Dan Quinn on Xavier Rhodes

[DallasDW00ds0n]

crazy its for non-guaranteed 3-5 games not an entire year of not only roster spots but cap money ,do you not understand this, no different then TY, A full season would likely cost more and take roster spot early on and they might get injured with heavy pay time.. now they KNOW what they need and how to accommodate it.

On joseph and wright, how did they know they wouldn't all take a step and be like Bland, they had to play first which took time, again the late season ending injuries to Lewis and Brown created the late reaction to this need. not Team can carry that much doeth not knowing where the injuries would be given they are in constant flux trying to get the game day rosters set and then the other PS players up and down all season.

why did philly need to go get quinn, suh, and joseph late, they also added safety back late? why not in TC??.,.come on man you are losing this debate...

You actually looked up the salary hits on Hilton and Rhodes? Their guarantees are slightly over 1 million combined. Crazy right?

However, you are right and you are correct, they did approach CB just as poorly as WR and I’d even include DT. Stubbornness lead to scrambling which lead to we were literally begging Odell at one point. It’s a whole other topic but virtually the same, giving away Cooper for a bag of lunch; the rookie Tolbert can’t play etc etc and now we sign guys late in the year and hope they make the difference.

Unless of course we’re still going with the theory this was by design?

In regards to Bland, this has nothing to do with Bland. Bland is not in his second year and he has outplayed these guys. They’re not actively trying to replace Bland. If it were truly about developing guys like Wright and Joseph they would have had as much playing time as possible against Washington.

Also, in reference to Philly, are you talking about Gardner Johnson? He’s been on their team all year, he’s leading the team in ints. And there were people here daily posting about the availability of Suh and how we should have added him. They were churning the bottom of their roster before the trade deadline, exactly what maybe we should have done beyond just adding Hankins.

Please, I wish this FO operated like Philadelphia.

 

[Carson]

…and they were also on the street around Christmas.

Why do I feel like that isn’t going to cut it?

I’m just saying, they need to understand that even the best of them are going to miss on draft picks. Don’t count on that alone…and other than vets whose best days are behind them, they generally do.

If THATS the “secret sauce” they’ve got it wrong. That’s clear to everyone but them. Frustrating.

I’m not saying it’s going to cut it or will not.

But how many teams can operate on CB6??? They’ve exhausted all avenues past the trade deadline

 

[deerhunter11]

cb mullen got burned on a long completion against washington hopefully rhodes can bring something to help this secondary we will soon see some pressure on brady would help matters

 

[tyke1doe]

Please don’t remind me of Pete Hunter

 

[tyke1doe]

And We did not even attempt to take advantage of it, Sad!

That was my one knock on Parcells. He was TOO conservative that game. Romo should have lit that secondary up.

 

[Acceptablename]

Joseph name shall be stricken from the box. So it said so what is written

 

[Doomsday101]

You actually looked up the salary hits on Hilton and Rhodes? Their guarantees are slightly over 1 million combined. Crazy right?

However, you are right and you are correct, they did approach CB just as poorly as WR and I’d even include DT. Stubbornness lead to scrambling which lead to we were literally begging Odell at one point. It’s a whole other topic but virtually the same, giving away Cooper for a bag of lunch; the rookie Tolbert can’t play etc etc and now we sign guys late in the year and hope they make the difference.

Unless of course we’re still going with the theory this was by design?

In regards to Bland, this has nothing to do with Bland. Bland is not in his second year and he has outplayed these guys. They’re not actively trying to replace Bland. If it were truly about developing guys like Wright and Joseph they would have had as much playing time as possible against Washington.

Also, in reference to Philly, are you talking about Gardner Johnson? He’s been on their team all year, he’s leading the team in ints. And there were people here daily posting about the availability of Suh and how we should have added him. They were churning the bottom of their roster before the trade deadline, exactly what maybe we should have done beyond just adding Hankins.

Please, I wish this FO operated like Philadelphia.

So getting DT Linval Joseph on a one-year deal and Suh in Nov because their run defense sucked was by design?

 

[blueblood70]

You actually looked up the salary hits on Hilton and Rhodes? Their guarantees are slightly over 1 million combined. Crazy right?

However, you are right and you are correct, they did approach CB just as poorly as WR and I’d even include DT. Stubbornness lead to scrambling which lead to we were literally begging Odell at one point. It’s a whole other topic but virtually the same, giving away Cooper for a bag of lunch; the rookie Tolbert can’t play etc etc and now we sign guys late in the year and hope they make the difference.

Unless of course we’re still going with the theory this was by design?

In regards to Bland, this has nothing to do with Bland. Bland is not in his second year and he has outplayed these guys. They’re not actively trying to replace Bland. If it were truly about developing guys like Wright and Joseph they would have had as much playing time as possible against Washington.

Also, in reference to Philly, are you talking about Gardner Johnson? He’s been on their team all year, he’s leading the team in ints. And there were people here daily posting about the availability of Suh and how we should have added him. They were churning the bottom of their roster before the trade deadline, exactly what maybe we should have done beyond just adding Hankins.

Please, I wish this FO operated like Philadelphia.

keep up they also brought 4 payers in when we went and got Hankins and some dbs etc same scenario one was a safety they cut at cutdown. So again keep up teams do Not know what holes will need to be filled and have enough depth to cover all that under a capped league with 53 man roster limit..its a constant set of moving payers and once need became dire you go get players JUST lie the eagles did.

 

[CouchCoach]

Where was Rhodes when they signed him? Teams have had CB's dropping all over the place, where was he?

 

[Portnoy1]

It's not ideal but we lost Brown and Lewis to season long injuries during the season.
I can't blame the FO/coaches for at least wanting to see how Joseph and Wright could do year two offseason while having a starting trio of Diggs, Brown and Lewis.
Bland has been a great rookie for this defense.
Unfortunately, the CB duo of 21 wasn't ready to shoulder the load so it is what it is.

