Dare I say: Eli's BETTER than Romo?

[cmacch]

Manning and Romo are 2 different types of QB with 2 completely different approaches to the game. Eli is a bus driver who is under orders to make safe throws and let his running game carry the load. Romo is on a team with a pass happy coordinator that doesn't respect the running game and who enables his reckless sand lot approach to the game. Eli is unlikely to put the game on his shoulders--his running game does that, and if you rattle him he can start to throw picks.

Romo can have fantastic games where he looks like a magician, but because he does not have any discipline and nobody to give him any, he has become a reckless turnover machine as of late. He has repeatedly had the chance to make positive safe plays, but instead he lobs the ball 60 yards down field into double coverage for an INT.

 

[gmb85]

I guess it is if you're a Giants fan!

If you're a Cowboys fan it stinks!

Exactly.:

 

[followthestar]

when teams draft players, some are looking for immediate contributors and some are looking for greater upside. Tony's biggest problem IMO is that under duress he goes for the jugular, lofting deep passes when a simple scramble or dump-off would net a first down and keep the chains moving. Tony is not a keep-the-chains-moving type of QB and Eli is.

but Eli has topped out his potential, and I want you all to imagine what Romo could do when or if he learns to manage games a little better. Having a pass-happy coach may increase that learning curve, unfortunately. A coach who preached a solid ground game would benefit Tony more, I think.

If I was GM, I would promote JG to HC, find a new OC who believed in a strong running game, and pray Wade would stay on as an "advisor" to whoever got the DC job, then cross my fingers...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Eli is better managing a game than Romo is...maybe

but some of the stuff Romo has done, Eli could only dream about doing, that's when all 5 linemen aren't blatantly holding

if you have a bead on Eli, you're usually going to get him down, not true with Romo, his escapability and throwing on the run is one of the finest I've ever seen this side of Brett Farve, unfortunately those skills aren't utilized

 

[GMEN8840]

I am not trying to excuse Romo. However, I don't see anything all that special in Eli Manning. Sorry, I just don't. The Giants OL can protect Manning. Our OL is weak. I never see Eli do anything other than drive the bus. He doesn't make big plays, and why should he? He has the rest of his team to do it (i.e. the RB's)

There is nothing spectacular about handing the ball off to someone else saying "Here ya go!"

you never seen eli make big plays? did you see the superbowl last year? i don't think eli is a better qb than romo but i do think hes better at making as few mistakes as possible.

 

[ajk23az]

you never seen eli make big plays? did you see the superbowl last year? i don't think eli is a better qb than romo but i do think hes better at making as few mistakes as possible.

Agreed here.

 

[gmb85]

you never seen eli make big plays? did you see the superbowl last year? i don't think eli is a better qb than romo but i do think hes better at making as few mistakes as possible.

Wow, you're right.

 

[Clarkson]

Exactly!! Enough with the EXCUSES for Romo!!!

Eli DROVE his team DOWNFILD for the tying TD & 2pt
conversion!

Stop being HOMERS- give credit where its due!:bang3:

LOL, Ward had like 200 rush yards, Jacobs had like 90 and 3 touchdowns.
Eli didn't win that game, bud.

 

[JVita17]

Why dare say something that is true? Eli is a better QB than Romo.

Eli has won playoffs game and a Superbowl. Romo cant even win in December

 

[Clarkson]

you never seen eli make big plays? did you see the superbowl last year? i don't think eli is a better qb than romo but i do think hes better at making as few mistakes as possible.

People also don't realize Eli is never asked to do as much as Romo is. The Giants don't abandon the run after 10 plays and force Eli to make every play. Eli averages just over 200 yards this season per game. He doesn't have to throw 90% of games on his back like Romo does.

 

[Clarkson]

Why dare say something that is true? Eli is a better QB than Romo.

Eli has won playoffs game and a Superbowl. Romo cant even win in December

No doubt Eli played well in the playoffs.
But that can happen to anyone. It could easily happen to Romo this year. He doesn't make nearly the plays Romo makes, or even have to. His team ran for like 300 yards tonight.

 

[links18]

you never seen eli make big plays? did you see the superbowl last year? i don't think eli is a better qb than romo but i do think hes better at making as few mistakes as possible.

One drive and one BS catch by David Tyree notwithstanding, Eli's athleticism and individual skills don't even come close to Romo's. However, the exact problem with Romo is that he relies too much on his individual skills and hasn't learned how to manage a game. He takes too many unnecessary risks with the ball. He was getting away with those risks mid-way through 2006 and again through most of the year of 2007, but has come back to earth now. It is going to be a real struggle for him not to get down on himself now and learn to manage the game better, in other words become a real NFL QB, not an undrafted sand lot player. it won't help him any to have JG as his coordinator, because those are exactly JG's problems also.

