Dare I say: Eli's BETTER than Romo?

[Cochese]

Eli was so much better than Romo last week.


Great post, idiot.

 

[28 Joker]

Roy Williams is a real good receiver. He can take over a game.

The fact that he isn't getting the ball has to be someone's fault. I know he has a bad foot, but for crying out loud...

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How hard is it?

The Cowboys gave up a 1,3,5, and a 7 if I'm right.

Throw him the ball!

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

Your right.. But Eli didn't make any dumb mistakes like Romo would have to cost his team. While Romo may be more flashy than Eli. Eli gets it done. He doesn't put his team into bad situations like he used to do 2 years ago. If Romo can learn some dicispline he would be a top QB. Jason Garrett also needs to help Romo out

exactly he doesnt like you said ''used to''

and the reason he used to was cause he was asked consistently to make the kind of plays romo does, the giants at the time were throwing more then they were running and kevin gilbride often would have eli take shots right down field. as eli struggles grew he let him get more comfortable in a short passing game and the giants develope a power running attack.

hes not like you said doing what he ''used to do'' because the offense he now is in no longer calls for him to have to do what he used to do!! which is my point exactly. you put him on the cowboys roster or a team like the colts he would struggle mightly. eli is a good manager of the game, i give him that but he is not a play making qb

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Roy Williams is a real good receiver. He can take over a game.

The fact that he isn't getting the ball has to be someone's fault. I know he has a bad foot, but for crying out loud...

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How hard is it?

The Cowboys gave up a 1,3,5, and a 7 if I'm right.

Throw him the ball!

the dude is huge, you don't have to do anything fancy with him, just throw him the ball and let him go get it

 

[Clarkson]

the dude is huge, you don't have to do anything fancy with him, just throw him the ball and let him go get it

Yeah, and has good hands.

 

[RainMan]

Do you like Romo's chances with this coaching staff?

Yes, but only because I think Romo and his offensive mates are that good -- certainly not because I have a high opinion of the offensive coaching staff.

Which, while we're on the subject, I think has done an atrocious job of coaching Romo. You can't help but get the feeling sometimes that he gets no coaching, and that he's almost above coaching in the coaches' eyes.

Oh, and Wade Wilson is still on staff, right? It's funny how the old QB coach was notorious for developing Romo's game. I'm not even sure why Wilson is employed sometimes.

 

[tyke1doe]

exactly he doesnt like you said ''used to''

and the reason he used to was cause he was asked consistently to make the kind of plays romo does, the giants at the time were throwing more then they were running and kevin gilbride often would have eli take shots right down field. as eli struggles grew he let him get more comfortable in a short passing game and the giants develope a power running attack.

hes not like you said doing what he ''used to do'' because the offense he now is in no longer calls for him to have to do what he used to do!! which is my point exactly. you put him on the cowboys roster or a team like the colts he would struggle mightly. eli is a good manager of the game, i give him that but he is not a play making qb

So here's the question: do you want a playmaking quarterback who wins a few games every now and then and then throws a bonehead interception in a very critical game or do you want a game manager, who may not make a spectacular play but does what the offensive scheme allows him to do and wins a playoff game and Super Bowl while being a bus driver?

 

[The Panch]

Romo had 1 turnover in the Arizona game. 1 turnover, 0 fumbles in the Washington loss, 2 INTs in the Washington win where he just came back after 4 weeks off. Oh, and zero fumbles in the Washington win.

Newsflash, just because he gets bailed out by a Cowboy recovering the fumble, doesnt change the fact that he fumbled the ball 3 damn times. He got bailed out by the officials pre-blowing a play dead on an early lost fumble as well.

 

[CutMeMick]

you mean the same superbowl in which on the last drive you speak of eli threw 2 passes right to the patriots secondary that should have been picked?

eli gave the patriots enough chances to end that game samuel and their cornersd choke and couldnt make the big play. he hit asante squar in the chest.

and lets get real here

every qb whos started as long as eli has is gonna have big plays under his belt. rex grossman has big plays so to say none for any starting qb is ridiculous, the thing is he cant do it consistently. like i said eli rarely is put into that position because he is a game manager hiding behind a power run game.

Typical HOMERITIS!!

Woulda, shoulda, coulda!

Look, I'm a BIG Romo fan, but even I'll admit that
he's lacking in some important areas right now.
Fact is, watching the game with my nephew, who's
a HUGE Giants fan btw, the first thing he said when the
Giants got the ball in the 4th quarter was;
"Eli's gonna drive down for a TD"!
Of course I laughed at him, but sure enough, there was
the TD & 2 pt conversion!
What got me was his CONFIDENCE that Eli could absolutely get it done.
Now, like it or not, I just don't have that same confidence in
Romo. Mostly because he's yet to do it on a consistent basis!
I wish I had the same arrogance my nephew has, only about our QB!

