DeMarco's last fumble

[BHendri5]

Actually Emmitt fumbled just as much, if not more than Murray

What the heck are you talking about?

 

[BHendri5]

Ignorant is what you is

No, that would be you, my friend

 

[BHendri5]

I posted in another thread how Emmitt had something close to twice as many fumbles after four years

you had better do some research, or better research

 

[AbeBeta]

What the heck are you talking about?

Demarco's 1st four years. 14 total fumbles playoffs included).

Emmitt Smith's 1st four years. 27 total fumbles.

Checkmate.

 

[AbeBeta]

you had better do some research, or better research

Clearly you are the one who didn't research this one bit

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Demarco's 1st four years. 14 total fumbles playoffs included).

Emmitt Smith's 1st four years. 27 total fumbles.

Checkmate.

To be thorough, I would figure Emmitt having an entire season's worth of extra carries over those four years in to the analysis...

 

[Nightman]

Martin did make a helluva block and cleaned his man up, Murray has to get through that huge hole and HOLD ON TO THE BALL. Martin did his job.

You have3 to be joking. Martin whiffed.

 

[Nightman]

Murray's fumble, not recovering the fumbled kickoff return, and Dez's catch were the 3 biggest plays in the game. Hanna had the ball right there! We could've stepped on their throats at that point. We pissed that game away. No doubt we could've beaten Seattle again and we'd be going for #6 one week from today. Ughhh....

I would say the TD to Adams was bigger than any of those plays. 3rd and 16 and a ton of YAC

Why do fans always wanna look back on the plays that could've been made, instead of the actual plays that beat us

 

[joseephuss]

Number of touches for each fumble(regular season only)

Emmitt Smith
1990 37.86
1991 51.75
1992 108.00
1993 85.00
1994 418.00
1995 62.71
1996 74.80
1997 301.00
1998 115.33
1999 71.20
2000 50.83
2001 278.00
2002 90.00
2003 52.00
2004 70.50

After first four seasons 63.09

Career 80.72

DeMarco Murray
2011 190.00
2012 65.00
2013 90.00
2014 74.83

Career 84.92

 

[Nightman]

I hated both scenarios (Murray's because there was an Interstate's worth of real estate available to him if he reaches the second level). But, I have to lend credence to the fact that the end of the 1st half nightmare was a six point swing. We lost by 5. *sigh*

We only scored 7 points in the second half and let Rodgers rip us apart, but lets look back to a long field goal attempt in bad weather on shoddy footing.

 

[JD_KaPow]

To be thorough, I would figure Emmitt having an entire season's worth of extra carries over those four years in to the analysis...

It's not hard to find the numbers.

Emmitt Smith, career: one fumble every 81 touches.
Emmitt Smith, first four seasons: one fumble every 63 touches.
DeMarco Murray, career: one fumble every 85 touches.
DeMarco Murray, 2014: one fumble every 75 touches.

Yes, Emmitt fumbled more than DeMarco does.

 

[Nightman]

What the heck are you talking about?

Try reading the thread

 

[JD_KaPow]

I regularly peruse here, participate plenty too and surprised I'm not seeing the angst on DeMarco's 3rd quarter fumble that I hold as being huge and unacceptable. He proved to be a workhorse this year but that one play, when we needed him most, he didn't deliver, period! With a potential new contact looming, that fail was a back breaker and shouldn't be glazed over......

Really? You're going to make your decision on Murray based on one play? I'm glad you're not the GM.

I'm also trying to get my head around this idea that players can control when the fumbles are going to come. As in, they say to themselves, "Okay, this is a really big game, can't fumble in this one," and as a result, they don't. Which makes me wonder why they don't just do that all the time.

(Note that I'm not talking about those end-of-game garbage time runs where you just wrap up the ball with two hands and don't care if you gain yards or not. Sure, you can minimize fumbles that way, but you won't be productive.)

 

[Nightman]

Really? You're going to make your decision on Murray based on one play? I'm glad you're not the GM.

I'm also trying to get my head around this idea that players can control when the fumbles are going to come. As in, they say to themselves, "Okay, this is a really big game, can't fumble in this one," and as a result, they don't. Which makes me wonder why they don't just do that all the time.

(Note that I'm not talking about those end-of-game garbage time runs where you just wrap up the ball with two hands and don't care if you gain yards or not. Sure, you can minimize fumbles that way, but you won't be productive.)

That is one fumble that really shouldn't be on Murray. He has it fully covered up against his body when Peppers dives at him from the side and hits the ball perfectly with a huge paw. If Martin holds his block for a even a moment longer Peppers never gets a chance to lunge at him.

The ones you can blame on Murray are the ones when he won't just go down and tries to touch when too many defenders are around. All turnovers hurt, but people want to hang Murray out to dry while ignoring mistakes from guys like Dez and Martin.

 

[AbeBeta]

Try reading the thread

It is funny how badly BHendri5 is getting owned here

 

[JoeBoBBY]

yes, a heck of a play by Peppers but think Emmitt, in that situation, would have delivered - something to be said about that. That turnover prevented the boys from putting the Packers and the game away

I dont believe you can assume that . Emmitt had plenty of fumbles.

And go ahead......find your next emmitt.....i challenge you

 

[KJJ]

I regularly peruse here, participate plenty too and surprised I'm not seeing the angst on DeMarco's 3rd quarter fumble that I hold as being huge and unacceptable. He proved to be a workhorse this year but that one play, when we needed him most, he didn't deliver, period! With a potential new contact looming, that fail was a back breaker and shouldn't be glazed over......

There was too much angst over the reversal of Dez's catch to talk about anything else.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Martin did make a helluva block and cleaned his man up, Murray has to get through that huge hole and HOLD ON TO THE BALL. Martin did his job.

Look at the dive by peppers. Great play by him. I think and its My guess only. Is Murray did NOT except that, which is why he was looking for "more". Having said that. i agree with other ...."Two hands on ball within 5 yards." Fundamentals!

 

[MWH1967]

There was too much angst over the reversal of Dez's catch to talk about anything else.

yep, pretty much.

 

[sbark]

I'd like to see a gif/ of the entire play. Thinking Peppers set up Martin like the play was going behind him after he knew Martin position prevented a tackle, and this reach for the ball was the best Peppers could do. Peppers made a move up field, martin reacted like DeMarc was going deeper in the backfield and that allowed Peppers, the old vet he is, to at least make the play he did......something Martin can store away for the next 10 years.