Defenseless receiver rule

[Don Corleone]

At least they actually called some penalties on Denver. Usually it's one or two on them and 10 on us.

Did you notice how quick they were to give Denver the benefit of makeup calls?

:laugh2:

 

[Yeagermeister]

Did you notice how quick they were to give Denver the benefit of makeup calls?

:laugh2:

That's a given

 

[theebs]

I don't want to use a bad call as the precedent for another bad call to be made. The one against the Chiefs was the wrong call and the refs need to be reprimanded for it. Just because they got it wrong does not mean other refs should make the wrong call, too. Even if it may benefits my favorite team.

I agree with that, its just that to miss the shove and this is bad.

They call bogus calls on sheffler and bennett earlier but miss those two penalties? From the officiating crew that throws the highest amount of flags? Seems odd.

there is simply no excuse for not calling the shove, this one can go either way I will give you that. Its just odd all of a sudden this group that cant stop throwing flags, stops.

 

[Temo]

"All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected from unnecessary hits by the defense, which include helmet-to-helmet contact, helmet-to-body contact, and blows to the head. Intended receivers of forward passes who fail to catch the pass are considered to be in a defenseless position immediately after the pass is missed. If the pass is caught, all of these restrictions are off, unless in the opinion of the covering official, something unsportsmanlike occurs."

I think iffy call, only automatic if he got hit in the head.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Some Officials over officiate thinking they will be able to keep everything under controll.

The way I see it you should call the blatant penalty and protect the players.

Roy Williams was defensless on the hit and it caused injury.

IhumbleMO the yellow flag wasn't throw by the Official because they were trying to be conservative from callling too many "phantom" penalties early.

 

[Rampage]

good no call. the "defenseless receiver" rule is stupid anyways. If anything they should have called illegal contact on Champ.

 

[Doomsday101]

Some Officials over officiate thinking they will be able to keep everything under controll.

The way I see it you should call the blatant penalty and protect the players.

Roy Williams was defensless on the hit and it caused injury.

IhumbleMO the yellow flag wasn't throw by the Official because they were trying to be conservative from callling too many "phantom" penalties early.

The reason it was not called was because he was in the process of making the catch. Had the ball went by him and then he was laid out it would have been called but since the defender hit him right as he touched the ball he was fair game.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The reason it was not called was because he was in the process of making the catch. Had the ball went by him and then he was laid out it would have been called but since the defender hit him right as he touched the ball he was fair game.

That's not how the rule is stated.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's not how the rule is stated.

It is legal to hit the WR who is attempting to make the catch the ball hit his hands and the LB hit in right at that point. The rule does not say you can't hit the WR what the rule does is prevent defender from nailing WR when the ball was clearly uncatchable or beyond the WR.

 

[theebs]

It is legal to hit the WR who is attempting to make the catch the ball hit his hands and the LB hit in right at that point. The rule does not say you can't hit the WR what the rule does is prevent defender from nailing WR when the ball was clearly uncatchable or beyond the WR.

ummmm?

 

[Doomsday101]

ummmm?

I intended to say it is not illegal to hit a WR who is in the process of making a catch.

The third change involves receiver saftey and is an enhancement to the 'defensless receiver' rule that has become so prominnent in the past. We'll call this one the Anquan Boldin Rule. In the past, officials gave an unnecessary roughness penalty to a defender if he delivered a helmet hit to a receiver going across the middle of the field or any spot on the field in which he appeared to be defenseless. Starting this fall, the penalty will also apply if the defender hits the defenseless receiver in the head or neck with his forearm or shoulder.

 

[Hoofbite]

I can't believe some actually think that is flag worthy.

Roy Williams (SS) made a living off of those types of hits. Anyone remember the Texans game where he said "Ya'll F-ed Up", he came back and nailed their TE on a play not too different from that one. At least it wasn't any different in terms of a guy being hit without the ball.

If they start throwing flags on plays like that, I'll be done with football.

That was a clean hit.

 

[theebs]

I can't believe some actually think that is flag worthy.

If they start throwing flags on plays like that, I'll be done with football.

That was a clean hit.

Guess your done with football then. Check the steve smith hit.

 

[TheCount]

Dont go there.

You will just get that the ball was too high.

There should have been two flags thrown on denver on this play, illegal contact and hitting a defensless wr.

but nope. Nothing.

Romo sucks the ball was high. Move along.

It's not possible the ball was too high AND there was illegal contact AND hitting a defenseless receiver?

 

[Hoofbite]

Guess your done with football then. Check the steve smith hit.

Haven't seen it.

And 1 play doesn't exactly change my stance anyway. There are bad calls left and right every week. I guess I should have said "regularly" flagging those plays. More often than not, and by a wide margin, the play Roy was involved in will get no flag.

 

[21Savage]

Haven't seen it.

And 1 play doesn't exactly change my stance anyway. There are bad calls left and right every week. I guess I should have said "regularly" flagging those plays. More often than not, and by a wide margin, the play Roy was involved in will get no flag.

What about the illegal contact by Champ downfield? I'm interested in your response.

 

[Hoofbite]

What about the illegal contact by Champ downfield? I'm interested in your response.

What about it? It happened.

I'm interested in why you are so interested in my response?

 

[links18]

Some of you guys just make stuff up. The Defenseless receiver rule DOES NOT hinge on helmet to helmet to contact or a blow to the head. As long as the receiver is in a defenseless position, you can't lay him out. You can claim the rule is BS, but that is the rule. We can argue about whether or not Roy was defenseless or not, but it does not depend on a blow to the head. Now, the BS call against KC earlier was BS, because Steve Smith was clearly not defenseless. This rule has been there for a long time. We got a defenseless receiver call in 1998 against Philly, when someone laid out Billy Davis after Troy, that's right Troy Aikman, sailed the ball clear over his head.

 

[21Savage]

What about it? It happened.

I'm interested in why you are so interested in my response?

Because without the impedement, a ball that looks too high isn't necessarily so if the WR could've been further downfield and in a better spot to make the catch. The illegal contacts was more impactful than people are perceving because it also knocked out our best WR on the game's deciding drive.

Also because you seem to be one of those posters always crying about people crying about cowboys' injustice.

 

[Hoofbite]

Because without the impedement, a ball that looks too high isn't necessarily so if the WR could've been further downfield and in a better spot to make the catch. The illegal contacts was more impactful than people are perceving because it also knocked out our best WR on the game's deciding drive.

Also because you seem to be one of those posters always crying about people crying about cowboys' injustice.

I said nothing about the ball being too high or not. I just said I thought it was a clean hit.

And yes, I do occasionally get tired of hearing the "world vs. us" BS. It's always the refs or the league conspiring against Dallas.