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AdamJT13;1884794 said:Sanders doesn't make nearly as many plays as Roy usually makes. .
LOL. USUALLY MAKES!!! LOL
AdamJT13;1884794 said:Sanders doesn't make nearly as many plays as Roy usually makes. .
Vtwin;1884826 said:LOL. USUALLY MAKES!!! LOL
Rampage;1884834 said:AP picks Colts' Sanders as top defensive player
Associated Press
Updated: January 7, 2008, 1:17 PM ET
NEW YORK -- Bob Sanders' impact on the vastly improved Indianapolis defense, not to mention his impact on opposing ball carriers, earned the Colts safety The Associated Press 2007 NFL Defensive Player of the Year award Monday.
Sanders makes highlight films with his smash-mouth style and knack for always being near the ball. His value as a leader -- the Peyton Manning of the Colts' defense, if you will -- was just as much a factor in Indianapolis having the third-ranked unit in the NFL and allowing just 262 points, a league low.
Yes, these Colts can play dominating defense, and Sanders is the main reason.
"One of the things we talked about when he first got here was how critical this position is in this defense," said coach Tony Dungy, who has nicknamed Sanders "The Eraser."
"Donnie Shell went to five Pro Bowls, and John Lynch went to I don't even know how many Pro Bowls. You get asked to do a lot of things in this defense, and it's rare to find someone who can do those things."
Sanders did enough to earn 31 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the NFL. That was particularly impressive because it was a strong season for individual defensive performances.
Yet next closest in the balloting were Seattle end Patrick Kerney and Tennessee tackle Albert Haynesworth with four votes each.
Sanders was a huge factor in the Colts' surge to the Super Bowl title last year. He missed most of the regular season, got healthy for the playoffs, and suddenly teams couldn't run or pass effectively on Indy.
With Sanders in the lineup for 15 games this season, the Colts were superb defensively on their way to a 13-3 record and the AFC South crown.
Not that Sanders laid back in an attempt to stay healthy.
"Coming in, that was my No. 1 goal, staying healthy. Sometimes, though, you can't prevent injuries from happening," he said.
One key to the Colts' stinginess has been moving Sanders closer to the line of scrimmage.
"I've had to adjust and I think I've adjusted well," Sanders said. "I was definitely a run stopper in college [at Iowa], but playing cover-2 or man coverage or whatever makes me better. I've tried to adjust because I want to do it.
"I enjoy it definitely. The strength of my game is being down in the box and I've got a good grasp of seeing what's going on. It's been a lot of work to do that since my rookie season."
Also receiving votes were defensive back Antonio Cromartie of San Diego with three; linebackers Mike Vrabel of New England and DeMarcus Ware of Dallas (2); and cornerback Ronde Barber of Tampa Bay, linebacker James Harrison of Pittsburgh, rookie linebacker Patrick Willis of San Francisco, and end Mario Williams of Houston, each with one vote.
Last year's winner was Miami end Jason Taylor.
Sanders is the first Colts player to win the award.
"To me, that's probably the biggest statement because the national perception is that we're an offensive team," Dungy said. "I thought for someone to win it on this team, it would take a big, big impact just to be considered."
Sanders credits his success and his style to how he was taught way back when.
"I would have to say it goes back to little league, pee-wee football," he said. "Those are some of the first things they teach you and that's something you remember as you grow up: stay low, stay low. It helps me now being explosive in short areas, because it's a combination of power, speed and quickness. You've got to bring it all together, and then you can come from 10 or 15 yards deep to make the play."
Lots of them.
pbthal;1884837 said:"Here you go, vtwin.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/search...earchid=378146
That's all the posts since the beginning of time by Adam containing the words "Tackles" and "Williams". I've done half the work for you already. There are only 30 posts. Have fun."
Waiting the results of your search
theogt;1884760 said:Oh, he's the "heart and soul" of the defense. That makes him DPOY. I was wondering. For a second there I thought it was based on some nebulous concept rendering comparisons between players useless. But now that I know it's based on being the "heart and soul" of a team, it's clear he's the hands down winner.
Man, this is just a BS, Sanders isn't the top defensive player, hell, I'd take Ware, Willis, Allen, and several other defensive players before Sanders, what a joke.AP picks Colts' Sanders as top defensive player
Glad we agree.nyc;1884880 said:I never said he was DPoY, hell, I've said that several times.
Who discounted what he brings to his team?What I said, is it's foolish to discount what he brings to his team.
Who claimed that he wasn't good? Saying he isn't great is far from saying he isn't good.All these people keep proclaiming that he isn't even that good.
Consideration? As in a passing thought? I can agree with that. As long as it passes quickly.He deserves consideration, I just don't believe he is DPoY.
Vtwin;1884360 said:Not embarrassed in the least.I am not going to sift through all the posts to find a few that prove my point but if push came to shove and I had a real compelling reason to do so I am absolutely confident that I could find the ones that I am remembering in which the stats man has used the tackles stat (among others) to make his case for #31. He has used the tackles stat to compare #31 against other strong safeties and against his own defensive teamates.THAT my friend IS A FACT and is documented right here in black and white on this very discussion forum.