Like the short bus rider @Cowboy_svt posted, glad to see them at least sign guys off the street instead of hoping the next week it would click for Joseph/Wright.

If you can avoid using the words “Click” and “Joseph” in the same sentence it would be appreciated. Signed K.Joseph attorney

 

[John813]

If you can avoid using the words “Click” and “Joseph” in the same sentence it would be appreciated. Signed K.Joseph attorney

Son of a gun, you're right. I'm guilty of that mistake.
I hope Joseph has a killer postseason.

 

[Rockport]

“Good news is we had the most tape on Xavier where we could evaluate him in different spots,” the Cowboys DC told reporters. “Man, can he pick it up fast. I was blown away by football instincts right away.”


It’s always a relief when you find your starting CB 7 days before your Wild Card game.

Imagine addressing this issue in the summer at Oxnard? Nah, too easy. Much more fun to panic buy at positions weeks before the playoffs and have Jerry explain the situation using some weird fable on 105.3 so we feel better about it.

You do realize that 2 starters went down don’t you?

 

[coult44]

My point, and what sailed over your head, was that the depth we carried on the roster wasn’t good enough; and this should have been fairly obvious over summer. Joseph had a horrible offseason and Wright was terrible in preseason. Jerry and Co.‘s insistence to go with them has us scrambling to fill the gaps now. Hooray.

Some of you guys expect us to to have pro bowl type players for all 22 starting positions.

Let’s look at the DB position at during TC.
Starers: Diggs, Brown, Lewis,
Heavily invested with 2nd year guys who we’re expecting to make big jumps that were 2nd rounder, 3rd Rounder, and 5th Rounder, in Joseph, Wright, and Mukuamu. Then we added another 5th rounder in Bland.

That is a pretty good way to start the year, especially when so much was going to be expected from potential starter Boss Man Phat. Add to how deep we are at S, and this isn’t bad at all. But I get it, hindsight is 20/20.

We were thin in way more position groups than CB and if KJ wasn’t a complete bust, and if AB and Lewis didn’t have season ending injuries, we’d be fine.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

So getting DT Linval Joseph on a one-year deal and Suh in Nov because their run defense sucked was by design?

How did you miss the fact that I was being sarcastic? It was a rebuttal to the statement that we kept bad players on the roster with zero expectation of them getting significant playing time.

What the Eagles FO does is circles around our own.

 

[Pass2Run]

Nobody planned on having both Anthony Brown and Jourdan Lewis going down for the entire season either. The Cowboys didn't need to address this spot in Oxnard.

Rhodes is a better option than Joseph, Wright, or Mullen so I am all for letting him start in the playoffs if he's ready.

Totally agree.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

keep up they also brought 4 payers in when we went and got Hankins and some dbs etc same scenario one was a safety they cut at cutdown. So again keep up teams do Not know what holes will need to be filled and have enough depth to cover all that under a capped league with 53 man roster limit..its a constant set of moving payers and once need became dire you go get players JUST lie the eagles did.

You understand Suh and Joseph do not start? How are these comparable? We’re bringing in guys to literally start over two guys that have been in the system for two years because they’re incapable. What the Eagles did is quite literally what I’m suggesting we should have done. They added those vets to come in for what? 20 snaps a game at DT?

What’s so hard to accept as a theory to suggest that maybe Boss Man Fat’s growth hasn’t been enough for the 53?

Cap, you keep suggesting the cap…Before you repeat it any further, please check spotrac and look at what the salaries actually are of the new acquisitions and tell me which one is blowing out the cap.

Also, why do we assume when we do suggest roster churning that we have to sign high priced vets? Maybe what we’re merely looking for is players that play, and cut the dead weight before it’s too late. If we’re developing Wright and Joseph, as if they’re on some step by step program, it makes zero sense these guys weren’t on the field for the full game with Washington.

 

[Pass2Run]

That’s true, however this crazy cap thing hasn’t stopped us from signing Alexander, Rhodes, or Mullen.

But you're forgetting (or conveniently omitting), only 53 guys can be on the team; only 45 play on gameday.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

But you're forgetting (or conveniently omitting), only 53 guys can be on the team; only 45 play on gameday.

Not quite, because I’m implying Wright and Joseph are not on the 53. Lol

 

[blueblood70]

You understand Suh and Joseph do not start? How are these comparable? We’re bringing in guys to literally start over two guys that have been in the system for two years because they’re incapable. What the Eagles did is quite literally what I’m suggesting we should have done. They added those vets to come in for what? 20 snaps a game at DT?

What’s so hard to accept as a theory to suggest that maybe Boss Man Fat’s growth hasn’t been enough for the 53?

Cap, you keep suggesting the cap…Before you repeat it any further, please check spotrac and look at what the salaries actually are of the new acquisitions and tell me which one is blowing out the cap.

Also, why do we assume when we do suggest roster churning that we have to sign high priced vets? Maybe what we’re merely looking for is players that play, and cut the dead weight before it’s too late. If we’re developing Wright and Joseph, as if they’re on some step by step program, it makes zero sense these guys weren’t on the field for the full game with Washington.

they did they were short like 3 DTs and then safety and plugged the holes Temporarily like we did. so they didn't lose all their starter for the season like we did, poor luck same scenario they were forced to make a quick roster update with players still out there late in seaosn.no difference whatsoever, NEXT.

 

[cej757]

I didn't realize Rhodes is the same age as Darius Slay 32 years old. I think Rhodes will be fine as long as he has safety help over the top. He's a big corner and he probably doesn't have the deep speed he used to have.