Dean Blandino's explanation

[KJJ]

You statement is a lie. You will waste your time defending Blandino's tampering with the game. You always have. Everyone knows it, and you'll keep losing the argument, because Blandino violated the written rulebook as explained to you several times. It's definitive, conclusive, Dez caught that ball, and Blandino took away the catch without any basis whatsoever in the rulebook. His explanation is irrelevant, so is yours. The written rules stand forever in judgement of such foolishness.

I'm done wasting my time arguing it in this thread but it certainly won't be the last time I discuss the topic. You're only showing up now because you know every time I drop out of these threads, they end up dying and you and Percy won't have anyone to argue with. Go ahead and keep arguing a ruling that was confirmed by the league to be the correct call under the RULE. This argument was lost long ago by FANS like you when the call was confirmed by the league. Sadly this topic has become an annual event on this board as soon as the offseason arrives, giving FANS like you an opportunity to once again cry and complain about the officiating that some think are keeping the Cowboys from getting past the divisional round of the playoffs and onto the SB.

 

[percyhoward]

I'm still trying to figure out who "the league" is. I never heard Goodell give his take on the overturn, and I don't think there's anyone between Blandino and Goodell in the chain of command, so who that matters, besides blandino himself or an official that reports to blandino, confirmed that Blandino didn't screw up when he overturned the call based on his judgment rather than indisputable visual evidence.

The official on the field who ruled it a catch works for the league, as do the people who put the football move back into the catch rule. So you could hardly say "the league" was of one mind.

It's the "appeal to authority" fallacy in lieu of an actual argument.

 

[DandyDon52]

The ball coming loose wasn't debatable it was clear cut. It was a controversial call and will continue to be because most don't like the RULE and many don't understand it. It's still being debated here and will never stop being debated here because this is a FAN board. lol

IF it was clearcut why did the ref right there up close call it a catch ??
Why did it take 5 minutes for them to make a decision ??
even the announcers that day were not sure if it was or not, so the call should have stood as called initially.

 

[LandryFan]

The official on the field who ruled it a catch works for the league, as do the people who put the football move back into the catch rule. So you could hardly say "the league" was of one mind.

It's the "appeal to authority" fallacy in lieu of an actual argument.

Precisely my point!

 

[KJJ]

IF it was clearcut why did the ref right there up close call it a catch ??
Why did it take 5 minutes for them to make a decision ??
even the announcers that day were not sure if it was or not, so the call should have stood as called initially.

I said I wasn't going to continue this but it was clearcut on replay. When the play happened live you couldn't tell if the ball came loose or if Dez was clearly "going to the ground" but on replay it was conclusive. The ref closest to the play interpreted the play according to what he saw live. The replay took time because it was a playoff game in the final 4 minutes and they wanted to make sure they got it right and they did according to the RULE.

 

[KJJ]

This topic that continues to be beaten is a sad reflection of this FAN base and the team in general. Had the Cowboys reached the SB or won it, no one would be revisiting an officiating call that happened in the playoffs more than 2 years ago. This call keeps being argued due to frustration from those looking for excuses for why the team continues to falter in the playoffs. Many don't want to come to grips with the team just not being good enough so they point the finger at the officiating. FANS come up with conspiracy theories where games are being fixed and that officiating crews are being paid off to keep the Cowboys from succeeding in the playoffs. lol

They refuse to see things for what they are and the Dez overturn is a perfect example. Some continue to claim TWO YEARS LATER that the ball never touched the ground despite pictures of the ball CLEARLY touching the ground because they're in denial. Some continue to say the ball never came loose despite CLEAR visual evidence it came loose because they're in denial. Many don't understand what "going to the ground" means or simply don't want to come to grips with it. You can't go forward by continuing to look back, wearing blinders and argue officiating calls from more than two years ago.

We get it, some are frustrated due to another very disappointing playoff loss that involved a bad call that the league admitted was a bad call so instead of looking at the issues that resulted in the loss, FANS start pointing the finger at the officiating again. Excuses SUCK and anyone who can look at the Cowboys last two playoff losses with an honest, objective eye knows the defense is the #1 issue that's holding the Cowboys back and keeping them from going deep in the playoffs.

 

[percyhoward]

The ref closest to the play interpreted the play according to what he saw live.

