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xwalker;5095361 said:
SF was the 4th best rushing team but only the 11th best
passing team during the regular season.

Baltimore was the 11th best rushing team but only the 16th
best passing team during the regular season.

It's not about where you rank as a passing team there's other elements involved but in todays NFL most playoff games and SB's come down to a QB having to make plays in the passing game for their team to win. Baltimore won the SB because Flacco stepped up his game from previous seasons. In the past it was the Ravens defense that carried them. Flacco had to be better in 2013 because the Ravens defense wasn't as good as in years past. There wasn't a QB in the playoffs last season that performed as well as Flacco who put up over 1100 yards and 11 TD's and no turnovers.

It was the same thing in the playoffs in 2011 no QB in the playoffs produced like Eli. Last years SB came down to a duel between Flacco and Kaepernick. The Ravens defense got riddled in that game for over 300 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards but the game came down to Flacco's performance vs Kaepernick's. The final seconds down to Kaepernick having to throw a TD for SF to pull the game out and it didn't happen. SB's come down to QB's having make plays.
 

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RW Hitman;5095149 said:
ONLY because the NFL ties the hands of the CBs and anyone else who dares to actually play what was once football and defend against a WR anymore.... with all the new rules to make this new game some call football "fun", well I would say it is proven to be not so fun hence the NFL abbreviations No Fun League

I miss football when the game was determined by the players and where players were actually allowed to play football. Get physical, and make WRs earn their stats

oh well, majority out there already know this so I will get off my rant.


Personally I enjoy watching a pass happy league as opposed to 4 yards and a cloud of dust. Several rules were designed years ago to open up the passing game but some of the new player safety rules have also opened up the passing game. I know the league wants to protect the health of players but some of the player safety rules are getting ridiculous. They're forcing players to think rather react and it's taken away from some of their aggressiveness. Possible fines and suspensions will do that.
 

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KJJ;5095459 said:
It's not about where you rank as a passing team there's other elements involved but in todays NFL most playoff games and SB's come down to a QB having to make plays in the passing game for their team to win. Baltimore won the SB because Flacco stepped up his game from previous seasons. In the past it was the Ravens defense that carried them. Flacco had to be better in 2013 because the Ravens defense wasn't as good as in years past. There wasn't a QB in the playoffs last season that performed as well as Flacco who put up over 1100 yards and 11 TD's and no turnovers.

It was the same thing in the playoffs in 2011 no QB in the playoffs produced like Eli. Last years SB came down to a duel between Flacco and Kaepernick. The Ravens defense got riddled in that game for over 300 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards but the game came down to Flacco's performance vs Kaepernick's. The final seconds down to Kaepernick having to throw a TD for SF to pull the game out and it didn't happen. SB's come down to QB's having make plays.

and it is easier for a QB to make plays when he has a running game he can count on, defense have to respect the run they don't just go after the QB. Yes QB are important no question but when a offense is 1 dimensional it is damn easy for any defense to know what you are going to do. Teams have to respect the Ravens run game same with SF you don’t just go after the QB.

It is too funny to see so many act as if the running game played no part it was all the QB making plays well it is not it is an offense run and pass working efficiently in keeping defense guessing
 

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Doomsday101;5095471 said:
and it is easier for a QB to make plays when he has a running game he can count on, defense have to respect the run they don't just go after the QB. Yes QB are important no question but when a offense is 1 dimensional it is damn easy for any defense to know what you are going to do. Teams have to respect the Ravens run game same with SF you don’t just go after the QB.

It is too funny to see so many act as if the running game played no part it was all the QB making plays well it is not it is an offense run and pass working efficiently in keeping defense guessing


Granted having some resemblance of a running game would help any team but the Packers were one dimensional in 2010 living off the arm of Aaron Rodgers and won the SB. He has no problem making plays without a running game. The Packers running game ranked 24th and their OL got Rodgers sacked 31 times that season. In 2011 the Packers went 15-1 living off the arm of Aaron Rodgers. He was sacked 36 times that season the same number as Romo last season.

Again the Packers had no running game and what knocked them out of the playoffs was Rodgers having an off game and Eli Manning having his A game. NE went 17-0 off the arm of Brady in 07. Brady having an off SB and Eli having an MVP performance was the difference in that game. Last season the top 2 rushing teams Washington and Minnesota were both knocked out in the first round of the playoffs because neither teams QB was effective. When it gets down to playoff time a QB has to be on their game or it's over. The game has changed a lot the past decade with all the rule changes.

