DeMarcus Ware: Bill Parcells Wanted to Draft Shawne Merriman

[darthseinfeld]

Bill felt that defensive end in a 3-4 was more important at their stage of development.

This. And coming out of college Spears looked like a real playmaker

 

[Proximo]

That's correct.

I think these guys get a little full of themselves after tasting a little success.

I can only imagine how large the egos of these NFL coaches/executives can grow to. I bet some of these dudes are just impossible to deal with. We only see such a small view.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Jerry's right once in awhile. It doesn't excuse the rest. And as great as Ware was he was about the only great player we had on defense for years. Except for maybe Sean Lee who was plagued by injuries for year.

 

[lostar2009]

Parcells walks on water for a lot of fans. Truth is, he couldn't draft an offensive lineman to save his life. Every guy he picked was a bust. He passed up so much talent to put together his 3-4 defense that was average at best. Could have had Ware and Aaron Rogers in that draft. Dallas needed a QB. But he takes a 3-4 DE high in the first round. Parcells wanted to shop for all the groceries but he had no idea what isle to start looking.

Although some was true the fact is for some time in 2006 the Cowboys had a top 10 defense.

 

[JohnsKey19]

it only got better the following year when Dollar Bill took Bobby Carpenter in the 1st round. Where was Ireland when we really needed him????

 

[Idgit]

"On my visit to the Dallas Cowboys they tell me "We're not interested" so in my mind I'm thinking probably going to Carolina or San Diego and then as soon as the 11th pick in the 2005 draft comes up, the Dallas Cowboys pick me."

Lol.

 

[visionary]

"On my visit to the Dallas Cowboys they tell me "We're not interested" so in my mind I'm thinking probably going to Carolina or San Diego and then as soon as the 11th pick in the 2005 draft comes up, the Dallas Cowboys pick me."

BP action where to stake Spears at 11 but was over ruled on that. As for apologist sorry wrong guy I don't mind saying I disagree or Dallas (Jerry) made a bad move what I will not do is act as if anything good is someone else and all that is bad falls on Jerry. As far as I'm concerned every move good or bad falls on Jerry is he the Owner he is the GM regardless if you like it or not that is just the way it is. It is laughable how so many of you will try and claim "Oh Jerry had nothing to do with a pick unless the pick fails"

Myself I will but then I don't pick and choose who to credit or blame.

I don't need to make anything up, I don't spin crap like you do

"ON MY VISIT THE DALLAS COWBOYS SAID WERE NOT INTERESTED"

and you made up a story the Parcells didn't want him

Why did you say BP and not Jerry when Ware said "the Dallas Cowboys"?

Sounds like you do "pick and choose who to blame" and "spin crap" to me

You were wrong and clearly made it up to feed an anti-parcels narrative

 

[Doomsday101]

Jerry's right once in awhile. It doesn't excuse the rest. And as great as Ware was he was about the only great player we had on defense for years. Except for maybe Sean Lee who was plagued by injuries for year.

I don't disagree. Every move good or bad falls on Jerry he is the owner and GM any move made by any HC, scout or palm reader still falls on Jerry. He is the final word so anyone out there thinking I'm excusing Jerry for anything is wrong but I will not discredit him for things that have gone right and players who have been successful within this organization.

 

[Doomsday101]

"ON MY VISIT THE DALLAS COWBOYS SAID WERE NOT INTERESTED"

and you made up a story the Parcells didn't want him

Why did you say BP and not Jerry when Ware said "the Dallas Cowboys"?

Sounds like you do "pick and choose who to blame" and "spin crap" to me

You were wrong and clearly made it up to feed an anti-parcels narrative

Who the hell is players coming to visit? When Dak came into meet with the Cowboys it was Jason Garrett he was meeting with. Also BP own action says a lot, he wanted Merriman and wanted to select Spears over Ware action count for something. Why did it take Ireland to convince Jerry to over ride what Parcells wanted?

 

[xwalker]

DeMarcus Ware appeared on The Rich Eisen Show Wednesday and essentially detailed his NFL origin story. Sports Day Dallas Fort Worth transcribed part of the interview, but most interestingly, Ware detailed just how much Bill Parcells seemed to dislike him early in his career.

"On my visit to the Dallas Cowboys they tell me "We're not interested" so in my mind I'm thinking probably going to Carolina or San Diego and then as soon as the 11th pick in the 2005 draft comes up, the Dallas Cowboys pick me."


Dallas wound up becoming the perfect destination for Ware, but it took some time for him to prove himself to his coach. Parcells was enamored of former Maryland linebacker Shawne Merriman and let Ware know it.

"He was one of the coaches who played the most mind games with me the whole time. Every single day if I didn't hear about Shawne Merriman - "You know Shawne Merriman had three sacks? You didn't have any. Shawne Merriman might be rookie of the year. I don't know if you'll be able to do that."

Ware finished his career with 138.5 sacks, but were it not for Merriman, Parcells may never have given him the chance he needed to become a Hall of Fame pass-rusher.

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/DeMarcus-Ware-Bill-Parcells-Wanted-to-Draft-Shawne-Merriman-53398744

On the flip side, Parcells said during Ware's rookie training camp that he reminded him of Lawrence Taylor.

Parcells loved to hassle players. He constantly called Witten a pretty boy, finesse TE. He repeatedly told Ratliff that he was not talented enough to stay in the NFL for long. He called out Spears and Canty in the media for lack of production and rode Spears about keeping his weight down.

