Dean Blandino's explanation

[Bleedblue1111]

[QUOTEJ], post: 7216313, member: 24819"]No, you and many other FANS don't get it which is why this argument has been going on for more than two years. None of you come close to getting it, just look at what's being posted.[/QUOTE]


Does Blandino get it? You keep saying the rule, however he just blatantly ignores one of the most basic rules in the NFL, by using judgement in a replay review, to overturn a call made on the field. Where is your outrage for him not following a rule? I'm just a fan, he's supposed to be a professional.

 

[KJJ]

[QUOTEJ], post: 7216313, member: 24819"]No, you and many other FANS don't get it which is why this argument has been going on for more than two years. None of you come close to getting it, just look at what's being posted.

Does Blandino get it? You keep saying the rule, however he just blatantly ignores one of the most basic rules in the NFL, by using judgement in a replay review, to overturn a call made on the field. Where is your outrage for him not following a rule? I'm just a fan, he's supposed to be a professional.

You still don't know how to post a quote even though I explained it to you. If you can't even do that then I'm not wasting my time with you.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

You still don't know how to post a quote even though I explained it to you. If you can't even do that then I'm not wasting my time with you.

I can post better than Blandino can follow rules. I'd say I only land in the grey about 30% of the time, whereas Blandino lives there about 80% of the time.

When has officiating in the NFL been as bad as it has been, since Blandino took the reigns? I'm not sure his goons are doing better than the scabs we had a few seasons ago. I personally think he should be canned.

I've seen enough bad officiating this past season throughout the NFL, to hold me over for another decade. Blandino is a joke of a leader. The NFL needs to cut out the cancer.

 

[percyhoward]

He missed Dez was "going to the ground" and the RULE states that a receiver "going to the ground" must hang on to the ball all the way through the contact of the ground and that part of the RULE has been officiated CONSISTENTLY over the years.

How could anyone possibly believe that the official in this picture didn't see Dez going to the ground?
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[KJJ]

I can post better than Blandino can follow rules. I'd say I only land in the grey about 30% of the time, whereas Blandino lives there about 80% of the time.

When has officiating in the NFL been as bad as it has been, since Blandino took the reigns? I'm not sure his goons are doing better than the scabs we had a few seasons ago. I personally think he should be canned.

I've seen enough bad officiating this past season throughout the NFL, to hold me over for another decade. Blandino is a joke of a leader. The NFL needs to cut out the cancer.

You're still not doing it right I never got the alert. All you have to do is click "reply" on my post and my "quote" will appear. Type your response and send it. lol

 

[KJJ]

How could anyone possibly believe that the official in this picture didn't see Dez going to the ground?
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Dez "going to the ground" still involved some judgement, you have many here STILL disputing that he was "going to the ground." The official had to watch Dez make the catch, gain control and when he landed you couldn't clearly tell if the ball contacted the ground or even came loose in real time. Things are happening quick and it takes replay to analyze the play. If an official isn't sure they'll call it a catch because to reverse the call in replay it has to be conclusive. When in doubt they give them the catch.

 

[percyhoward]

You couldn't clearly tell if the ball contacted the ground or even came loose in real time.

Those are Terry Brown's feet at the top of the picture. How does he not see the loose ball right in front of him?

 

[KJJ]

Those are Terry Brown's feet at the top of the picture. How does he not see the loose ball right in front of him?

He probably did see the ball come loose but it took replay to see that when the ball came loose it contacted the ground making it an incomplete pass. The ball can come loose provided the receiver regains control BEFORE the ball contacts the ground. It was the ball contacting the ground that caused it to come loose which is why the call on the field was overturned in replay.

 

[percyhoward]

An official who sees a receiver going to the ground in the act of catching a pass holds his position to see whether the player maintains control after hitting the ground. His job is to give the familiar "catch" signal if the pass is complete, or to signal incomplete.

An official who sees a completed catch and a runner down by contact runs to spot the ball where the runner went down. His job is to mark the ball dead at that spot.

Here's how we know Brown's ruling was "down by contact." Watch how he reacts at the end.



As soon as Dez goes to the ground, he runs up to mark the ball dead at that spot. There's no way he would do that if he thought the catch process was still in progress. Also note that he did not give a "catch" signal. He didn't think it was necessary, because for him the catch wasn't in doubt -- the only question was whether Dez had broken the plane. He ran up to mark the ball short of the goal line, and raised his right hand to indicate that the runners' forward progress was stopped and it's a dead ball.

 

[KJJ]

If Dez's hand would have been UNDER the ball when it contacted the ground causing it to pop up he might have gotten away with it. However, the way he was holding the ball allowed the belly of the ball to contact the ground causing it to pop up and come loose. The two things that killed that play was the ruling that Dez was "going to the ground" and the ball coming loose when it contacted the ground.