It use to be that playing great defense and having a strong running game could win a championship even with a bus driving QB. We're now seeing defenses ranked in the mid to upper 20's competing in the SB. The Ravens running game ranked 11th during the regular season and 5th amongst playoff teams. It was Flacco's playoff and SB performances that won a championship for Baltimore last season. This is why Flacco became the highest paid player in NFL history and QB's are the highest paid players.
 

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KJJ;5095498 said:
Granted having some resemblance of a running game would help any team but the Packers were one dimensional in 2010 living off the arm of Aaron Rodgers and won the SB. Their running game ranked 24th and the Packers OL got Rodgers sacked 31 times that season. In 2011 the Packers went 15-1 living off the arm of Aaron Rodgers. He was sacked 36 times that season the same number as Romo last season. Again the Packers had no running game and what knocked them out of the playoffs was Rodgers having an off game and Eli Manning having his A game. NE went 17-0 off the arm of Brady in 07. Brady having an off SB and Eli having an MVP performance was the difference in that game. Last season the top 2 rushing teams Washington and Minnesota were both knocked out in the first round of the playoffs because neither teams QB was effective.

When it gets down to playoff time a QB has to be on their game or it's over. The game has changed a lot the past decade with all the rule changes. It use to be that playing great defense and having a strong running game could win a championship even with a bus driving QB. We're now seeing defenses ranked in the mid to upper 20's competing in the SB. The Ravens running game ranked 11th during the regular season and 5th amongst playoff teams. It was Flacco's playoff and SB performances that won a championship for Baltimore last season. This is why Flacco became the highest paid player in NFL history and QB's are the highest paid players.

Yet Starks did very well in the post season with the run game fopr GB and gosh GB has not won one since, no matter how great Rodgers is he is not going to win without others be it in the run game or the defense same with Peyton Manning he has 1 SB? so what he forgot how to play the game? :laugh2:

I'm not saying passing is not important clearly it is and for some teams the run game is a bit more important than it is for other teams but any time a team can use the run and pass effectively it keeps the defense off balance.

As for defense it still takes a defense to go out and make plays the year GB won it they lead the league in sacks and turnovers. NO and Brees the Saints lead the league in take aways. It is not just the fricken QB it is still the team that wins games. No QB is going out there and winning single handley it take others to win it. That QB depends on a lot of people doing their job and when they don't that QB will fail. This game has not changed that much and QB being the highest paid? that is old news QB have been the highest paid for years.

I'm not going to knock Flacco I think he is a good QB he sure as hell is not the best QB in this league he is not Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers but then again it was more about the Ravens being the better team not who has the better QB
 

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It was probably in the organizations best interest to have someone announce this, rather than finding out by trial & era. If for no other reason than fans, lots of them, want change. And a new play caller to a lot of fans is Jerry attempting something different.

Otherwise, it's no big deal who calls the plays, I just want a smooth looking offense, and for that matter, defense and special teams.
 

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Doomsday101;5095506 said:
Yet Starks did very well in the post season with the run game fopr GB and gosh GB has not won one since, no matter how great Rodgers is he is not going to win without others be it in the run game or the defense same with Peyton Manning he has 1 SB? so what he forgot how to play the game? :laugh2:

I'm not saying passing is not important clearly it is and for some teams the run game is a bit more important than it is for other teams but any time a team can use the run and pass effectively it keeps the defense off balance.

As for defense it still takes a defense to go out and make plays the year GB won it they lead the league in sacks and turnovers. NO and Brees the Saints lead the league in take aways. It is not just the fricken QB it is still the team that wins games. No QB is going out there and winning single handley it take others to win it. That QB depends on a lot of people doing their job and when they don't that QB will fail. This game has not changed that much and QB being the highest paid? that is old news QB have been the highest paid for years.

I'm not going to knock Flacco I think he is a good QB he sure as hell is not the best QB in this league he is not Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers but then again it was more about the Ravens being the better team not who has the better QB

Of course it takes a "team" to be successful but the fact is the NFL is a pass happy QB driven league. Care to argue that? There's a lot of factors to winning games during the regular season but my point is when you get to the playoffs a QB has to be on their game or you're going home. Whichever QB plays the best in a playoff game that QB's team usually wins the game. That's a statement I would have no problem backing up with an assortment of stats. Last season GB ranked 11th in rushing which was much higher than they ranked the previous 2 seasons but still got knocked off in the playoffs by SF due to Kaepernick putting up well over 400 yards with his arm and legs. He outplayed Rodgers in that game and that was the difference in a very high scoring affair.

