News: DC: Sham: Don’t Jump Off Just Yet; Season Is Still New, So Let’s Take A Longer View

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This is media hype at its best and a bold face lie.

We already know a few things right out the gate.

1) the 2017 Oline is not the 16 Oline. We have issues on the line and 2 coaches who are ok with it. Instead of looking for solutions they are hoping the band aid falls in their lap. Huge mistake.

2) you have an issue with your Rb thats not being handled well on both sides.

3) inactives, why did we carry 3 RBs and a FB if they arent going to be used or used correctly.

4) Jeff Heath is not good, suck it Jeff Heath fans. He is very good in a limited role, hes not good at starter role. The end.

5) Your defense sucks, play the rookies, shake Rods hand and tell him best of luck at the end of the season. Nothing more you are getting out of him and i doubt he ll take the DL job and before anyone says Eflerbus or whatever, NO, just no. technically we should leave it to the new HC, but thats not happening. Go out of organization and get a DC.

6) Carrying 3 QBS, waste of roster spot. cut Kellen Moore, play Cooper if Dak goes down. End of Dak, end of season. doesnt matter anyway, again JC is just showing us he cant do the job if you need a reminder of this, see the Rams.

7) Byron Jones, find a new spot for him or put him in limited roles. Suck it Byron fans, hes not great at a safety starter level.

8) Jason Garrett, Jag coach, want to argue it, post his HC record. Suck it, the argument is over.

8 things off the top of my head, making this writer a pom pom writer for his own articles and offering nothing, not even something as basic as "breathing is important" or "water is wet" i would have more respect if he just wrote that and submitted it.
 

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This is media hype at its best and a bold face lie.

We already know a few things right out the gate.

1) the 2017 Oline is not the 16 Oline. We have issues on the line and 2 coaches who are ok with it. Instead of looking for solutions they are hoping the band aid falls in their lap. Huge mistake.

2) you have an issue with your Rb thats not being handled well on both sides.

3) inactives, why did we carry 3 RBs and a FB if they arent going to be used or used correctly.

4) Jeff Heath is not good, suck it Jeff Heath fans. He is very good in a limited role, hes not good at starter role. The end.

5) Your defense sucks, play the rookies, shake Rods hand and tell him best of luck at the end of the season. Nothing more you are getting out of him and i doubt he ll take the DL job and before anyone says Eflerbus or whatever, NO, just no. technically we should leave it to the new HC, but thats not happening. Go out of organization and get a DC.

6) Carrying 3 QBS, waste of roster spot. cut Kellen Moore, play Cooper if Dak goes down. End of Dak, end of season. doesnt matter anyway, again JC is just showing us he cant do the job if you need a reminder of this, see the Rams.

7) Byron Jones, find a new spot for him or put him in limited roles. Suck it Byron fans, hes not great at a safety starter level.

8) Jason Garrett, Jag coach, want to argue it, post his HC record. Suck it, the argument is over.

8 things off the top of my head, making this writer a pom pom writer for his own articles and offering nothing, not even something as basic as "breathing is important" or "water is wet" i would have more respect if he just wrote that and submitted it.
I agree with most of what you said :D
 

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Agree if Rod can't get this D playing very well soon, or at least in a playoff run, and helps us make the playoffs, he needs to go.

A playoff caliber D keeps him for one more year. And yes, plans do not promote Eberflis to DC. It shows a weak coach and GM by doing the same scheme over and over.
If a DC is changed, the entire D coaching staff needs changed.c!aybe keep Jackson for the dBs he made some difference last year. But let a new DC determine that.

I don't think Leon Lett is as good of a coach as people think. Why are the DL developing better and quickly.

Yes still a wait and see...but don't we say this every year. I know I have, but time to stop saying it and instead need to see results. This 8 games to gel stuff....should have been gelled last year....but we do have a new secondary so see what happens with that.
 

