when they had to do, but Dallas' Game 6 attempts to push the tempo lasted about a quarter. The Heat weathered Nowitzki's aggressive start and, largely because of vicious resistance at the rim from Mourning, stopped the run just like they did in the Detroit series. The hosts then reverted to their unwanted past and proved too willing to work from outside, even though any Miami foul would have put Dallas on the line for the final 7:06 of regulation

"We really sped the game up from the beginning and that's what really got us the lead," Nowitzki said. "[But] once we play against their set defense, they are really, really good. They just clog up the paint. They've got great shot-blockers in there. Then you're forced to shoot jumpers."

The Mavs were likewise forced to accept that, whatever your view on all the Game 5 officiating controversies, mounting pressure got to them once the series shifted to South Florida. There were three close games in these Finals -- by margins of two, one and three points -- and the younger team lost them all.

Even after finally breaking through against their rivals from South Texas, Dallas clear still has plenty to figure out. High on the list is dealing with rising expectations, which only swelled after a 2-0 lead was so nearly stretched to 3-0. Fact is, as Nowitzki admitted: "Nobody really expected us to come out of the West." That apparently made toppling San Antonio, massive as it seemed at the time, somehow easier than finishing off the hungrier Heat.

The Mavs, at 2-0 up and 89-76 ahead in Game 3, were supposed to steamroll these guys. The farther away they fell from a steamrolling, Dallas' confidence problems snowballed.


"The good teams and the great players get stronger from defeat," Terry said after his roller-coaster playoffs ended on a major downer: 7-for-25 shooting in support of Nowitzki's 29 points and 15 boards.

"For us, I would say a great season is actually winning it," Johnson added. "But whatever the step below that is, that's what we've done. [In October], we talked about aiming high and winning a championship. We didn't talk about getting here. But this was a tremendous learning experience for our players and coaches. You can't really get this good on-the-job experience until you're here.

"Like I said early on, I don't think when the season started anybody picked Dallas and Miami to be in the Finals. So take your hats off to them. We've had a lot of highs and a lot of lows. You guys have seen me at my best and at my worst this series. I just think [there's] no excuses. They deserved to win, and we'll come back."

Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here.


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As title slips away, Mavs fans ready to assign blame


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DALLAS -- As the final buzzer sounded, brooding Dallas Mavericks fans looked for reasons why their team failed to win its first NBA title after jumping out to a 2-0 lead against the Miami Heat.


The Heat's 95-92 victory on Tuesday night gave Miami its first NBA championship instead. Miami won the series 4-2 and celebrated the historic win on the Mavericks home court.


"I paid $1,200 for these tickets, and we did not win," said Ashleigh Adams of Arlington, among dejected Mavericks fans who streamed out of the American Airlines Center and made plans to drown their sorrows at local bars.


"We got the coach. We got the team. We wanted it all this year, though," said Korby Keene. "The Heat aren't that good. The refs gave them the game."


Fan criticism of the referees followed the example provided by the Dallas owner.


Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was fined $250,000 on Tuesday for his outbursts following Game 5 of the NBA finals, and commissioner David Stern said he was growing weary of off-court antics drawing attention from the series.


Cuban was cited for "several acts of misconduct" committed after Dallas lost 101-100 in overtime to the Heat in Miami on Sunday night. The infractions included Cuban going onto the floor to complain directly to official Joe DeRosa, screaming toward Stern and a group of league officials.


Stern was booed loudly by the fans that remained in the stands during the postgame trophy presentation on Tuesday night.


"If we believe that the last great conspiracy theory in Dallas was JFK's death, the second greatest conspiracy theory was that David Stern wanted the Miami Heat to win the championship," said Mavericks fan George Graffy, 41.


Three people were arrested on misdemeanor assault charges, and one was treated at the scene after a fight in the arena parking lot. All involved were Mavericks fans. Police said tension from the game contributed to the incident.


At least some fans were not willing to blame the Mavericks' title loss on someone else.


"The game was unbelievable but understandable. If you lose Game 3 the way we did, you can't blame it on the refs. The true fan understands that the turning point [was] Game Three," said Ramon Guajardo, 27.


"I'm bummed, I'm going to go drink heavily. It will not be a good night," said James Jones, 50, who sported a suit, tie and a blue mohawk for the game.


At Frankie's Sports Bar and Grill, the owner, Bill Katz, painted his face in Mavericks colors and waved a large flag when the score got close to exhort the faithful to cheer for the home team.


Much of their energy was spent responding to two boisterous fans from Miami. The women, who were heavily outnumbered by Mavericks fans, boldly wore bright Heat T-shirts and clapped and cheered on every Miami score.


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Glad Dallas has some smart fans...

The turning point was game 3. The Mavs never recovered. They lacked the heart of champions.

Miami is deserving of the title, sad to say. As much as I hate Miami, they wanted it more, deserved it more, and played better.
 
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