No one is saying it doesn't take a good defense or running game to be successful but the fact is once you reach postseason most games are determined by how well the QB plays. Teams use the pass like the run with short passes. To win consistently in the NFL you have to score double digit points most weeks and to score a lot of points you have to pass the ball. Minnesota managed only 10 wins last season with a back who put up over 2100 yards rushing. Minnesota ended up being knocked out of the playoffs in the first round due to a horrible passing performance by Joe Webb. Webb only passed for 180 yards. He completed a pathetic 36% of his ducks and his passer rating was only 54.9.

Adrian Peterson's 99 yards rushing couldn't offset Webb's horrible performance. Peterson averaged 4.5 a carry vs GB but the game came down to Rodgers well outperforming Webb. The facts are the Ravens got to the SB and won it due to Flacco's postseason performance. Ray Rice only averaged 3.6 yards in the playoffs. Rice only produced 59 yards rushing in the SB averaging a pathetic 3.0 per carry. The Ravens defense got shredded in the SB and they had little running game from any of their backs. That game was won due to Flacco's MVP performance.
 

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Of course it takes a "team" to be successful but the fact is the NFL is a pass happy QB driven league. Care to argue that? There's a lot of factors to winning games during the regular season but my point is when you get to the playoffs a QB has to be on their game or you're going home. Whichever QB plays the best in a playoff game that QB's team usually wins the game. That's a statement I would have no problem backing up with an assortment of stats. Last season GB ranked 11th in rushing which was much higher than they ranked the previous 2 seasons but still got knocked off in the playoffs by SF due to Kaepernick putting up well over 400 yards with his arm and legs. He outplayed Rodgers in that game and that was the difference in a very high scoring game.

No one is saying it doesn't take a good defense or running game to be successful but the fact is once you reach postseason most games are determined by how well the QB plays. Teams use the pass like the run with short passes. To win consistently in the NFL you have to score double digit points most weeks and to score a lot of points you have to pass the ball. Minnesota managed only 10 wins last season with a back who put up over 2100 yards rushing. Minnesota ended up being knocked out of the playoffs in the first round due to a horrible passing performance by Joe Webb. Webb only passed for 180 yards. He completed a pathetic 36% of his ducks and his passer rating was only 54.9.

Adrian Peterson's 99 yards rushing couldn't offset Webb's horrible performance. Peterson averaged 4.5 a carry vs GB but the game came down to Rodgers well outperforming Webb. The facts are the Ravens got to the SB and won it due to Flacco's postseason performance. Ray Rice only averaged 3.6 yards in the playoffs. Rice only produced 59 yards rushing in the SB averaging a pathetic 3.0 per carry. The Ravens defense got shredded in the SB and they had little running game from any of their backs. That game was won due to Flacco's MVP performance.

I agree QB is important only stating that the job as QB becomes easier when the offense can produce overall. As for the Ravens they sacked the QB 3 times and int him as well. They also had a big stand late in the game. Yes SF made big plays in the game but defense still had an impact in the outcome. Ravens also never got away from keeping a balance on offense rushing it 32 times with 33 passes.

SF Gore was over 100 yards and a TD so their running game was part of keeping them in the game.

That game was won because overall the Ravens including Flacco made plays. It aslo helped that Boldin made some big time catches in that game. Again not taking away from QB but telling me Flacco won the MVP? who cares that award is a joke to begin with vast majority of the time the QB is handed the MVP be it pro or college but it does not take away from the play of others who made major contribution to the win.
 

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KJJ;5095550 said:
Of course it takes a "team" to be successful but the fact is the NFL is a pass happy QB driven league. Care to argue that? There's a lot of factors to winning games during the regular season but my point is when you get to the playoffs a QB has to be on their game or you're going home. Whichever QB plays the best in a playoff game that QB's team usually wins the game. That's a statement I would have no problem backing up with an assortment of stats. Last season GB ranked 11th in rushing which was much higher than they ranked the previous 2 seasons but still got knocked off in the playoffs by SF due to Kaepernick putting up well over 400 yards with his arm and legs. He outplayed Rodgers in that game and that was the difference in a very high scoring affair.

No one is saying it doesn't take a good defense or running game to be successful but the fact is once you reach postseason most games are determined by how well the QB plays. Teams use the pass like the run with short passes. To win consistently in the NFL you have to score double digit points most weeks and to score a lot of points you have to pass the ball. Minnesota managed only 10 wins last season with a back who put up over 2100 yards rushing. Minnesota ended up being knocked out of the playoffs in the first round due to a horrible passing performance by Joe Webb. Webb only passed for 180 yards. He completed a pathetic 36% of his ducks and his passer rating was only 54.9.

