DeMarcus Ware: Bill Parcells Wanted to Draft Shawne Merriman

[visionary]

Yeah I'm going to believe the jerry apologists

Telling Ware what Merriman was doing is the oldest motivation technique in the book and does not mean he did not want him

It is true the BP was over the hill when he came here but was still leagues better than jerry or the high school HC Jason Garrett

 

[diefree666]

Parcells walks on water for a lot of fans. Truth is, he couldn't draft an offensive lineman to save his life. Every guy he picked was a bust. He passed up so much talent to put together his 3-4 defense that was average at best. Could have had Ware and Aaron Rogers in that draft. Dallas needed a QB. But he takes a 3-4 DE high in the first round. Parcells wanted to shop for all the groceries but he had no idea what isle to start looking.

yeah he is in the HOF for nothing.

You BP haters make me laugh.

Try and find another coach that could have won 10 games with what we had in 2003. Q as the QB and Hambone as the RB and a patchwork O line; and a D that had one great year in it. 2004 was a very good example of how you can go just so far with smoke and mirrors before the need for real talent so very clear. DTaht draft of 2005 was probably the third or fourth best draft in the history of the franchise. Yeah BP was wrong about Merriman; so were a LOT of others. And its hard to remember that Deware was indeed a very late riser in the draft that had a lot of doubters.
Sadly it was too late in his career for BP to do as much as he probably wanted to. He was burnt out and old. If we could have gotten him even maybe 5 years earlier...

oh and by the way it was BP that rebuilt the scouting department and got rid of losers like Broaddus. It takes a while for those guys to get their feet so odds are that some of the mistakes made in drafting were due to that.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah I'm going to believe the jerry apologists

Telling Ware what Merriman was doing is the oldest motivation technique in the book and does not mean he did not want him

It is true the BP was over the hill when he came here but was still leagues better than jerry or the high school HC Jason Garrett

Ware is the one saying BP did not want him, Is Ware an apologist or is it the fact that people are pig headed because they don't like Jerry.

 

[diefree666]

Ware is the one saying BP did not want him, Is Ware an apologist or is it the fact that people are pig headed because they don't like Jerry.

deware is being as usual honest and repeating what BP told him. Now how much of that was BP playing his mind games? Only BP knows.

Its like in the movie Patton where he tells his aide its only important for HIM to know when he is acting and when he is not. BP was absolutely the same way.

How many other LBs have BP compared Taylor? THAT to me says it all as what BP really thought of Ware.

 

[Seven]

Ware is the one saying BP did not want him, Is Ware an apologist or is it the fact that people are pig headed because they don't like Jerry.

jerry has done more damage to this team than BP ever could've.

And you want to talk about pig-headed.........jed's the poster boy.

 

[Doomsday101]

deware is being as usual honest and repeating what BP told him. Now how much of that was BP playing his mind games? Only BP knows.

Its like in the movie Patton where he tells his aide its only important for HIM to know when he is acting and when he is not. BP was absolutely the same way.

How many other LBs have BP compared Taylor? THAT to me says it all as what BP really thought of Ware.

Mind game? Parcells said he would rather take Marcus Spears with the 11th pick. We know this already. BP did not want Terry Glenn with NE and would later prove himself and he did form a relation with BP. It was also BP who moaned to about Kraft and bolted for New York Jets after 1996 Super Bowl season when Kraft wouldn't let him 'shop for groceries'

I think NE knew that they were doing in terms of getting groceries.

I think BP is a great HC I don't think he is or ever has been a great personnel director.

 

[Doomsday101]

jerry has done more damage to this team than BP ever could've.

And you want to talk about pig-headed.........jed's the poster boy.

I have never said Jerry has not made bad choices he has but I am not that pig headed to avoid giving credit when it is due. I don't play that game where you trash people yet will not give credit when they do right.

I see the same thing happening to Garrett where anytime this team has success it is someone else as the reason but any failure falls on Garrett. I'm at least consistent I give him credit and blame since he is the HC I don't play this childish game of I don't like him there fore I will not give him any credit.

 

[ghst187]

I remember the debates here and inside info. I also remembered BP wanted Spears at 11. I remember SM gained like 30 pounds between his last game and the draft and that was big red flags for me. I remember liking big WR mike Williams that fortunately for us, was taken by Detroit right before our pick, yet another big bust on a WR by Detroit in the first round. In whiffed on that guy too. I liked Ware fine. I was excited to get Spears later in the first as I'll never forget that incredibly athletic play he made against OU in the NC game, INT. However, he was pretty disappointing and looking back, we would've been a 100x better off using the 22nd pick the previous year on RB Steven Jackson and forego the extra pick we used on Spears

 

[diefree666]

Mind game? Parcells said he would rather take Marcus Spears with the 11th pick. We know this already. BP did not want Terry Glenn with NE and would later prove himself and he did form a relation with BP. It was also BP who moaned to about Kraft and bolted for New York Jets after 1996 Super Bowl season when Kraft wouldn't let him 'shop for groceries'

I think NE knew that they were doing in terms of getting groceries.