Well, yeah. He saw Dez make the catch, tuck the ball in his left arm, and go down after being contacted by Shields. By rule, that's a runner down by contact.

What do you think he missed, that replay revealed?

 

[KJJ]

Well, yeah. He saw Dez make the catch, tuck the ball in his left arm, and go down after being contacted by Shields. By rule, that's a runner down by contact.

What do you think he missed, that replay revealed?

He missed Dez was "going to the ground" and the RULE states that a receiver "going to the ground" must hang on to the ball all the way through the contact of the ground and that part of the RULE has been officiated CONSISTENTLY over the years. The Calvin Johnson play was ruled a catch on the field and overturned because it takes slow mo, frame by frame replay to analyze the play to get it right. There's a step by step process that takes slo mo replay to see if every step of the process was met by the receiver. Things happen much too quick in real time for an official to see everything which is why they have replay.

You're one of the most stubborn FANS I've ever seen. You look for everything that favors the Cowboys. You started a thread in 2015 claiming our running game was better than in 2014 which was absurd! Replay revealed that you and everyone who keeps arguing the Dez overturn either doesn't understand the RULE or is in denial over it. I've seen 5 different experts analyze the Dez play which included Blandino, Mike Pereira and three former NFL officials and they ALL agreed the final call was correct under the RULE. If you and others want to continue to say the league and everyone who are trained experts on officiating are wrong, go ahead and keep wasting your time.

You're one of the least honest, objective posters on this board. You're one of those who tries to paint a rosy picture of everything using stats and whatever else you can come up with. If there's any obvious issue with the team, you'll claim it's not an issue and throw up some stats to try and prove it. You're disputing practically everything on the Dez play. There's not an objective bone in your body when it comes to the Cowboys and your archives scream it.

 

[KJJ]

Jerry Austin who had 25 years of on the field NFL officiating said what all the other officials have said when analyzing the play including Mike Cary that by the time Dez had full control of the ball when it reached his shoulders, his momentum was talking him to the ground. He said what all the officials have said, once Dez was ruled "going to the ground" he had to maintain possession of the ball through the contact of the ground. Like all the officials he was asked about the reach Dez made towards the endzone and wouldn't that have been considered a "football move?" He said it was subjective and in his view it was but he said Dez's momentum was already taking him to the ground PRIOR to making that move therefore he had to hang onto the ball all the way through the contact of the ground. Even Stephen Jones said that once a receiver is ruled "going to the ground" nothing that happens after that can trump it, the player has to hang onto the ball and complete the process.

 

[DogFace]

Jerry Austin who had 25 years of on the field NFL officiating said what all the other officials have said when analyzing the play including Mike Cary that by the time Dez had full control of the ball when it reached his shoulders, his momentum was talking him to the ground. He said what all the officials have said, once Dez was ruled "going to the ground" he had to maintain possession of the ball through the contact of the ground. Like all the officials he was asked about the reach Dez made towards the endzone and wouldn't that have been considered a "football move?" He said it was subjective and in his view it was but he said Dez's momentum was already taking him to the ground PRIOR to making that move therefore he had to hang onto the ball all the way through the contact of the ground. Even Stephen Jones said that once a receiver is ruled "going to the ground" nothing that happens after that can trump it, the player has to hang onto the ball and complete the process.

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[DandyDon52]

This call keeps being argued due to frustration from those looking for excuses for why the team continues to falter in the playoffs. Many don't want to come to grips with the team just not being good enough so they point the finger at the officiating.

Not me lol, I think GB would win the game even if we got that td, too much time left.
I know dallas isnt good enough, mainly the coaches.
I just think that call should have stood as called, it wasnt a typical catch, and after looking at it over and over, I first said it wasnt a catch, then it was,
and finally that it just wasnt clearly either, therefore it should have stood.
In the old days that would have been a catch as well, The whole going to the ground thing causes controversy.

 

[KJJ]

Not me lol, I think GB would win the game even if we got that td, too much time left.
I know dallas isnt good enough, mainly the coaches.
I just think that call should have stood as called, it wasnt a typical catch, and after looking at it over and over, I first said it wasnt a catch, then it was,
and finally that it just wasnt clearly either, therefore it should have stood.
In the old days that would have been a catch as well, The whole going to the ground thing causes controversy.