Adrian Peterson's 99 yards rushing couldn't offset Webb's horrible performance. Peterson averaged 4.5 a carry vs GB but the game came down to Rodgers well outperforming Webb. The facts are the Ravens got to the SB and won it due to Flacco's postseason performance. Ray Rice only averaged 3.6 yards in the playoffs. Rice only produced 59 yards rushing in the SB averaging a pathetic 3.0 per carry. The Ravens defense got shredded in the SB and they had little running game from any of their backs. That game was won due to Flacco's MVP performance.

Why does it have to be an argument?

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Doomsday101;5095557 said:
I agree QB is important only stating that the job as QB becomes easier when the offense can produce overall. As for the Ravens they sacked the QB 3 times and int him as well. They also had a big stand late in the game. Yes SF made big plays in the game but defense still had an impact in the outcome. Ravens also never got away from keeping a balance on offense rushing it 32 times with 33 passes.

SF Gore was over 100 yards and a TD so their running game was part of keeping them in the game.

That game was won because overall the Ravens including Flacco made plays. It aslo helped that Boldin made some big time catches in that game. Again not taking away from QB but telling me Flacco won the MVP? who cares that award is a joke to begin with vast majority of the time the QB is handed the MVP be it pro or college but it does not take away from the play of others who made major contribution to the win.

This post reminds me of how lots of people thought that RG2-1/2 was the one that beat the Cowboys in their last game when it was really Morris that got the job done, but that fact will be overlooked.
 

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5Stars;5095559 said:
Why does it have to be an argument?

:cool:

It just does, the QB is the only position that matters, the rest are just out there watching evidently. Eli throws up a prayer and he gets the accolades becase his WR made an outstanding play but hey it was all eli to hell with all the other players.

QB no doubt can lose a game quicker than any position on the field because he is handling the ball on every offensive snap for for him to have success it takes others stepping up and making the plays as well. Those WR have to be able to run the routs and make the catch at times these catches are unbelieveable and they save that QB butt because of the outstanding play but in the eyes of some evidently it is just the QB
 

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5Stars;5095560 said:
This post reminds me of how lots of people thought that RG2-1/2 was the one that beat the Cowboys in their last game when it was really Morris that got the job done, but that fact will be overlooked.

Morris had 200 yards in the game yeah I would say he played a key role.

Again I don't diminish the position of the QB it is very important but to win SB it takes a host of others getting out there and making plays. QB can control so much but unless others step up he will not win.
 

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Clove;5095508 said:
It was probably in the organizations best interest to have someone announce this, rather than finding out by trial & era. If for no other reason than fans, lots of them, want change. And a new play caller to a lot of fans is Jerry attempting something different.

Otherwise, it's no big deal who calls the plays, I just want a smooth looking offense, and for that matter, defense and special teams.

No well run organization makes decisions based on fan input.

I don't think that's what happened here anyway. If they were worried about the fan outcry, they would have announced it in February when it was the loudest.
 

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Doomsday101;5095564 said:
Morris had 200 yards in the game yeah I would say he played a key role.

Again I don't diminish the position of the QB it is very important but to win SB it takes a host of others getting out there and making plays. QB can control so much but unless others step up he will not win.

Are you sure, because if the QB passes the ball without an int, they surely will win the game!
 

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5Stars;5095566 said:
Are you sure, because if the QB passes the ball with out an int, they surely will win the game!

Well turnovers do play a key role. QB can't win it by himself but they can lose a game faster than any other position if they are carless with the ball.
 

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I guess Jacoby Jones kickoff return for a TD to open the 3rd qrt had no impact on the game?
 

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Doomsday101;5095572 said:
I guess Jacoby Jones kickoff return for a TD to open the 3rd qrt had no impact on the game?

Not really, it was all Flacco by not throwing an int.

I wish I could find another post made by someone that said something to the effect that the ratio of pass to runs was damn near even, but that got shot down as some fancy stat and did mean nothing. It was the QB because of the pass happy league that won the game.

So confusing...
 

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Its official now, so I'll ask again, if the offense struggles, who gets the blame? Bill or Red?
Keep in mind we've just promoted an OL coach who couldn't even get his players to quit jumping off-sides.:eek::
 

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noshame;5095582 said:
Its official now, so I'll ask again, if the offense struggles, who gets the blame? Bill or Red?
Keep in mind we've just promoted an OL coach who couldn't even get his players to quit jumping off-sides.:eek::

Everyone...the coaches and the players.

Was that a trick question?

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Doomsday101;5095572 said:
I guess Jacoby Jones kickoff return for a TD to open the 3rd qrt had no impact on the game?

Of course it had an impact but Flacco had the biggest impact that's why he was named the games MVP and not Jacoby Jones. Funny how FANS on this board can't give another QB the credit they deserve for their team winning a championship.
 
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