 

[percyhoward]

He probably did see the ball come loose but it took replay to see that when the ball came loose it contacted the ground making it an incomplete pass. The ball can come loose provided the receiver regains control BEFORE the ball contacts the ground. It was the ball contacting the ground that caused it to come loose which is why the call on the field was overturned in replay.

You do realize that if Brown thought the ball never hit the ground, he'd have had to call it a touchdown.

 

[percyhoward]

The two things that killed that play was the ruling that Dez was "going to the ground" and the ball coming loose when it contacted the ground.

Runners go to the ground and lose the ball all the time. If they've been contacted, the ball is marked dead at that spot.

 

[KJJ]

You do realize that if Brown thought the ball never hit the ground, he'd have had to call it a touchdown.

He would have called it what he did, down by contact because Dez's elbow landed at the half yard line. Dez and the defender were making contact inside the 5 yard line when Dez went down just prior to the goal line.

 

[KJJ]

Runners go to the ground and lose the ball all the time. If they've been contacted, the ball is marked dead at that spot.

Runners go the ground all the time after being contacted by the defender but they've already established themselves as a "runner" so when they do go down they're down by contact. On the Dez play his "momentum" was taking him to the ground and he would have fallen to the ground without any contact by the defender. He was concentrating on making the catch and his body lean/momentum was taking him to the ground while he was still in the air battling for the ball. His footing wasn't stable when he landed causing him to stumble forward and fall. He never established himself as a "runner" despite the steps he took. These last couple of comments by you are showing that you don't understand the aspects to this rule. Des was in the process of falling from the time his feet touched the ground.

 

[percyhoward]

He would have called it what he did, down by contact because Dez's elbow landed at the half yard line. Dez and the defender were making contact inside the 5 yard line when Dez went down just prior to the goal line.

You had said that Brown thought Dez maintained control after hitting the ground, and that it took replay to reveal that the ball hit the ground.

Now you're saying Brown didn't care if Dez maintained control because he ruled Dez down by contact. What you're saying now is right, by the way. It also means the ruling on the field was that the catch process was completed before Dez went to the ground. That means "going to the ground" only applies if you go back into the catch process and say he didn't complete one of the three steps. Which means Blandino had to prove Dez didn't make a football move (since he obviously had control and two feet down).

Which is what I've been saying the whole time. Blandino didn't prove that Dez didn't make a football move.

 

[KJJ]

You had said that Brown thought Dez maintained control after hitting the ground, and that it took replay to reveal that the ball hit the ground.

Now you're saying Brown didn't care if Dez maintained control because he ruled Dez down by contact. What you're saying now is right, by the way. It also means the ruling on the field was that the catch process was completed before Dez went to the ground. That means "going to the ground" only applies if you go back into the catch process and say he didn't complete one of the three steps. Which means Blandino had to prove Dez didn't make a football move (since he obviously had control and two feet down).

Which is what I've been saying the whole time. Blandino didn't prove that Dez didn't make a football move.

I didn't say any of that. I said it took replay to judge if Dez was "going to the ground" and that the ball contacting the ground caused it to come loose. Once it was determined that Dez was "going to the ground" he then had to complete the process of hanging onto the ball through the contact of the ground. You still don't get that? lol

 

[percyhoward]

On the Dez play his "momentum" was taking him to the ground and he would have fallen to the ground without any contact by the defender. He was concentrating on making the catch and his body lean/momentum was taking him to the ground while he was still in the air battling for the ball. His footing wasn't stable when he landed causing him to stumble forward and fall. He never established himself as a "runner" despite the steps he took.

There are three requirements for a receiver to establish himself as a runner, and "stable footing" isn't one of them.

 

[KJJ]

There are three requirements for a receiver to establish himself as a runner, and "stable footing" isn't one of them.

The first requirement is they have to start running after gaining control of the ball and by the time Dez gained full control of the ball (when the ball reached his shoulders) he was falling to the ground, not running. Stumbling to the ground isn't running. That's not establishing yourself as a "runner."

 

[percyhoward]

I didn't say any of that. I said it took replay to judge if Dez was "going to the ground" and that the ball contacting the ground caused it to come loose. Once it was determined that Dez was "going to the ground" he then had to complete the process of hanging onto the ball through the contact of the ground. You still don't get that? lol

You seem to be thinking that simply "falling" is the same as "going to the ground in the act of catching a pass."

That would explain a lot.

 

[KJJ]

You seem to be thinking that simply "falling" is the same as "going to the ground in the act of catching a pass."

That would explain a lot.

You're wrong "going to the ground" has to do with the receivers body lean/momentum taking them to the ground during the act of making a catch and that started well before Dez gained full control of the ball and he started to fall. As soon as Dez gained full control of the ball he started to fall, not run. The longer you go the more you're being exposed for how lost you are on this topic.