Denver to release Dumervil

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News is that Denver will release Dumervil Friday at 2pm if he does not take the pay cut they have offered to him. Just turn 29, same age of Spencer with double the career sacks.
 

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I believe releasing Spencer in order to sign Dumervil long term would make a lot more sense, than hoping that Spencer can make the transition back to the 4-3 and hoping that he can produce at a high level in non contract years...

Get it done Jerry.

Ware + Hatcher + Ratliff + Dumervil

Championship
 

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In fact, you trade Spencer for a 3rd round draft pick, pick up dumervil and its a double win...
 

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Galian Beast;5024269 said:
I believe releasing Spencer in order to sign Dumervil long term would make a lot more sense, than hoping that Spencer can make the transition back to the 4-3 and hoping that he can produce at a high level in non contract years...

Get it done Jerry.

Ware + Hatcher + Ratliff + Dumervil

Championship

He signed his franchise tag. The money's guaranteed. Besides, where are you gonna play Dumerville? On the strong side? Good luck with that.
 

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Galian Beast;5024269 said:
I believe releasing Spencer in order to sign Dumervil long term would make a lot more sense, than hoping that Spencer can make the transition back to the 4-3 and hoping that he can produce at a high level in non contract years...

Get it done Jerry.

Ware + Hatcher + Ratliff + Dumervil

Championship


Dumervil just refused to take less than $12 million.....Spencer reports say he is willing to negotiate ...I dont see the win in that scenario
 

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texbumthelife;5024274 said:
He will want more than Spencer. No thanks.

He will want more than Spencer? No. Spencer probably wants just as much as he does, but Dumervil is much better and much more proven.

I'd rather go with the sure thing with Dumervil AND get a pick for Spencer. It just makes much more sense. Quite literally a perfect storm.

It would be like trading Spencer for Dumervil and a 2nd or 3rd... Obviously you do it.
 

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Picksix;5024280 said:
He signed his franchise tag. The money's guaranteed. Besides, where are you gonna play Dumerville? On the strong side? Good luck with that.

#1 He has played on the strong side before.
#2 I don't think the money is guaranteed if he is traded. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.
 

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dadymat;5024281 said:
Dumervil just refused to take less than $12 million.....Spencer reports say he is willing to negotiate ...I dont see the win in that scenario

Last I heard Jerry said that Spencer wants more than he is willing to pay... Please give me your updated information on Spencer negotiating.
 

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Galian Beast;5024286 said:
Last I heard Jerry said that Spencer wants more than he is willing to pay... Please give me your updated information on Spencer negotiating.

didnt say he was negotiating, I said reports say he is willing to negotiate,....and thats the reporting ive heard supposedly from his people....I dont if its right or wrong.....either way Spencer isnt gonna cost us $12 million we dont have
 

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Galian Beast;5024284 said:
#1 He has played on the strong side before.
#2 I don't think the money is guaranteed if he is traded. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.

You're correct, about the money not being guaranteed if he's traded. I was referring to your post where you were talking about Jerry releasing him.
 

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Galian Beast;5024284 said:
#1 He has played on the strong side before.
#2 I don't think the money is guaranteed if he is traded. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.
Dumervil isn't going to stop the run as a strong side end. He's 5-11 260 and that has never been his thing. Denver had him on the weak side end for a reason. Of course Spencer's money is guaranteed, another team would want him to agree to a new contract.
 

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dadymat;5024292 said:
didnt say he was negotiating, I said reports say he is willing to negotiate,....and thats the reporting ive heard supposedly from his people....I dont if its right or wrong.....either way Spencer isnt gonna cost us $12 million we dont have

No, Spencer is costing us 10 million this year, and probably wants upwards of that per year. I'd much rather spend the extra 2 million on Dumervil, not that we would have to pay him 12 million this year (please see Brandon Carr).

Trade Spencer for a 2nd or 3rd (whatever it takes to trade him and get value) and then sign Dumervil to a 12 million a year deal (which is cheap for his skill level). Just needs to be more cap friendly than Mario Williams deal.
 

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speedkilz88;5024296 said:
Dumervil isn't going to stop the run as a strong side end. He's 5-11 260 and that has never been his thing. Denver had him on the weak side end for a reason. Of course Spencer's money is guaranteed, another team would want him to agree to a new contract.

You put your best pass rusher on the weak side, which is why he was there. That being said he has been moved around the line, and has been on the strong side before. You can ignore that reality, which is fine, but it doesn't strengthen your argument.
 

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Galian Beast;5024299 said:
You put your best pass rusher on the weak side, which is why he was there. That being said he has been moved around the line, and has been on the strong side before. You can ignore that reality, which is fine, but it doesn't strengthen your argument.
You're ignoring reality, he isn't going to stop the run there. They would have to move Ware to the strong side.
 

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Galian Beast;5024298 said:
No, Spencer is costing us 10 million this year, and probably wants upwards of that per year. I'd much rather spend the extra 2 million on Dumervil, not that we would have to pay him 12 million this year (please see Brandon Carr).

Trade Spencer for a 2nd or 3rd (whatever it takes to trade him and get value) and then sign Dumervil to a 12 million a year deal (which is cheap for his skill level). Just needs to be more cap friendly than Mario Williams deal.

Trade or not, Spencer is guaranteed 10 million for 2013. FA DEs are going for half that. What team is going to trade for the 10 million price tag? What leverage would a team have to lower the tag?

Spencer is here in 2013. Period. The tag guarantees it.
 
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