Dan Patrick, Chris Mortenson & T.O.

[Everlastingxxx]

Who do you want to take out of the Cowboys starting lineup? Think with T.O.’s ego he would want to be a #3 receiver? I doubt T.O. will be released this season, i think the Eagles would rather pay him and deactivate.

 

[Danny White]

Who do you want to take out of the Cowboys starting lineup? Think with T.O.’s ego he would want to be a #3 receiver? I doubt T.O. will be released this season, i think the Eagles would rather pay him and deactivate.

Who WOULDN'T I take out of our starting lineup?

I don't want TO, but anyone who doesn't think he instantly becomes our top receiver must be watching Australian Rules Football.

I think you'd keep him on the field most downs, and rotate Key and Glenn opposite him depending on the situation.

 

[joseephuss]

Who do you want to take out of the Cowboys starting lineup? Think with T.O.’s ego he would want to be a #3 receiver? I doubt T.O. will be released this season, i think the Eagles would rather pay him and deactivate.

I am not questioning what the Eagles are doing. I think they have played the supension/deactivation pretty well. I don't think they will release him this season. Dan Patrick and Chris Mortenson seem to think they will. I had not heard that from the media before today. It is smart by Philly because they don't want other teams in the playoff hunt to gain his skills. "IF" they do release T.O., I wouldn't mind him coming to Dallas. I won't be disappointed if Dallas doesn't make a move on him. I just see it as less risk.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

If the arbitrator rules against the Eagles, they still have the option of deactivating him for the remainder of the season. They will not release him, as that is what TO wants them to do.

The point it that they need to either activate him or release him. The possibility of playing for the Eagles isn't the point - he won't. It is allowing him to find another team before the end of the season.

 

[1fisher]

Who do you want to take out of the Cowboys starting lineup? Think with T.O.’s ego he would want to be a #3 receiver? I doubt T.O. will be released this season, i think the Eagles would rather pay him and deactivate.

TO coming to dallas = :ralph:

people on this board wanting TO in Dallas = :ralph: :ralph: :ralph: :ralph: :ralph:

speculation..geez!!!!

 

[JackMagist]

Yes, AtlCB, but under the catch-alls of 'insubordination', or 'conduct detrimental' (the Eagles preferred language) all three of those don't equal one tossed jersey in the HC's face.

Still, there certainly seems to be enough for the four weeker..players have gotten it for much less, but my guess right now is the Eagles are in danger of being overruled on the eight.

If I understand the rules correctly they cannot be overturned on the 8 weeks since they are in essence doing is not making him active for the last 4 games; it is not "technically" a suspension. He will still be on the roster and will still get paid his $200,000+ per game for the last 4 games.

Gene Upshaw has asked the team not to “inactivate” TO for the last 4 games. But he admits that it is up to them and nowhere does the CBA allow for the players to take any official action in regards to the active / inactive rosters. The CBA allows a grievance for the 4 weeks of unpaid suspension but the remained is strictly at the team’s discretion.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I wouldn't want him on our team, but he's the best wideout in football overall.

 

[Vertigo_17]

I think what the whole arbitration hearing boils down to is this...

The Eagles want to put TO on the shelf w/out paying him anything. TO apparently wants to be part of the Eagles "Team" again and get paid. In the end, I agree somewhat with DannyWhite that the Eagles need to have a bullet proof case to suspend him w/out pay.

I suspect the Eagles will end up paying him and keep him inactive for the remainder of the season. No way will they let him walk. They have the cap money to cover it and are not going to give TO the satisfaction of playing again this season.

 

[joseephuss]

I wouldn't want him on our team, but he's the best wideout in football overall.

Maybe it becomes a case of claiming him off waivers, so a team with a better record such as the Giants or Seahawks can't get him.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I am not questioning what the Eagles are doing. I think they have played the supension/deactivation pretty well. I don't think they will release him this season. Dan Patrick and Chris Mortenson seem to think they will. I had not heard that from the media before today. It is smart by Philly because they don't want other teams in the playoff hunt to gain his skills. "IF" they do release T.O., I wouldn't mind him coming to Dallas. I won't be disappointed if Dallas doesn't make a move on him. I just see it as less risk.