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well he works for the team so I under stand the article I think he is wrong but lots of other fans don't when they lose to the packers they will 2 and 3 if they are not playing better by the time they get to some of the teams they have to play in the middle of the season its will be over pretty quick but I didn't think they were a playoff team to start in with I just don't think the defense or the coaching is good enough the hc history has proven that he cant put together two playoff seasons in a row
 

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well he works for the team so I under stand the article I think he is wrong but lots of other fans don't when they lose to the packers they will 2 and 3 if they are not playing better by the time they get to some of the teams they have to play in the middle of the season its will be over pretty quick but I didn't think they were a playoff team to start in with I just don't think the defense or the coaching is good enough the hc history has proven that he cant put together two playoff seasons in a row

i personally didnt know he works for the team, so i get you there.

the rest i agree with. the problem is i think we can both agree on is that JG wont take the blame for this. So others will have to fall. Now some will say Rod is old blah blah blah, thats not the case. Maybe its whats being asked of him, or what the orgnizations wants, IDK, but hes not even getting pressure on qbs and when he does, we go away from it. CBs are playing with to big of a cushion. its just un acceptable and the longer it goes on the more it screams of someone above Rod.
 

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The season is over in terms of championship hopes. This simply isn't a championship team right now.

Then again, the whole league sucks in general. I'm not sure we'll ever see a truly great team ever again.
 

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I am just not sold on the whole zone scheme with our personnel. Either our guys suck or they aren't being coached very well. It always seems the downs we play man or a mixed man/zone we do a lot better. I could tell this game the LB's were not dropping back enough in coverage thus allowing the gaping hole in the middle of the field. Lee is much better at it but he can only cover so much field. I am with many others that think it might be time for a DC coaching change. If it's not the coaching, then it's probably just picking the wrong scheme on each play. Either way we aren't getting the job done.

Oh and another thing - why the hell are we so bad at blitzing???? This has been the case for years and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.
 

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This is media hype at its best and a bold face lie.

We already know a few things right out the gate.

1) the 2017 Oline is not the 16 Oline. We have issues on the line and 2 coaches who are ok with it. Instead of looking for solutions they are hoping the band aid falls in their lap. Huge mistake.

2) you have an issue with your Rb thats not being handled well on both sides.

3) inactives, why did we carry 3 RBs and a FB if they arent going to be used or used correctly.

4) Jeff Heath is not good, suck it Jeff Heath fans. He is very good in a limited role, hes not good at starter role. The end.

5) Your defense sucks, play the rookies, shake Rods hand and tell him best of luck at the end of the season. Nothing more you are getting out of him and i doubt he ll take the DL job and before anyone says Eflerbus or whatever, NO, just no. technically we should leave it to the new HC, but thats not happening. Go out of organization and get a DC.

6) Carrying 3 QBS, waste of roster spot. cut Kellen Moore, play Cooper if Dak goes down. End of Dak, end of season. doesnt matter anyway, again JC is just showing us he cant do the job if you need a reminder of this, see the Rams.

7) Byron Jones, find a new spot for him or put him in limited roles. Suck it Byron fans, hes not great at a safety starter level.

8) Jason Garrett, Jag coach, want to argue it, post his HC record. Suck it, the argument is over.

8 things off the top of my head, making this writer a pom pom writer for his own articles and offering nothing, not even something as basic as "breathing is important" or "water is wet" i would have more respect if he just wrote that and submitted it.

If Dak performs anywhere near last years level, none of that matters.

We're a pretty 3-1 with Dak of 2016.

The OL line isn't as good as 2016! Wouldn't matter!

Zeke has problem! Wouldnt matter!

Bad defense! Wouldn't matter

Aaron Rodgers took crap to the title game.

It's all about the QB

Prescott, last season, played as well as a QB can play. As Nick Wright of Fox Sports said Dak should've been the MVP of the league.

We'll go as Dak goes

If he continues to play unsure and shaky, that will be how the team plays. If he goes back to this:... We'll win this division

That simple.

It's all mental. He's playing scared and erratic.

Why do I say that? Because he's the best QB in the league when he's at his best!

He has the third best QBR in the league and people think he sucks! Just think what his best would look like!

I say all this seriously doubting if he'll get it back.. this season anyway. Best case scenario is he plays well enough to survive but not good enough to save Jason Garrett's job. Wade Wilson seemingly does nothing. Garrett is just a clapper in chief. Dak's mechanics have gone to spit and I blame those two!
 
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If Dak performs anywhere near last years level, none of that matters.

We're a pretty 3-1 with Dak of 2016.

The OL line isn't as good as 2016! Wouldn't matter!

Zeke has problem! Wouldnt matter!

Bad defense! Wouldn't matter

Aaron Rodgers took crap to the title game.

It's all about the QB

Prescott, last season, played as well as a QB can play. As Nick Wright of Fox Sports said Dak should've been the MVP of the league.

We'll go as Dak goes

If he continues to play unsure and shaky, that will be how the team plays. If he goes back to this:... We'll win this division

That simple.

