Demaryius Thomas offered deal to be 2nd highest paid receiver

[Nightman]

If he were to hit the open market, he would get paid more than Calvin Johnson, without a doubt. The only reason the team can insist on not paying him that much is because the team has leverage over him with the franchise tag.

Even with inflation no one is giving Dez and Demaryious CJ money.

 

[ShiningStar]

The Calvin Johnson contract (on a per year basis) represented about 13.2% of the 2013 salary cap. A contract representing 13.2% of the 2015 salary cap would be about $18.9 million per year annually.

If you simply gave Dez 16.2 million per year for 7 years (which is what CJ got), that'd actually represent about a 15% discount to CJ's deal relative to percentage of the salary cap.

That's the math these receivers are doing.

wait wait wait, i got my acabus out, i got green dots over here, red dots over there, am i getting paid or screwed?

 

[AtlCB]

Thomas is insane if he thinks the Broncos are going to pay him more than Megatron!

 

[StarBoyz83]

That's about what's fair for both parties. Give dez 30 mil guaranteed 6-7 years 70ish million. He wants more than don't know what else to say. There's more than 3 other wrs that outperform him not including johnson.

 

[Wood]

I expect Denver to be prudent with contract terms. They didn't become a top tier team by acting like Commanders. Lets hope Thomas gets signed first and Dallas works off of that.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That's about what's fair for both parties. Give dez 30 mil guaranteed 6-7 years 70ish million. He wants more than don't know what else to say. There's more than 3 other wrs that outperform him not including johnson.

You want to offer Dez a deal less than what Maclin averages per year? LOL

 

[DandyDon52]

the denver owner should tell thomas the offer is now withdrawn, you will be tagged for 2 years , but in that 1 years you will not be thrown a pass,
and will only be on the field briefly in bad weather games .
you wont be allowed to practice with other players or with 1st team .
See how they react to not playing at all. and being humbled.

 

[CCBoy]

Report: Broncos offer Demaryius Thomas more than $12 million per year
Posted by Mike Florio on July 13, 2015, 9:17 PM EDT
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...maryius-thomas-more-than-12-million-per-year/

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As the Broncos and receiver Demaryius Thomas close in on the deadline for finalizing a long-term deal, some numbers are leaking regarding the negotiations.

Specifically, it looks like the team is leaking some numbers regarding the negotiations to support the reasonableness of its proposals.

According to Mike Klis of KUSA-TV in Denver, the Broncos have offered Thomas a multi-year deal with an average value of more than $12 million per year. That would put Thomas at No. 2 among all receivers, second only to Calvin Johnson’s $16 million-per-year package and ahead of Mike Wallace, who signed a deal worth $12 million on the open market in 2013.

That definitely seems reasonable, on the surface. But the starting point for the Thomas deal should be the franchise tender of $12.8 million in 2015 and the second-year franchise tag value of $15.36 million in 2016 — which equates to more than $28 million over the first two years, an average of more than $14 million right out of the gates.

For the same reason Calvin Johnson’s deal isn’t relevant to Thomas, contracts signed by other receivers also aren’t relevant, either. For Thomas and the Broncos, the question isn’t what other players are making but whether the Broncos will offer enough on a long-term deal to persuade the player to give up the ability to make $12.8 million in 2015 plus the opportunity to earn a 20-percent raise — or to hit the open market — in 2016.

So while an average of more than $12 million looks good in a vacuum, it doesn’t properly reflect the business leverage Thomas has in light of the franchise tag.

For the same reason Calvin Johnson’s deal isn’t relevant to Thomas, contracts signed by other receivers also aren’t relevant, either. For Thomas and the Broncos, the question isn’t what other players are making but whether the Broncos will offer enough on a long-term deal to persuade the player to give up the ability to make $12.8 million in 2015 plus the opportunity to earn a 20-percent raise — or to hit the open market — in 2016.

So while an average of more than $12 million looks good in a vacuum, it doesn’t properly reflect the business leverage Thomas has in light of the franchise tag.

 

[CCBoy]

The real advantage for Thomas and Bryant, is the value of a franchised value for this and next season. That sets the bottom levels of their respective values.

But the real negotiated problem comes in with the team attempting to put a 'life insurance' policy on the deal. Both players will be out of the maximum production levels once a projected contract runs it's course. Also, at the values being demanded, an injury or misconduct can actually put a hand cuffing on effectiveness of current cap pictures. Not a small item for the teams.

 

[ghst187]

This

This I agree with

Probably why the guy is trying to get paid now. The Broncos have proven to be fools to overpay for declining talent too so I'd be trying to strike while the purse is wide open too.
That said, I'd pay des his franchise numbers this year and next and wish him well. Assuredly by then his numbers will start declining or shortly thereafter and who wants a thirty yr old declining WR sucking up a huge chunk of cap?

 

[StarBoyz83]

You want to offer Dez a deal less than what Maclin averages per year? LOL

13-13.5 mill a year is the most they should do. My numbers didn't add up lol.

 

[VACowboy]

...play hardball for the money he feels he deserves...

What he DESERVES????

(bites his tongue and walks away)

 

[casmith07]

Dez Bryant himself has said he's okay with $13M, but he wants security (years and guarantee).

 

[visionary]

The Calvin Johnson contract (on a per year basis) represented about 13.2% of the 2013 salary cap. A contract representing 13.2% of the 2015 salary cap would be about $18.9 million per year annually.

If you simply gave Dez 16.2 million per year for 7 years (which is what CJ got), that'd actually represent about a 15% discount to CJ's deal relative to percentage of the salary cap.

That's the math these receivers are doing.

I love the word "simply" in your post

 

[visionary]

Once Peyton leaves, Thomas will be just another guy.

Once Romo leaves .....

 

[visionary]

If he were to hit the open market, he would get paid more than Calvin Johnson, without a doubt. The only reason the team can insist on not paying him that much is because the team has leverage over him with the franchise tag.

Dez needs to stop acting like a petulant child
Come 7/15 his leverage is gone
His handlers will tell him that
Cowboys are doing the right thing

 

[CATCH17]

I love Dez and Demaryius but the price for receivers is getting absolutely out of control/


The only players worth 15 mill a year are QB's and MAYBE.. MAYBE Adrian Peterson in his prime.


People are worried that we'll suck without Dez but I don't believe that to be the case..

As long as you have an elite QB there is always hope and I think we could win the division this year WITHOUT Dez.

 

[gimmesix]

@MySportsUpdate: Broncos have offered DeMariyus Thomas a deal which pays him $12M annually.

You know dez wants 15-16. So does demarius probably. These teams are gonna have to bite it seems

Or just force them to play for the franchise tag. Dez would probably miss some camp if it comes down to that, maybe all of it, but I doubt he would miss games and cost himself money, especially with Dallas no longer able to negotiate with him this year.

 

[CCBoy]

Dez Bryant himself has said he's okay with $13M, but he wants security (years and guarantee).

Sir, this is one player I would sign and walk the full trail with. You either stand by your men, or they are employees.

I have to believe that Jerry will walk with this one, and Stephen may have to come around some...

 

[erod]

Is any wide receiver worth 13 percent of your salary cap?