David Irving

Nightman · Dec 1, 2018

He is gravy this year and gone next....whatever we get is a bonus
Too much like RoMcClain

cern · Dec 1, 2018

cowboy_ron said:
He should be gone after the season I would think.

He hasn't done anything to increase his value to any team this year. Guessing his future is difficult. Not likely any other team will be as understanding. Que sera, sera.

cern · Dec 1, 2018

gjkoeppen said:
Tell me all the players who had high ankle sprains that never missed a game. High ankle sprains commonly take 5 - 8 weeks before players come back. That's an injury that if rushed back just get's reinjured easily where the player then misses even more time.
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None I've ever heard.

DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 1, 2018

gjkoeppen said:
Tell me all the players who had high ankle sprains that never missed a game. High ankle sprains commonly take 5 - 8 weeks before players come back. That's an injury that if rushed back just get's reinjured easily where the player then misses even more time.
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We had Terrell Owens come back in 2 or 3 and Terence Newman went through with cortisone shots one year. Never said it was not dangerous and obviously any reinjury to a high ankle sprain could devastating.

ultron · Dec 1, 2018

glimmerman said:
Sign him before season ends while nobody wants him. Incentive based with clauses to get out of it. Young kid with massive upside. Don’t sign him with expectations of him being there.

I like it

gjkoeppen · Dec 1, 2018

cern said:
He hasn't done anything to increase his value to any team this year. Guessing his future is difficult. Not likely any other team will be as understanding. Que sera, sera.

I think the other 31 teams are well aware of what he can bring when healthy. It will depend on how many are willing to make an offer and risk him missing games from injury and/or suspension. If the Cowboys loaded up a contract that the majority of his salary is based on him having to play at least 14 games along with some performance incentives, I would be OK with that.

cern · Dec 1, 2018

DallasDW00ds0n said:
We had Terrell Owens come back in 2 or 3 and Terence Newman went through with cortisone shots one year. Never said it was not dangerous and obviously any reinjury to a high ankle sprain could devastating.

Recovery is dependent on the severity of the sprain. Some are worse than others.

gjkoeppen · Dec 1, 2018

DallasDW00ds0n said:
We had Terrell Owens come back in 2 or 3 and Terence Newman went through with cortisone shots one year. Never said it was not dangerous and obviously any reinjury to a high ankle sprain could devastating.

I think you're confusing Owens when he was with the eagles and the Cowboys broke his leg in week 14 and he later played in their playoff game. I've also never heard of cortisone shots for a high ankle sprain and don't remember Newman doing that. Cortisone is generally use to help control inflammation like in the back like when Aikman had cortisone shots. Inflammation is not sprains. Also they generally only give 1 shot in a 6 week period so that to also makes me doubt that Newman had shots. Akiman had one in training camp and then about week 5 or 6 and then later in the season and even though he wanted another one they wouldn't do it.
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DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 1, 2018

gjkoeppen said:
I think you're confusing Owens when he was with the eagles and the Cowboys broke his leg in week 14 and he later played in their playoff game. I've also never heard of cortisone shots for a high ankle sprain and don't remember Newman doing that. Cortisone is generally use to help control inflammation like in the back like when Aikman had cortisone shots. Inflammation is not sprains. Also they generally only give 1 shot in a 6 week period so that to also makes me doubt that Newman had shots. Akiman had one in training camp and then about week 5 or 6 and then later in the season and even though he wanted another one they wouldn't do it.
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Nope TO had a high ankle end of the 2007 season; he swore up and down he could have played the next week. Bragged about sleeping in his air chamber, ran around the field in warm ups, and started for the playoff game. If you cant remember how the 2007 ended then Im not surprised you dont remember Newmans injury either.

Regardless, this thread was about Irving coming back and how exciting it will be. It was not intended to be in detail examining high ankle sprains.

DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 1, 2018

cern said:
Recovery is dependent on the severity of the sprain. Some are worse than others.

You dont say.

Bullflop · Dec 1, 2018

Realistically, I don't anticipate Irving coming in and dominating right off the bat. That's assuming he's due to return to the active lineup at all. If so, I'd say he'll be used, at best, in a rotational role until he shows he's 100% back and totally ready to outdo those who have already replaced him in the lineup.

cern · Dec 1, 2018

DallasDW00ds0n said:
You dont say.

Yes, really. You are correct in that owens suffered a high ankle sprain in 2007 while with the cowboys. He also sprained his ankle while with the eagles. I think in 2004. Caused him to miss last 2 games of season.

DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 1, 2018

Bullflop said:
Realistically, I don't anticipate Irving coming in and dominating right off the bat. That's assuming he's due to return to the active lineup at all. If so, I'd say he'll be used, at best, in a rotational role until he shows he's 100% back and totally ready to outdo those who have already replaced him in the lineup.

Thats true. Ive thought that as well, Im not sure Irving could leap anyone right now.

tyke1doe · Dec 1, 2018

gjkoeppen said:
Tell me all the players who had high ankle sprains that never missed a game. High ankle sprains commonly take 5 - 8 weeks before players come back. That's an injury that if rushed back just get's reinjured easily where the player then misses even more time.
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I've heard high ankle sprains are even worse than having a broken ankle.

tyke1doe · Dec 1, 2018

DallasDW00ds0n said:
We had Terrell Owens come back in 2 or 3 and Terence Newman went through with cortisone shots one year. Never said it was not dangerous and obviously any reinjury to a high ankle sprain could devastating.

Are you talking about when Roy Williams broke Terrell Owen's ankle?

Willfreedom909 · Dec 1, 2018

When Irving comes back him and d-law are going to make nfl teams require cat scans on the side of the field

waving monkey · Dec 1, 2018

ultron said:
has a few games left with us fellas.

I anticipate him balling out

Willfreedom909 · Dec 1, 2018

cern said:
Yes, really. You are correct in that owens suffered a high ankle sprain in 2007 while with the cowboys. He also sprained his ankle while with the eagles. I think in 2004. Caused him to miss last 2 games of season.

T.O really is the GOAT

cern · Dec 1, 2018

Willfreedom909 said:
T.O really is the GOAT

No popularity awards. But he lit it up on the field.

DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 2, 2018

tyke1doe said:
Are you talking about when Roy Williams broke Terrell Owen's ankle?

No, Im talking about when TO got a high ankle sprain in 2007. Its crazy to think that 2007 season was 11 years ago!

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