It's all mental. He's playing scared and erratic.

Why do I say that? Because he's the best QB in the league when he's at his best!

He has the third best QBR in the league and people think he sucks! Just think what his best would look like!



There was no way dak was going to play like last year. The cosches should have been prepared.

The defense is new. Its going to take time, but what we arent seeing is good blitzing or decent play across the boards. Changes need to be made or let the rookies play. Personally..plaay them
 

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At this time last year, the OL wasn't playing great, Elliott had gotten firmly on track after causing a few questions early, our defense was a mirage that wouldn't hold up, Dak was keeping the seat warm for Tony, Jason Garrett was a JAG coach because of his record, despite his record on the way to CotY, and nobody in their wildest dreams saw 13-3 coming yet.

And we were one game ahead of this year's 2-2.

It's a long season. There's a lot of football yet to be played. I'm in no rush for it to be over. Why are some of you in a rush for it to be over?
 

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This is media hype at its best and a bold face lie.

We already know a few things right out the gate.

1) the 2017 Oline is not the 16 Oline. We have issues on the line and 2 coaches who are ok with it. Instead of looking for solutions they are hoping the band aid falls in their lap. Huge mistake.

2) you have an issue with your Rb thats not being handled well on both sides.

3) inactives, why did we carry 3 RBs and a FB if they arent going to be used or used correctly.

4) Jeff Heath is not good, suck it Jeff Heath fans. He is very good in a limited role, hes not good at starter role. The end.

5) Your defense sucks, play the rookies, shake Rods hand and tell him best of luck at the end of the season. Nothing more you are getting out of him and i doubt he ll take the DL job and before anyone says Eflerbus or whatever, NO, just no. technically we should leave it to the new HC, but thats not happening. Go out of organization and get a DC.

6) Carrying 3 QBS, waste of roster spot. cut Kellen Moore, play Cooper if Dak goes down. End of Dak, end of season. doesnt matter anyway, again JC is just showing us he cant do the job if you need a reminder of this, see the Rams.

7) Byron Jones, find a new spot for him or put him in limited roles. Suck it Byron fans, hes not great at a safety starter level.

8) Jason Garrett, Jag coach, want to argue it, post his HC record. Suck it, the argument is over.

8 things off the top of my head, making this writer a pom pom writer for his own articles and offering nothing, not even something as basic as "breathing is important" or "water is wet" i would have more respect if he just wrote that and submitted it.
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At this time last year, the OL wasn't playing great, Elliott had gotten firmly on track after causing a few questions early, our defense was a mirage that wouldn't hold up, Dak was keeping the seat warm for Tony, Jason Garrett was a JAG coach because of his record, despite his record on the way to CotY, and nobody in their wildest dreams saw 13-3 coming yet.

And we were one game ahead of this year's 2-2.

It's a long season. There's a lot of football yet to be played. I'm in no rush for it to be over. Why are some of you in a rush for it to be over?
Sad really.

And so many posters demand that they aren’t told otherwise when it comes to their opinion on just how bad we are after 4 games. 12 games left and the weeping is endless.

:facepalm:
 

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And it will not be a federal crime. If they get enough of their problems solved to be a contender, there will be reasons that happened. If they don’t there will be reasons for that. But calling for benchings and firings and beheadings and panic in the streets? That seems an odd way to enjoy a sport, something that’s supposed to bring you enjoyment
 

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and nobody in their wildest dreams saw 13-3 coming yet.

Not quite 13-3 but I did see 12-4 coming

And Dak pretty much solidified himself in the Cincinnati game.

I still believe in the talent on the roster

I still got them between 11-5 and 12-4, which is what I had them finishing at in June. Got greedy with the 14-2.

I believe 10-6 gets this division.
 

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I am just not sold on the whole zone scheme with our personnel. Either our guys suck or they aren't being coached very well. It always seems the downs we play man or a mixed man/zone we do a lot better. I could tell this game the LB's were not dropping back enough in coverage thus allowing the gaping hole in the middle of the field. Lee is much better at it but he can only cover so much field. I am with many others that think it might be time for a DC coaching change. If it's not the coaching, then it's probably just picking the wrong scheme on each play. Either way we aren't getting the job done.

Oh and another thing - why the hell are we so bad at blitzing???? This has been the case for years and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.
We have to be the worst blitzing team in the league. Appears to be about as vanilla as vanilla can be.
 
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