 

[Real1st]

LOL, Ward had like 200 rush yards, Jacobs had like 90 and 3 touchdowns.
Eli didn't win that game, bud.

Your right.. But Eli didn't make any dumb mistakes like Romo would have to cost his team. While Romo may be more flashy than Eli. Eli gets it done. He doesn't put his team into bad situations like he used to do 2 years ago. If Romo can learn some dicispline he would be a top QB. Jason Garrett also needs to help Romo out

 

[Jenky]

One drive and one BS catch by David Tyree notwithstanding, Eli's athleticism and individual skills don't even come close to Romo's. However, the exact problem with Romo is that he relies too much on his individual skills and hasn't learned how to manage a game. He takes too many unnecessary risks with the ball. He was getting away with those risks mid-way through 2006 and again through most of the year of 2007, but has come back to earth now. It is going to be a real struggle for him not to get down on himself now and learn to manage the game better, in other words become a real NFL QB, not an undrafted sand lot player. it won't help him any to have JG as his coordinator, because those are exactly JG's problems also.

Also a dropped INT by Samuel If I recall. It could have ended it.

 

[Clarkson]

Your right.. But Eli didn't make any dumb mistakes like Romo would have to cost his team. While Romo may be more flashy than Eli. Eli gets it done. He doesn't put his team into bad situations like he used to do 2 years ago. If Romo can learn some dicispline he would be a top QB. Jason Garrett also needs to help Romo out

Eli really isn't asked to make all the plays Romo is asked to make, though. Part of the reason is because he can't. Another reason is because their run game has been pretty absurd this year. Eli had to make plays last week and didn't. At all.

 

[RainMan]

If I were building a team, I don't know that I would pick Manning over Romo. When you're building a team, you're looking as much at future projections as past accomplishments, and I like what Romo has to offer a little more than Manning.

But Eli is easily more accomplished. Romo has the prettier stat line, but Eli outshines him in the what category that matters.

Who's better? At this moment, a season after winning the Super Bowl and hours after taking his team to the No. 1 seed in the conference, I think you have to give the nod to Eli. Not sure it's even in question.

The good news for us and Romo? String a few wins together over the next few weeks, and the debate can be revisited.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

exactly wonderboy

all anyone has to do is watch when Eli is asked to sling the ball around

it's not pretty, you have to go back to wk 1 really to see it, because New York doesn't allow him to take over the offense, but he tossed near 3 picks, except for they were all dropped

 

[GMEN8840]

One drive and one BS catch by David Tyree notwithstanding, Eli's athleticism and individual skills don't even come close to Romo's. However, the exact problem with Romo is that he relies too much on his individual skills and hasn't learned how to manage a game. He takes too many unnecessary risks with the ball. He was getting away with those risks mid-way through 2006 and again through most of the year of 2007, but has come back to earth now. It is going to be a real struggle for him not to get down on himself now and learn to manage the game better, in other words become a real NFL QB, not an undrafted sand lot player. it won't help him any to have JG as his coordinator, because those are exactly JG's problems also.

i agree. sometimes its not who's the best or has the best skills, but who is the smartest/safest

 

[Eskimo]

Romo is much better than Eli but he needs a more QB friendly offense than Garrett is running. If Garrett tried to run this offense with this OL with any other QB in the league, that QB would be in the hospital after about 4 games. The number of times we let someone come in clean to take a shot at Romo is astronomical. What is even more amazing is his ability to escape those situations and make plays.

I really think Romo is struggling with his football grip right now due to his hand injury and the harder and further he has to throw the ball, the more problems he has. The colder the weather is, the more trouble he has.

The big problem right now is Garrett - he is not doing what he needs to do to make Romo and this offense successful. He has a running game to use now but he is not using it. He has good options to throw in the short to intermediate passing game in Witten, Crayton and RW11 but he is not using them either. He is sticking to this vertical offense despite the fact that teams are playing 2-deep, the weather is bad, his QB has a bad hand and his OL is not picking up blitzes and stunts.

Garrett needs to go talk to Norv for awhile about how to develop a QB and how to run an offense. Then he needs to come back to Dallas and apologize to Romo.

 

[Clarkson]

If I were building a team, I don't know that I would pick Manning over Romo. When you're building a team, you're looking as much at future projections as past accomplishments, and I like what Romo has to offer a little more than Manning.

But Eli is easily more accomplished. Romo has the prettier stat line, but Eli outshines him in the what category that matters.

Who's better? At this moment, a season after winning the Super Bowl and hours after taking his team to the No. 1 seed in the conference, I think you have to give the nod to Eli. Not sure it's even in question.

The good news for us and Romo? String a few wins together over the next few weeks, and the debate can be revisited.

As Bob said, when Eli has to make big play, more often than not he doesn't make them. He doesn't have to put NEARLY the amount of games on his shoulders that Romo does.