 

[Doomsday101]

On the flip side, Parcells said during Ware's rookie training camp that he reminded him of Lawrence Taylor.

Parcells loved to hassle players. He constantly called Witten a pretty boy, finesse TE. He repeatedly told Ratliff that he was not talented enough to stay in the NFL for long. He called out Spears and Canty in the media for lack of production and rode Spears about keeping his weight down.

I never said that Parcells never gave Ware a chance he did. Parcells got upset in NE when they took Terry Glenn but grew to appreciate the talent of Glenn and became a favorite of Parcells. I think Parcells is a very good HC and he deserved to be in the HOF but when it came to drafting Parcells is not a master mind. He complained to Kraft about wanting to buy the grocery yet it seems to me Kraft's way of getting players has worked very well for the Pats.

 

[Idgit]

Jerry's right once in awhile. It doesn't excuse the rest. And as great as Ware was he was about the only great player we had on defense for years. Except for maybe Sean Lee who was plagued by injuries for year.

This stuff is pretty stupid if you stop and think about it. Both Ware and Merriman were really good players coming out, and everybody knew it. It's been well-documented that Ware wanted Spears at #11, that he and Stephen worked it out, and that he was pretty grumpy until they landed Spears later in the round, at which point he was happy.

That was also the draft they took Canty and Ratliff on defense, and Marion Barber, too. I think there's enough credit to go around for everybody. By the time it was all said and done, Ware was a Parcels guy. We don't have to pretend he was the one Bill wanted at #11 for it to have been a good day for both Jerry and Bill.

All that aside, I love these Parcels stories where he's pushing the players buttons to get the best out of him. He's a Giants legend, and I hate his stupid 3-4 defense, but Bill was great for Dallas, and he's an NFL icon. I think we all get that, don't we?

 

[visionary]

Who the hell is players coming to visit? When Dak came into meet with the Cowboys it was Jason Garrett he was meeting with. Also BP own action says a lot, he wanted Merriman and wanted to select Spears over Ware action count for something. Why did it take Ireland to convince Jerry to over ride what Parcells wanted?

Your direct quote is "Ware is the one saying Parcells did not want him, is ware a jerry apologist?"

I'm asking you to show us all where Ware said that parcels didn't want to draft him since it is nowhere in the article.

 

[Doomsday101]

Your direct quote is "Ware is the one saying Parcells did not want him, is ware a jerry apologist?"

I'm asking you to show us all where Ware said that parcels didn't want to draft him since it is nowhere in the article.

I showed the comment, players coming to a team for a visit are meeting with the HC common knowledge. 2nd Parcells wanted Spears over Ware that is prove in his own action. Only reason that Ware was selected was because Jerry over ruled Parcells.

 

[visionary]

I showed the comment, players coming to a team for a visit are meeting with the HC common knowledge. 2nd Parcells wanted Spears over Ware that is prove in his own action. Only reason that Ware was selected was because Jerry over ruled Parcells.

So Ware only met Parcells and not Jerry

Ok

 

[lukin2006]

I tend to think Parcell's was over rated...

 

[Doomsday101]

So Ware only met Parcells and not Jerry

Ok

Jerry is the one who over ruled Parcells on drafting him. The disagreement was with Ireland and Parcells on the 11th overall pick and it was Jones who sided with Ireland to select Ware

 

[visionary]

Jerry is the one who over ruled Parcells on drafting him. The disagreement was with Ireland and Parcells on the 11th overall pick and it was Jones who sided with Ireland to select Ware

But where, in this piece, does Ware say that Parcells did not want to draft him?

That was your original statement, so please show me

 

[Doomsday101]

But where, in this piece, does Ware say that Parcells did not want to draft him?

That was your original statement, so please show me

Parcells did not want to draft him at 11 he wanted Spears that is well documented, Ware indicated they did not want him. Who is they? Well evidently they was not Ireland and Jerry they choose to select him so that leave 1 man who do you think? Damn you hate Jerry that bad? lol As I have said you or anyone else wants to blame Jerry for everything since he bought the team until today, fine he is the GM it falls directly on his shoulders no matter who is trying to persuade him, in the end it comes with Jerry approval. So Jerry did not want him but took him at 11? LOL

Believe what you choose

 

[gimmesix]

Fact is BP wanted Spears over Ware as well

There was a time when people wondered if the Cowboys made the right decision in drafting DeMarcus Ware over Merriman.

For this, you can -- wait for it -- thank Jerry Jones.

It's easy to bash Jones for everything that has gone wrong with the Cowboys, but the decision to draft Ware with the 11th overall pick in 2005 was his. When the Cowboys came to work for the first round of the draft that year, many inside the building thought Merriman would have been the Cowboys' pick.

Bill Parcells always liked guys from bigger schools, and Maryland is just a little bigger than Ware’s Troy.

But Jones went with Ware, even after Parcells said he would rather take Marcus Spears with the 11th pick. Parcells was not exactly pleased at the time, but then the Cowboys got Spears with the 20th pick and the coach’s mood brightened.

This isn’t to say Parcells didn’t want or didn’t like Ware. In his first comments after the selection he compared Ware to Lawrence Taylor, and throwing around compliments was not exactly something Parcells did a lot.

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cow...5/another-sign-demarcus-ware-was-right-choice

I think Parcells saw 3-4 end as his bigger need at that time and didn't think he could get Spears as late as he did. I certainly wasn't for drafting a 3-4 end at 11. That kind of pick needed to be used on a pass rusher. Who knew Ware would be that pass rusher.