Daytona 500 postponed until 7pm Monday night

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This 500 has been outstanding....why?

cause thanks to the beginning of the race, we don't have to deal with the Danica Patrick watch all race. Johnson is out. Gordon is out. Jr. is in strong contention. Ok, the Montoya wreck is a never been seen before incident.

i just hope they can get back to racing so Jr can get back to victory lane where he hasn't been in what seems like a decade.
 

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jimmy40;4431947 said:
getting everything handed to her on a silver platter because of her looks is not a cool story.

Oh please. She was a winner in Indy car and she showed some good skill level in Nationwide. She has earned a shot more than some.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432002 said:
Oh please. She was a winner in Indy car and she showed some good skill level in Nationwide. She has earned a shot more than some.

How many races did she win in Indy? And she was driving for one of the top teams...
 

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Cythim;4432007 said:
How many races did she win in Indy? And she was driving for one of the top teams...

One.

She averaged top ten finishes seven years.

If you understand racing a little you would know you don't judge a driver simply by the number of wins. There is more to a drivers prowess than just that.

Jr. Has done next to nothing for the last few years.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432035 said:
One.

She averaged top ten finishes seven years.

If you understand racing a little you would know you don't judge a driver simply by the number of wins. There is more to a drivers prowess than just that.

Jr. Has done next to nothing for the last few years.

You specifically called her a winner when she won ONCE.

If you understood racing a little you would know that a top 10 in a field of 26 cars (half the size of NASCAR) is not a great feat, especially when driving for Andretti.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432035 said:
One.

She averaged top ten finishes seven years.

If you understand racing a little you would know you don't judge a driver simply by the number of wins. There is more to a drivers prowess than just that.

Jr. Has done next to nothing for the last few years.

I'm not sure why you made that Jr. comment. If I had to rank the top 15 drivers in cup, Jr. wouldn't be on the list. If he was, he'd be at the very bottom.

You're talking about a guy who has 1 win in the last 5 years and that was a fuel mileage win. Despite driving in top equipment for much of that time.
 

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Cythim;4432043 said:
You specifically called her a winner when she won ONCE.

If you understood racing a little you would know that a top 10 in a field of 26 cars (half the size of NASCAR) is not a great feat, especially when driving for Andretti.

Oh I understand it plenty. To deny she has skills is simply absurd and demonstrates a profound ignorance of racing.

And she is a winner. She has won. By definition she is a winner. Just keep on hating. If thing Tony Stewart would waste his time on her without any skills you are nuts. You obviously don't know Stewart.
 

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This is the weirdest speedweeks ever. Just call it a night and go racing for real next week. This plate racing is an abortion.
 

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Risen Star;4432054 said:
I'm not sure why you made that Jr. comment. If I had to rank the top 15 drivers in cup, Jr. wouldn't be on the list. If he was, he'd be at the very bottom.

You're talking about a guy who has 1 win in the last 5 years and that was a fuel mileage win. Despite driving in top equipment for much of that time.

That was my point exactly. People are complaining about the attention Danica is getting because they don't think she has any skills to be here. By comparison Jr. Has had the same kind of troubles getting into victory lane with all of the benefits afforded to NASCAR royalty with great equipment.

That's why I made the comment.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432055 said:
Oh I understand it plenty. To deny she has skills is simply absurd and demonstrates a profound ignorance of racing.

And she is a winner. She has won. By definition she is a winner. Just keep on hating. If thing Tony Stewart would waste his time on her without any skills you are nuts. You obviously don't know Stewart.

She would not be in the ride she's in now if she wasn't a woman. She's got some talent but the teams she's raced for are significantly better than her performance on the track.

As for Stewart, it's real simple. Danica has a sponsor devoted to her. That's big in this economy. And the reason that sponsor is so devoted to her and willing to go where ever she wants to race is because she's a female driver.

That doesn't mean she doesn't have talent. It means she doesn't have anywhere near the talent to attract such attention and opportunity.

Much like, ya know, Dale Earnhardt Jr.
 

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Risen Star;4432056 said:
This is the weirdest speedweeks ever. Just call it a night and go racing for real next week. This plate racing is an abortion.

They couldn't control the weather and they couldn't control a guy slamming into an track dryer. But man, you are right, it's been a weird Speedweeks.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432055 said:
Oh I understand it plenty. To deny she has skills is simply absurd and demonstrates a profound ignorance of racing.

And she is a winner. She has won. By definition she is a winner. Just keep on hating. If thing Tony Stewart would waste his time on her without any skills you are nuts. You obviously don't know Stewart.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. She wouldn't have made it into the top series of racing if she didn't have some skill. I'm not saying she doesn't have some skill, I am telling you she isn't worth all of the attention she gets. It is great that she is breaking the gender barrier but I am not going to praise her or care about her when she has yet to prove herself. She was just above average in a 2nd rate series and has yet to blow anyone's doors off in NASCAR. When she starts competing at the top I will start to care.
 

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Risen Star;4432060 said:
She would not be in the ride she's in now if she wasn't a woman. She's got some talent but the teams she's raced for are significantly better than her performance on the track.

As for Stewart, it's real simple. Danica has a sponsor devoted to her. That's big in this economy. And the reason that sponsor is so devoted to her and willing to go where ever she wants to race is because she's a female driver.

That doesn't mean she doesn't have talent. It means she doesn't have anywhere near the talent to attract such attention and opportunity.

Much like, ya know, Dale Earnhardt Jr.

Well she certainly has a lot to learn in cup but from the looks at the in car camera during the Jimmy Johnson wreck, she may be teaching these cup guys a thing or two.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432059 said:
That was my point exactly. People are complaining about the attention Danica is getting because they don't think she has any skills to be here. By comparison Jr. Has had the same kind of troubles getting into victory lane with all of the benefits afforded to NASCAR royalty with great equipment.

That's why I made the comment.

It still doesn't make sense to me. As much as I think Jr. is a completely overrated driver, he's won 18 cup races over his career. Danica has won once at a top level.

Simply put, I've never seen a driver attract this much attention and have this much opportunity with so little success. I'm guessing that's because she's female.
 

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I actually feel bad for Dave Blaney right now if they get this back under way, and it looks like they will.

My money is on Harvick if they finish the 40 remaining laps.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4432067 said:
Well she certainly has a lot to learn in cup but from the looks at the in car camera during the Jimmy Johnson wreck, she may be teaching these cup guys a thing or two.

Yes. Cup drivers didn't know to let go of the steering wheel until Danica Patrick arrived.
 

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Cythim;4432065 said:
Now you are putting words in my mouth. She wouldn't have made it into the top series of racing if she didn't have some skill. I'm not saying she doesn't have some skill, I am telling you she isn't worth all of the attention she gets. It is great that she is breaking the gender barrier but I am not going to praise her or care about her when she has yet to prove herself. She was just above average in a 2nd rate series and has yet to blow anyone's doors off in NASCAR. When she starts competing at the top I will start to care.

No one is saying she is challenging king Richard for greatness. But she certainly has fans and she is, at least at this point, a novelty and fans are interested so they will feature her. She was one of the top stories coming into Daytona week.
 

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Risen Star;4432073 said:
Yes. Cup drivers didn't know to let go of the steering wheel until Danica Patrick arrived.

Well apparently you didn't hear what others have said so, so be it.
 

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Hostile;4432072 said:
I actually feel bad for Dave Blaney right now if they get this back under way, and it looks like they will.

My money is on Harvick if they finish the 40 remaining laps.

The way this week has gone there is no way I could make a pick.
 
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