I think if we had a rash of injuries to the wide receiver position, maybe possible. I really don’t think we need him at the moment. Now if he was an all pro left or right tackle...hmmm.

 

[Vertigo_17]

The point it that they need to either activate him or release him. The possibility of playing for the Eagles isn't the point - he won't. It is allowing him to find another team before the end of the season.

They have the right to keep him inactive for the remainder of the season if they chose to do so. But, in doing this - he gets paid every week for being on the roster.

The issue is they want to suspend him for 4 games w/out pay and then keep in inactive w/out pay for the remaining games.

 

[FolsomCowboy]

I think the reasoning they will release them is that the NFLPA is hoping they force the Eagles to "allow TO to go to work" which means he can workout, train, and practice at the Eagles facility. TO's ploy is to force the Eagles to release him rather than have him hanging around, which is what he will do. He doesnt want to play for the Eagles, he wants access to the facilities to cause disruption and force the Eagles hand.

 

[Eskimo]

Maybe it becomes a case of claiming him off waivers, so a team with a better record such as the Giants or Seahawks can't get him.

As he is a veteran, he is not subject to waivers. If released, he could sign with whoever he wanted.

 

[Danny White]

I think what the whole arbitration hearing boils down to is this...

The Eagles want to put TO on the shelf w/out paying him anything. TO apparently wants to be part of the Eagles "Team" again and get paid. In the end, I agree somewhat with DannyWhite that the Eagles need to have a bullet proof case to suspend him w/out pay.

I suspect the Eagles will end up paying him and keep him inactive for the remainder of the season. No way will they let him walk. They have the cap money to cover it and are not going to give TO the satisfaction of playing again this season.

(we need a smily where the hammer is hitting TO over the head)

 

[joseephuss]

They have the right to keep him inactive for the remainder of the season if they chose to do so. But, in doing this - he gets paid every week for being on the roster.

The issue is they want to suspend him for 4 games w/out pay and then keep in inactive w/out pay for the remaining games.

It isn't inactive without pay. They were still going to pay him to stay home.

The majority of the speculation is that the arbitrator will rule that they have to do one or the other, but not both.

 

[conner01]

the arbitrator can reduse the unpaid suspension time, he can not force the team to release t.o.

teams have the right under the cba to activate who ever they like the arbitrator has no control over this. don't see him getting released. the eagles have to pay him no matter what so why would they release him? does'nt save them any money so there is no reason to release him other than helping him out and i don't think they care to help him in any way

 

[Vertigo_17]

I think the reasoning they will release them is that the NFLPA is hoping they force the Eagles to "allow TO to go to work" which means he can workout, train, and practice at the Eagles facility. TO's ploy is to force the Eagles to release him rather than have him hanging around, which is what he will do. He doesnt want to play for the Eagles, he wants access to the facilities to cause disruption and force the Eagles hand.

Let him onsite and give him access ot the facilities. It won't be long before he does something stupid giving the Eagles reason for another suspension.

 

[joseephuss]

As he is a veteran, he is not subject to waivers. If released, he could sign with whoever he wanted.

Mort said he has to go through waivers because the release(if released) would come after the trade deadline.

 

[Eskimo]

Mort said he has to go through waivers because the release(if released) would come after the trade deadline.

That's an interesting clause, if true.

 

[blindzebra]

Let's get this straight.

So with just 4 or 5 games left he gets cut.

There will hopefully be around 20+ teams with a higher waiver priority than Dallas.

Say he clears waivers we'd be competing with teams like ATL, SEA, STL, NE, WAS, NYG, CAR, SD, KC, JAX who all have a greater need at WR.

Now we sign him and he's 5 games out of football shape, coming from two WCO teams, so best case is he's inactive what, 1 week? Two weeks?

Now we have 2 or 3 games left, and we have Witten, Key, Glenn, Crayton, Price, and TO. We saw with Price that just because a player has a NAME that if he does not have first hand knowledge of them Parcells ain't gonna upset the apple cart.

So where does this leave us?