Agree, we wouldn't have won that game regardless because GB had plenty of time to go down the field and score. We couldn't stop them on their final drive as they ate up the clock and Rodgers took a knee with a 1:40 left. Dez was "going to the ground" and had to hang onto the ball all the way through the ground, it's pretty simple but some here just can't come to grips with it. Have yet to hear one official that's reviewed the play claim the call on the field should have stood.

 

[Gator88]

Agree, we wouldn't have won that game regardless because GB had plenty of time to go down the field and score. We couldn't stop them on their final drive as they ate up the clock and Rodgers took a knee with a 1:40 left. Dez was "going to the ground" and had to hang onto the ball all the way through the ground, it's pretty simple but some here just can't come to grips with it. Have yet to hear one official that's reviewed the play claim the call on the field should have stood.

I don't really disagree that GB likely wins even if it's ruled a catch, but the reason you haven't heard an official say that it should have been a catch is because there is no benefit for them to publicly say anything, let alone calling their boss out for being wrong.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

There was CLEAR visual evidence the ball came loose as it contacted the ground. Once it was determined Dez's momentum was taking him to the ground which was pretty obvious it was, he had to complete the process and he didn't.

You cannot say it's clear that Dez didn't have his fingers under the ball or that the ball hit the ground. I disagree.

Jerry Austin who had 25 years of on the field NFL officiating said what all the other officials have said when analyzing the play including Mike Cary that by the time Dez had full control of the ball when it reached his shoulders, his momentum was talking him to the ground. He said what all the officials have said, once Dez was ruled "going to the ground" he had to maintain possession of the ball through the contact of the ground. Like all the officials he was asked about the reach Dez made towards the endzone and wouldn't that have been considered a "football move?" He said it was subjective and in his view it was but he said Dez's momentum was already taking him to the ground PRIOR to making that move therefore he had to hang onto the ball all the way through the contact of the ground. Even Stephen Jones said that once a receiver is ruled "going to the ground" nothing that happens after that can trump it, the player has to hang onto the ball and complete the process.

Going to the ground for 13-15 feet of space from where he high pointed the ball?

You're trying to sell this? For real? Thanks, but I'm not buying.

 

[KJJ]

I don't really disagree that GB likely wins even if it's ruled a catch, but the reason you haven't heard an official say that it should have been a catch is because there is no benefit for them to publicly say anything, let alone calling their boss out for being wrong.

Several who said it wasn't a catch under the RULE are former officials who are giving honest opinions. These are officials that are being paid by the Networks to give their opinions of replays during games and they don't always agree with the final ruling.

 

[KJJ]

You cannot say it's clear that Dez didn't have his fingers under the ball or that the ball hit the ground. I disagree.


Going to the ground for 13-15 feet of space from where he high pointed the ball?

You're trying to sell this? For real? Thanks, but I'm not buying.

Dude, it's all on replay and not one single official disputed that Dez's momentum was taking him to the ground. Even Stephen Jones admitted that. I'm not trying to sell anything this is something that's been confirmed by every expert that's weighed in on that play who gets paid or got paid to make those calls. You're part of the crowd here who's trying to sell something and everyone of you are wasting your time. The RULE is still being officiated the same way despite the controversy.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Dude, it's all on replay and not one single official disputed that Dez's momentum was taking him to the ground. Even Stephen Jones admitted that. I'm not trying to sell anything this is something that's been confirmed by every expert that's weighed in on that play who gets paid or got paid to make those calls. You're part of the crowd here who's trying to sell something and everyone of you are wasting your time. The RULE is still being officiated the same way despite the controversy.

We get it. It seems logical to you that a reciever "ruled going to the ground" could be 99 yards down the field as long as he was ruled "going to the ground."

 

[KJJ]

We get it. It seems logical to you that a reciever "ruled going to the ground" could be 99 yards down the field as long as he was ruled "going to the ground."

The play is logical to everyone who understands the RULE and isn't a biased Cowboys FAN. You clearly either don't understand the RULE or are in denial over it. Two things are painfully obvious on the play, Dez's momentum was taking him to the ground and the ball came loose when he hit the ground.

 

[KJJ]

We get it.

No, you and many other FANS don't get it which is why this argument has been going on for more than two years. None of you come close to getting it, just look at what's being posted.