I'm trying to be fair here.
The question to me is similiar to whether you'd prefer a Joe Montana or
a Dan Marino. One has the stats, the other was clutch & had all the rings!
In other words, to simply be in denial that Eli Manning is right now,
TODAY, right this minute, a better QB ie; a WINNER- than Romo,
is to not want to face facts!
Credit his team, running game, whatever!
Bottom line, in a 2-minute offense, I'd rather have Eli!
:dissgint:

 

[links18]

Yes, but only because I think Romo and his offensive mates are that good -- certainly not because I have a high opinion of the offensive coaching staff.

Which, while we're on the subject, I think has done an atrocious job of coaching Romo. You can't help but get the feeling sometimes that he gets no coaching, and that he's almost above coaching in the coaches' eyes.

Oh, and Wade Wilson is still on staff, right? It's funny how the old QB coach was notorious for developing Romo's game. I'm not even sure why Wilson is employed sometimes.

I think this is right. It's as if this coaching staff thinks they are Barry Switzer and Romo is Aikman. They treat his as if he is some sort of champion already. I think that attitude comes from Jerry. You never hear anyone in this organization call out Romo at all for his mistakes ever, while Barber and Newman get called out. Other players must be getting tired of that.....

 

[Clarkson]

Newsflash, just because he gets bailed out by a Cowboy recovering the fumble, doesnt change the fact that he fumbled the ball 3 damn times. He got bailed out by the officials pre-blowing a play dead on an early lost fumble as well.

I think he had 3 fumbles in those games you mentioned, all of the in the Arizona game, and one was lost. You said he had fumbilitis in the Washington and Arizona game. You were wrong.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

Typical HOMERITIS!!

Woulda, shoulda, coulda!

Look, I'm a BIG Romo fan, but even I'll admit that
he's lacking in some important areas right now.
Fact is, watching the game with my nephew, who's
a HUGE Giants fan btw, the first thing he said when the
Giants got the ball in the 4th quarter was;
"Eli's gonna drive down for a TD"!
Of course I laughed at him, but sure enough, there was
the TD & 2 pt conversion!
What got me was his CONFIDENCE that Eli could absolutely get it done.
Now, like it or not, I just don't have that same confidence in
Romo. Mostly because he's yet to do it on a consistent basis!
I wish I had the same arrogance my nephew has, only about our QB!

I'm trying to be fair here.
The question to me is similiar to whether you'd prefer a Joe Montana or
a Dan Marino. One has the stats, the other was clutch & had all the rings!
In other words, to simply be in denial that Eli Manning is right now,
TODAY, right this minute, a better QB ie; a WINNER- than Romo,
is to not want to face facts!
Credit his team, running game, whatever!
Bottom line, in a 2-minute offense, I'd rather have Eli!
:dissgint:

this site is funny. just last night i was called a romo hater after criticized romo and called others out for being homers. cats even wanted me banned now you got the nerve to call me a homer when im known for calling like it is with this team. comical!

obviously you wasnt watching that game very closely or dont remember what happened on that drive

my friend who is a giants fan at works rubs it in every chance he gets and several times him and these damn giants fans at my job have played the giants sb dvd

and even they said they should have lost that game twice to bad mistakes by eli but luckily the patriots didnt capitolize and eli eventually came through

do yourself a favor and rewatch that final drive and come back and talk to me. then tell me what i said was untrue cause you obviously dont remember how things played out. the truth is in the tape so you dont have to take my word for it,

 

[The Panch]

I think he had 3 fumbles in those games you mentioned, all of the in the Arizona game, and one was lost. You said he had fumbilitis in the Washington and Arizona game. You were wrong.

No I didnt, pay attention. The only time I mentioned Washington was Eli lighting em up for over 300 yards. I said AZ gave Romo the fumbles.


"and Arizona" not "and Washington"

 

[tyke1doe]

this site is funny. just last night i was called a romo hater after criticized romo and called others out for being homers. cats even wanted me banned now you got the nerve to call me a homer when im known for calling like it is with this team. comical!

obviously you wasnt watching that game very closely or dont remember what happened on that drive

my friend who is a giants fan at works rubs it in every chance he gets and several times him and these damn giants fans at my job have played the giants sb dvd

and even they said they should have lost that game twice to bad mistakes by eli but luckily the patriots didnt capitolize and eli eventually came through

do yourself a favor and rewatch that final drive and come back and talk to me. then tell me what i said was untrue cause you obviously dont remember how things played out. the truth is in the tape so you dont have to take my word for it,

I'll have you know that Joe Montana "almost" threw an interception in the second Super Bowl against the Bengals that if the defender had caught it, we wouldn't be talking about that drive.

No quarterback throws the ball perfectly all the time. Romo doesn't do it, Eli doesn't do it.

And the bottom line is ... WINNING

Eli won. His coaches put him in a situation to win - by providing him a running game.

Tony Romo loss. His coaches didn't put him in a situation to win.

That's really all that matters. Ask Dan Marino if he wouldn't give a portion of his stats back to have a championship ring.

