dear mom, why bill parcells irks me so

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dear mom;

something occured to me recently. beating the panthers or not is kinda pointless in a gauge of how good the team is. i think if you look at parody across the board it's almosy by design the biggest difference in winning or losing is timing of the breaks, not talent of the team

that sucks.

so we beat carolina - are we a good team? no, we're lost in the averages we call chicago, tampa, atlanta, minnesota, oakland, seattle, green bay - that while every one in awhile you can sneak your head up and for a brief moment "be good", we all miss the times we were san fransisco, the patriots, the steelers...

...the cowboys.

this team isn't a shell of the best in our history and that's a fact. it's not built to be. you see, we're an average team that with a few breaks can win a few more games and should we get a run of breaks against us, like the rest we lose. any given day we can go toe to toe for a variety of reasons with the best, any other given day the mediocre out there kicks our nuts in.

it's like a whole lot of short term thinking on all these teams w/o any of them looking at the big picture. sure we can beat a carolina this year, lose the next, call it growth but in the end it's not growth, it's just the way things are being done by the "averages". we're playing to be a bit better than average - "today" and that's at the cost of trying to be great, for a decade.

this is not an average franchise and we're not used to being atlanta where if we're really good we can have a good year. yay bill parcells, you made us better 'n average. sometimes. maybe. to hell with that and the same for that thinking, mom!!!

i/we want 10+ years IN A ROW in the playoffs and it's expected we ARE there TO compete, not just getting there is good enough cause "anything can happen". year in and year out we want to be the best the league has and those bad breaks we can beat because we're just that good. not lucky.

we ain't even close to doing that and the shotgun approach is designed to beat the averages, not be the best. bills shot both of his barrells and he's reloading to give us nothing but more of the same and it will continue to divide fans out like this. can he hit the target? maybe. odds of it? pretty remote - see last 2 years as good example of what you usually get. you're far more likely to hit a home run by planning for one than by loading up for one NOW.

why does he do that? now is all he has, thereby, all we have. he's got to do this, but we don't. we can plan for a stronger and better team and not a roll of the dice.

so i bash a lot. it's simply because for all these reasons the path we're on isn't likey to get us anywhere at all. we've seen what we're gonna get and on a good day we're gonna be better than average. on an average day we'll be average to a little above.

yay us.

sue me, i want to be a dominate team in this league again and even IF bill should hit the target, then you gotta reload and see if you can make it happen again. even if we should win it the very next year we could easily go 8-8, 5-11, or 10-6 cause thats how this approach works. i wanna be a consistan 10-12 game winner each and every year and we are NOT anywhere close to going down that path.

and just like all those kids in the 3rd grade who called me names, it irks me.

anyway, send money. i'm gonna go into a balsa wood remote company and a tv repair shop in dallas. seems a lot are getting busted up these days and a lighter remote may help be 'proactive'.

love,
 

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I just re-read your post. I still don't know what irks you about Parcells. It's just a mashing of odd ideas.

I guess I'm a tough crowd, it will be interesting to see what others say.
 

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The fact that you would write to your mother about football and Bill Parcells is what prevented me from reading this post.
 

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Canadian BoyzFan said:
I just re-read your post. I still don't know what irks you about Parcells. It's just a mashing of odd ideas.

I guess I'm a tough crowd, it will be interesting to see what others say.

in a nutshell - it irks me he's wanting to do anything he can to WIN NOW and to me it's a bad path to be on.

it makes us an average, not dominate team. even IF he pulls it off and wins the superbowl, we're starting over. every couple of years you gotta retrench and regear and hope all the breaks go your way to make the playoffs - under this approach.

indie, the pats - the teams you expect to see there do so by planning and building up and out, not by darts on the wall.

i want us back to building up and out. if we're gonna shell our defense and start over, why the reluctance to put our offense on the same timetable in the same manner? we blew up 1/2 the team and ignored the other 1/2. well, made bad choices as well for the other half.

long term - what's our plan? we don't have one - that irks me. don't even have one off to the side cause romo can't come in during a blowout. what we see is what we get and this "plan" odds are will do no better.

and that irks me.
 

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Hoods said:
The fact that you would write to your mother about football and Bill Parcells is what prevented me from reading this post.

yet here you are. what a quandrious delima.
 

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iceberg said:
dear mom;

something occured to me recently. beating the panthers or not is kinda pointless in a gauge of how good the team is. i think if you look at parody across the board it's almosy by design the biggest difference in winning or losing is timing of the breaks, not talent of the team

that sucks.

so we beat carolina - are we a good team? no, we're lost in the averages we call chicago, tampa, atlanta, minnesota, oakland, seattle, green bay - that while every one in awhile you can sneak your head up and for a brief moment "be good", we all miss the times we were san fransisco, the patriots, the steelers...