I think BP is a great HC I don't think he is or ever has been a great personnel director.

BP was wanting to build a 3-4 and at that time we had NO one that could really play DE in that defense. Your need to downgrade BP wars with reality. He had to balance what was needed by what was available and when. It was not until the last couple of weeks before the draft that Ware emerged as a possible top 10 pick. Spears was considered a pretty sure thing and the best 3-4 DE in the draft. First things first as the boys finally learned: build the LINE first and work from there. As it turned out we got really lucky with Canty and Spears both and we had our starting DE's after moving Ellis to OLB (which was not a sure thing either).

 

[DFWJC]

BP liked both Spears and Merriman better than Ware.
This is known fact.

It happens.
Just be glad it worked out in our favor.

Kind of like Dallas liked

1. Wentz,
2. Goff,
3. Lynch,
4. Cook
5. maybe Hackenberg too (not sure about Kessler or Brissett)

ALL better than Prescott.

It happens...again

JUST BE GLAD IT WORKED OUT in our favor (so far)

 

[Doomsday101]

BP was wanting to build a 3-4 and at that time we had NO one that could really play DE in that defense. Your need to downgrade BP wars with reality. He had to balance what was needed by what was available and when. It was not until the last couple of weeks before the draft that Ware emerged as a possible top 10 pick. Spears was considered a pretty sure thing and the best 3-4 DE in the draft. First things first as the boys finally learned: build the LINE first and work from there. As it turned out we got really lucky with Canty and Spears both and we had our starting DE's after moving Ellis to OLB (which was not a sure thing either).

No matter how you cut it Ware was a better prospect than Spears and it would have been a big mistake had we taken at 11, Spears hell in 9 season in the NFL he had a total of 10 career sacks. Fact is BP is a great HC he is not a great personnel man. He threw a fit with Kraft in NE about buying the grocery I think NE purchasing of so called grocery has worked out great for them.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hell if people would like I will blame Jerry for not over ruling BP on taking Bobby Carpenter. lol

 

[Teague31]

Very overrated personnel man

 

[RoboQB]

Somehow Merriman lasted 8 years but did virtully nothing after year 3. He only played in 33 games his last 5 years. He did leave with one contribution: his lights out dance.

When I think of Merriman, I think of MJD laying him out.

 

[RoboQB]

Very overrated personnel man

Agreed.

Most of them take too much credit when, in fact, they wanted someone else.
Dare I say, Jimmy Johnson was guilty of this as well.
We almost drafted James Francis over Emmitt Smith.

 

[SlammedZero]

I'm not taking away from Parcell's coaching or Hall of Fame career, but I will say this, I thought he had a better eye for talent. Looking back now, some of his picks make me scratch my head. At the time, and maybe it was because I was younger, I bought into every move Parcell made. Even Bobby Carpenter. Now, *** was that? haha

 

[bigdnlaca]

My opinion is that we now know that Ware was the better player. Merriman was good for the first couple of years but that was based by scheme of Phillips.

However, I feel that if Cowboys got Merriman and Ware went to San Diego, Ware would of still been a HOF in the Chargers system because they kept the 3-4 after Phillips left and their defense was a lot better than the Cowboys during most of the years. Merriman wouldn't have done so well in Dallas (especially during Rob Ryan's scheme).

 

[visionary]

Ware is the one saying BP did not want him, Is Ware an apologist or is it the fact that people are pig headed because they don't like Jerry.

Can you show me the Ware quote in that piece where he says that BP did not want to draft him?

You and the other jerry apologists are taking his comments and trying to build a false narrative around them

Either show me the quote or admit you were making stuff up

I'll wait

 

[Doomsday101]

Can you show me the Ware quote in that piece where he says that BP did not want to draft him?

You and the other jerry apologists are taking his comments and trying to build a false narrative around them

Either show me the quote or admit you were making stuff up

I'll wait

"On my visit to the Dallas Cowboys they tell me "We're not interested" so in my mind I'm thinking probably going to Carolina or San Diego and then as soon as the 11th pick in the 2005 draft comes up, the Dallas Cowboys pick me."

BP action where to stake Spears at 11 but was over ruled on that. As for apologist sorry wrong guy I don't mind saying I disagree or Dallas (Jerry) made a bad move what I will not do is act as if anything good is someone else and all that is bad falls on Jerry. As far as I'm concerned every move good or bad falls on Jerry is he the Owner he is the GM regardless if you like it or not that is just the way it is. It is laughable how so many of you will try and claim "Oh Jerry had nothing to do with a pick unless the pick fails"

Myself I will but then I don't pick and choose who to credit or blame.

I don't need to make anything up, I don't spin crap like you do

 

[Doomsday101]

Hell if you like I will put the entire blame on Jerry for the 2006 NFL draft where BP talked up Bobby Carpenter, then followed up with Fasano, Hatcher, Skyler Green and Pat Wakins. Jerry really needed to over ride those picks.

I give Credit to Parcells as a HC as for buying his on grocery he has never been good at that. He took over that job as head of football operations with the Dolphins after leaving Dallas and those picks greatly failed.