I think it's ridiculous to devalue Eli just because he made some bad passes that should have been intercepted and hold that over his head as if that defines him.

It does not. The win defines him. And if Romo doesn't win a Super Bowl, I don't care how many game-winning plays you point to, he will always been considered a quarterback who couldn't win the big one. PERIOD!

 

[JVita17]

No doubt Eli played well in the playoffs.
But that can happen to anyone. It could easily happen to Romo this year. He doesn't make nearly the plays Romo makes, or even have to. His team ran for like 300 yards tonight.

So if Eli isnt better thanRomo the nthe Giants are flat out better than Dallas

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

So if Eli isnt better thanRomo the nthe Giants are flat out better than Dallas

I would say that they definitely have a better o-line and a running game which they use consistently and effectively. Their defense is consistently better than ours (the last few weeks, it's been closer). The only thing we actually do better than them on a consistent basis is pass the ball.

 

[Nexx]

i hate to have to agree with this guy but until romo shows otherwise, i cant really argue the other way.

 

[CutMeMick]

this site is funny. just last night i was called a romo hater after criticized romo and called others out for being homers. cats even wanted me banned now you got the nerve to call me a homer when im known for calling like it is with this team. comical!

obviously you wasnt watching that game very closely or dont remember what happened on that drive

my friend who is a giants fan at works rubs it in every chance he gets and several times him and these damn giants fans at my job have played the giants sb dvd

and even they said they should have lost that game twice to bad mistakes by eli but luckily the patriots didnt capitolize and eli eventually came through

do yourself a favor and rewatch that final drive and come back and talk to me. then tell me what i said was untrue cause you obviously dont remember how things played out. the truth is in the tape so you dont have to take my word for it,

Unreal!
Don't you get it?
Your point is entirely MOOT!

That would be the equivalent of me saying;
" Joe Montana SHOULDA been sacked, then Dwight Clark
wouldn't have caught that pass'!
Or how about;
"Jackie Smith SHOULDA caught that pass in the endzone against
the Steelers, then we WOULDA had 6 Lombardi Trophys"!

The bottom line is, Eli Manning was under center, & directed a
Super Bowl winning drive.
Nothing you, I, or anyone else says about that....EVER,
will change that fact!
Until Romo can say somethin similiar to that, then I'm sorry-
he's NOT "better" than Eli!
Furthermore, Eli has proved to be more "clutch" when it matters
than Tony Romo! PERIOD!
Those are the facts, like it or not!

 

[RainMan]

Unreal!
Don't you get it?
Your point is entirely MOOT!

That would be the equivalent of me saying;
" Joe Montana SHOULDA been sacked, then Dwight Clark
wouldn't have caught that pass'!
Or how about;
"Jackie Smith SHOULDA caught that pass in the endzone against
the Steelers, then we WOULDA had 6 Lombardi Trophys"!

The bottom line is, Eli Manning was under center, & directed a
Super Bowl winning drive.
Nothing you, I, or anyone else says about that....EVER,
will change that fact!
Until Romo can say somethin similiar to that, then I'm sorry-
he's NOT "better" than Eli!
Furthermore, Eli has proved to be more "clutch" when it matters
than Tony Romo! PERIOD!
Those are the facts, like it or not!

I agree.

Again, I just find it funny that a fan base that long had to hear the "Aikman is overrated -- anyone could have won with that team!" rubbish would suddenly do an about-face and support this misguided mindset.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

I'll have you know that Joe Montana "almost" threw an interception in the second Super Bowl against the Bengals that if the defender had caught it, we wouldn't be talking about that drive.

No quarterback throws the ball perfectly all the time. Romo doesn't do it, Eli doesn't do it.

And the bottom line is ... WINNING

Eli won. His coaches put him in a situation to win - by providing him a running game.

Tony Romo loss. His coaches didn't put him in a situation to win.

That's really all that matters. Ask Dan Marino if he wouldn't give a portion of his stats back to have a championship ring.

I think it's ridiculous to devalue Eli just because he made some bad passes that should have been intercepted and hold that over his head as if that defines him.

It does not. The win defines him. And if Romo doesn't win a Super Bowl, I don't care how many game-winning plays you point to, he will always been considered a quarterback who couldn't win the big one. PERIOD!

who said a qb always throw the perfect pass? show me that in my post

then you say i shouldnt hold eli's poor pass attempts on that entire drive that should have easily cost the giants yet you want me to overlook like it never happened and give him praise because the pats choked. oh ok that makes sense

2nd what the hell does joe montana have to do with this lol maybe you didnt see the argument i was having with the other member. he was bragging about how good eli looked on the last drive of the patriots game. which is why i mentioned not once but twice did eli throw what should have been picks to end the game. that finally drive if anything was pure luck. down to the play where the pats idiot lb instead of wrapping eli up tried to one-arm him down for the sack by slinging him by his jersey, thus allowing ahim to sling a pass to david tyree to catch on his helmet! if hes trying to argue romo being better then eli i think thats the wrong drive to mention