...the cowboys.

this team isn't a shell of the best in our history and that's a fact. it's not built to be. you see, we're an average team that with a few breaks can win a few more games and should we get a run of breaks against us, like the rest we lose. any given day we can go toe to toe for a variety of reasons with the best, any other given day the mediocre out there kicks our nuts in.

it's like a whole lot of short term thinking on all these teams w/o any of them looking at the big picture. sure we can beat a carolina this year, lose the next, call it growth but in the end it's not growth, it's just the way things are being done by the "averages". we're playing to be a bit better than average - "today" and that's at the cost of trying to be great, for a decade.

this is not an average franchise and we're not used to being atlanta where if we're really good we can have a good year. yay bill parcells, you made us better 'n average. sometimes. maybe. to hell with that and the same for that thinking, mom!!!

i/we want 10+ years IN A ROW in the playoffs and it's expected we ARE there TO compete, not just getting there is good enough cause "anything can happen". year in and year out we want to be the best the league has and those bad breaks we can beat because we're just that good. not lucky.

we ain't even close to doing that and the shotgun approach is designed to beat the averages, not be the best. bills shot both of his barrells and he's reloading to give us nothing but more of the same and it will continue to divide fans out like this. can he hit the target? maybe. odds of it? pretty remote - see last 2 years as good example of what you usually get. you're far more likely to hit a home run by planning for one than by loading up for one NOW.

why does he do that? now is all he has, thereby, all we have. he's got to do this, but we don't. we can plan for a stronger and better team and not a roll of the dice.

so i bash a lot. it's simply because for all these reasons the path we're on isn't likey to get us anywhere at all. we've seen what we're gonna get and on a good day we're gonna be better than average. on an average day we'll be average to a little above.

yay us.

sue me, i want to be a dominate team in this league again and even IF bill should hit the target, then you gotta reload and see if you can make it happen again. even if we should win it the very next year we could easily go 8-8, 5-11, or 10-6 cause thats how this approach works. i wanna be a consistan 10-12 game winner each and every year and we are NOT anywhere close to going down that path.

and just like all those kids in the 3rd grade who called me names, it irks me.

anyway, send money. i'm gonna go into a balsa wood remote company and a tv repair shop in dallas. seems a lot are getting busted up these days and a lighter remote may help be 'proactive'.

love,

EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Hoods said:
And my point being I wasn't "here" for long.

and here you are again. do you always make it a point to tell people you're ignoring that you're ignoring them? if so, anyone ever tell you that's not really how you ignore people?
 

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iceberg said:
and here you are again. do you always make it a point to tell people you're ignoring that you're ignoring them? if so, anyone ever tell you that's not really how you ignore people?

your hitting them out of the park today....

But...in all fairness..the other guy is serving up fat softballs.
 

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yea, these are too easy. makes you wonder what's "irkin" them today. : )
 

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iceberg said:
yea, these are too easy. makes you wonder what's "irkin" them today. : )


That was a good piece though....IMO....you got some talent.
 

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I think, in some small way, you can look at the Parcellian responses the past few years to key positions on the team (i.e., "where do I get a starting QB now, you cant just dial 1-800 Quarterback", or if I cook the meal, I want to buy the groceries, and "If I say hes not ready, why cant you guys just understand that??", and of course, "Im too old to lose."
Pointing to the Jacob Rogers fiasco, eschewing the obvious FS need on the team for several years running, dismissing Steve Hoffman and other moves have just about cured me of the "bus-driver philosophy" and "fewest mistakes means we win" school of coaching.
In that way, iceberg, you are spot on.
I want to see the Cowboys come out Saturday playing balls to the wall, nothing to lose, but think I may be in for a small let down.
 

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Didn't you expect this?......I did once I heard the words "Im too old to lose" from Bill

"You are what you are"

"scheme's are overrated"

"Play field position" " solid defence" "conservative offence"....

Yet...we let a dependable long snapper go.....our OL is no better than it was 3 years ago.....and our LB's and DL isn't big enough....talent enough to play the 3-4
and we are still searching for that realiable kicker

Bill's tenure here will end up as a .500 coach

Book it
 

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Mash said:
Didn't you expect this?......I did once I heard the words "Im too old to lose" from Bill

"You are what you are"

"scheme's are overrated"

"Play field position" " solid defence" "conservative offence"....

Yet...we let a dependable long snapper go.....our OL is no better than it was 3 years ago.....and our LB's and DL isn't big enough....talent enough to play the 3-4
and we are still searching for that realiable kicker

Bill's tenure here will end up as a .500 coach

Book it

I think you're right about him becoming a .500 coach cause I believe this is a 6-8 team masquerading as a 8-6 team cause we almost lost to SF, should have lost to the Chargers and the Eagles the last time we played them.We haven't looked as bad we did Sunday since the Giants beat us 37-7 in 2002.
Bledsoe's performance was eerily Hutch-like.
 

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iceberg said:
dear mom;

something occured to me recently. beating the panthers or not is kinda pointless in a gauge of how good the team is. i think if you look at parody across the board it's almosy by design the biggest difference in winning or losing is timing of the breaks, not talent of the team

that sucks.

so we beat carolina - are we a good team? no, we're lost in the averages we call chicago, tampa, atlanta, minnesota, oakland, seattle, green bay - that while every one in awhile you can sneak your head up and for a brief moment "be good", we all miss the times we were san fransisco, the patriots, the steelers...

