Defenseless receiver rule

[TNCowboy]

interesting, did you see the personal foul called on KC for their hit on Steve smith, who actually had the ball in his hands?

go watch that and then compare it to this.

I was going to post the same thing. I've seen a couple of other instances similar.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Some of you guys just make stuff up. The Defenseless receiver rule DOES NOT hinge on helmet to helmet to contact or a blow to the head. As long as the receiver is in a defenseless position, you can't lay him out.

Not true. As long as the receiver is in a defenseless position, you can't lay him out unnecessarily. This hit was necessary. Unnecessary hits are when the defender sees that the pass is incomplete, has time to adjust, but still chooses to hit the receiver. Calling a penalty against Denver in this situation would effectively require DBs to stop, see if the pass is caught, and then hit the receiver if he catches it.

 

[TNCowboy]

Not true. As long as the receiver is in a defenseless position, you can't lay him out unnecessarily. This hit was necessary. Unnecessary hits are when the defender sees that the pass is incomplete, has time to adjust, but still chooses to hit the receiver. Calling a penalty against Denver in this situation would effectively require DBs to stop, see if the pass is caught, and then hit the receiver if he catches it.

I've seen it called when a ball was in a receiver's hands.

 

[Hoofbite]

I've seen it called when a ball was in a receiver's hands.

You've seen a bad call which is no reason why another bad call should be made.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

what's with Roy wearing Smedium jerseys?

 

[bbgun]

what's with Roy wearing Smedium jerseys?

'Cause his game is so tight. I kid, I kid. He actually stinks.

 

[Clove]

You will just get that the ball was too high.

It was.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

'Cause his game is so tight. I kid, I kid. He actually stinks.

no

he blocks

very well

 

[RainMan]

Dont go there.

You will just get that the ball was too high.

There should have been two flags thrown on denver on this play, illegal contact and hitting a defensless wr.

but nope. Nothing.

Romo sucks the ball was high. Move along.

I generally hate complaining about bad calls, and don't mind Bailey not getting called at the end, but the two calls were blatant in this instant.

Romo was undoubtedly high on the throw (waaay high), but there were undoubtedly also a pair of penalties missed.

I don't know if it would have impacted the game any, but it is disturbing that our top receiver got pummeled on an illegal play without a whisper coming about it.

 

[SuspectCorner]

A clean play. Tony just plain hung Roy out. The absence of #11, at the end of the last game and next week, should provide a reminder to #9 - 'I shouldn't do that.'

 

[jimmy40]

When does that rule come in to play? That hit on RW after the missed catch looks exactly like what the rule was intended to prevent.

Didn't Roy learn anything from TO? Never jump for a ball when going over the middle.

 

[joseephuss]

A clean play. Tony just plain hung Roy out. The absence of #11, at the end of the last game and next week, should provide a reminder to #9 - 'I shouldn't do that.'

Did Romo really hang Roy out by a bad throw? If Champ doesn't push Roy and slow down his momentum it is possible that Roy makes it farther down the field and is not in a position for the defender to hit him. It is remotely possible that Roy gets in a position to catch the ball if he is not pushed by Champ. There was even the potential for a very big result had Champ not pushed Roy. Sometimes one part of the play changes the whole outcome of the play. What looks like a bad throw by Romo could have been a good throw if Champ doesn't foul Roy. Or at least not as bad a throw as it appeared.

 

[jimmy40]

Did Romo really hang Roy out by a bad throw? If Champ doesn't push Roy and slow down his momentum it is possible that Roy makes it farther down the field and is not in a position for the defender to hit him. It is remotely possible that Roy gets in a position to catch the ball if he is not pushed by Champ. There was even the potential for a very big result had Champ not pushed Roy. Sometimes one part of the play changes the whole outcome of the play. What looks like a bad throw by Romo could have been a good throw if Champ doesn't foul Roy. Or at least not as bad a throw as it appeared.

You guys act like Champ damn near pulled Roy's jersey off of him, it was a horrible pass made even worse by the chuck. If this was the only pass that was way off it might be believable.

 

[joseephuss]

You guys act like Champ damn near pulled Roy's jersey off of him, it was a horrible pass made even worse by the chuck. If this was the only pass that was way off it might be believable.

No, I know it was a bad pass, but that does not mean Romo hung him out. Champ did slow down Roy by pushing him. It only takes one step by Roy to be in a position not to get hit and Champ cost him at least that one step.

 

[Powerdad23]

Sometime in the 80's the NFL decided that their wasn't enough scoring so they eliminated "Bump & Run" techniques for the Def Backs. As players became bigger and faster, the helmet to helmet rule developed. Good rule. Back when pulling guards ( Thurston & Kramer ) weighted 250 ad ran 5.2 forties, those kind of rules weren't necessary. But today, when LB's weigh 250 and run 4.5 forties..it becomes a potentially deadly hit.

 

[Smith22]

When does that rule come in to play? That hit on RW after the missed catch looks exactly like what the rule was intended to prevent.

From the Baltimore Sun: http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/cs-070927askjerrymarkbreit,0,2103078.story

In the closing minutes of the Cardinals-Ravens game, Adrian Wilson was called for a personal foul when he delivered a hard hit to Ravens tight end Todd Heap. In explaining the foul, the referee made mention of Heap being a "defenseless receiver". Can you explain this "defenseless receiver" rule? -- Matt, Freehold, N.J.


All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected from unnecessary hits by the defense, which include helmet-to-helmet contact, helmet-to-body contact, and blows to the head. Intended receivers of forward passes who fail to catch the pass are considered to be in a defenseless position immediately after the pass is missed. If the pass is caught, all of these restrictions are off, unless in the opinion of the covering official, something unsportsmanlike occurs. In your play, the pass was missed by the tight end and he was unnecessarily hit by the defender. The announcement by the referee was excellent. The microphone is used to explain situations so that the public can understand what happened and why.