...the cowboys.

this team isn't a shell of the best in our history and that's a fact. it's not built to be. you see, we're an average team that with a few breaks can win a few more games and should we get a run of breaks against us, like the rest we lose. any given day we can go toe to toe for a variety of reasons with the best, any other given day the mediocre out there kicks our nuts in.

it's like a whole lot of short term thinking on all these teams w/o any of them looking at the big picture. sure we can beat a carolina this year, lose the next, call it growth but in the end it's not growth, it's just the way things are being done by the "averages". we're playing to be a bit better than average - "today" and that's at the cost of trying to be great, for a decade.

this is not an average franchise and we're not used to being atlanta where if we're really good we can have a good year. yay bill parcells, you made us better 'n average. sometimes. maybe. to hell with that and the same for that thinking, mom!!!

i/we want 10+ years IN A ROW in the playoffs and it's expected we ARE there TO compete, not just getting there is good enough cause "anything can happen". year in and year out we want to be the best the league has and those bad breaks we can beat because we're just that good. not lucky.

we ain't even close to doing that and the shotgun approach is designed to beat the averages, not be the best. bills shot both of his barrells and he's reloading to give us nothing but more of the same and it will continue to divide fans out like this. can he hit the target? maybe. odds of it? pretty remote - see last 2 years as good example of what you usually get. you're far more likely to hit a home run by planning for one than by loading up for one NOW.

why does he do that? now is all he has, thereby, all we have. he's got to do this, but we don't. we can plan for a stronger and better team and not a roll of the dice.

so i bash a lot. it's simply because for all these reasons the path we're on isn't likey to get us anywhere at all. we've seen what we're gonna get and on a good day we're gonna be better than average. on an average day we'll be average to a little above.

yay us.

sue me, i want to be a dominate team in this league again and even IF bill should hit the target, then you gotta reload and see if you can make it happen again. even if we should win it the very next year we could easily go 8-8, 5-11, or 10-6 cause thats how this approach works. i wanna be a consistan 10-12 game winner each and every year and we are NOT anywhere close to going down that path.

and just like all those kids in the 3rd grade who called me names, it irks me.

anyway, send money. i'm gonna go into a balsa wood remote company and a tv repair shop in dallas. seems a lot are getting busted up these days and a lighter remote may help be 'proactive'.

love,
That was classic.
 

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it's like a whole lot of short term thinking on all these teams w/o any of them looking at the big picture. sure we can beat a carolina this year, lose the next, call it growth but in the end it's not growth, it's just the way things are being done by the "averages". we're playing to be a bit better than average - "today" and that's at the cost of trying to be great, for a decade.
Nonsense. Just absolute and complete nonsense that can be broken down (and has been broken down ad naseum) so many times its ridiculous. And the shameless part of it all is that the people who say it even know it to be complete nonsense, but still say it anyway.
 

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Jerry,

I feel your pain. It's the same as I've been saying for years. During our down years, we made ourselves feel better by stating, "At least we're not the Bengals". For some reason, that statement made people feel better about themselves, and continuous 5-11 seasons.

I too want a return to the dominant ways. I'm tired of the 3 point wins and 2 point loses. I want this team to kick everyone's azzes for the next 10, 20, 30 freakin' years!!!

Tom Landry did it. He dominated the NFL for 25 straight seasons. Ok, ok ... different time, different era. Doesn't matter ... no one else from that time and era did it. Only him.

I'm tired of complaining about our FG kicker or our punter, or the refs. It should NEVER come down to that. Jimmy Johnson's Super Bowl teams never relied on a kicker to win games for us. None of our victories were decided by a freakin referee's bad call.

I don't know what to say bout BP either. In the end, I see this team finishing 9-7 and out of the playoffs. That's sad ... I'd like to believe we are a better team than 3 wins above last year's 6-10 record.

Jerry, I feel your pain. But I still plan to stand next to you when we win our next Super Bowl !!!
 

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Nonsense. Just absolute and complete nonsense that can be broken down (and has been broken down ad naseum) so many times its ridiculous. And the shame of it is most people who say it even know it to be complete nonsense.

there's a reason some teams never hit prolonged period of heights, and it's usually where they're truly aiming.

there's a reason more than just "luck" the cowboys are one of the dominate teams in the league. here we are this year about to wet ourselves cause there's a chance we may make the playoffs and call that an "accomplishment" much like the average teams who've seldom gone the distance do.

it wasn't long ago we'd be just as upset on the flip side for NOT making it. forgive me if i wanna leave the :"averages" of the nfl behind and one again be a dominate team - but i do. and so far i can't forgive parcells for making sure we're putting everything into 1 shot and watch it fizzle cause the fuse couldn't get lit. meanwhile we all stand around and bicker about how great we could be if that freaking fuse would just light.

having a chance to make the playoffs 2 years in a row and NOT making it is NOT progress. esp when he shelled the last team that did and replaced it with HIS players.

we're an average team that if we get lucky and a few breaks we make the playoffs. the following year we don't.

you wanna debate we're more than average and above THAT group - go ahead. this should be interesting.

i'm gonna go pop some popcorn and wait for your obviously illuminated response and if i struggle to understand then maybe next time around i won't be so "preposterous".
 
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