Depressing Playoff Stat: Warning: could upset you

[LatinMind]

That used to be the criteria around here but the Cowboys are so mediocre , it seems to be winning the NFC East is all that matters.

That seems to be the criteria of fans of every team. Im sure players and coaches want to play in the superbowl. I hate this about fans the most. They seiem to think their mindset is the players. I doubt there is a player in sports who doesnt want to play in any championship.

 

[TNCowboy]

Yes, but the one variable is their margin of victory in each SB. 3 pts every time.
Cheating could have and probably was the difference.

That is not a stretch,,,, by any "stretch" lol

No the stretch is you acting like only the Patriots were doing it.

Jimmy Johnson said he did it. You think all our SBs are illegitimate? For that matter, Johnson said everyone did it. I recall Jack Del Rio saying the same thing, that every team was doing it. The NFL knew this and told everyone to stop taping signals the season prior to when the Pats were turned in by Mangini. The only difference is the Pats still did it in 2006, after the NFL told them to stop.

So basically, anyone acting as though the Pats titles, or Belichick's legacy, is in any way diminished is ignorant, or more likely, just blatantly ignoring the facts.

 

[Fmart322]

I think their QB is pretty good too.

Bill Belichick before Tom Brady:
* 41-56 record in 6 years as HC without Brady
* 1 playoff victory in 6 years.

Bill Belichick after Tom Brady became starter:
* 158-50 record in 13 years
* 18 playoff victories in 13 years
* 3 Superbowls

So unless Belichick sold his soul to devil at crossroad and instantly became this great HC, it appear Tom Brady took a marginal HC and made him great.

No doubt Brady plays a big part, just like Amman and Roger played big parts for Landry and Johnson.

 

[Ring Leader]

Fair or not, unless lil' Bill wins another Superbowl, spygate will haunt him forever.

 

[Pokeness]

Belichick/Brady and Jimmy/Jerry are similar in that both pairs needed each other.

 

[Zordon]

the sad part is when you have dark times like this, usually there is a light at the end of the tunnel. just look at san fran. they had many dark years but they at least drafted well and have something to show for it now. us? we are stuck in this darkness for years and years to come. things are only going to get worse.

 

[TNCowboy]

Wanna know how many teams havent been a superbowl champ since 1996? 20. At the end of the yr thats all that matters. Winning the superbowl.

To me, winning a SB isn't the only thing. It's about having a chance.

What I expect to see from the Cowboys is a perpetual contender. And by contender, I mean a SB contender, not a team that sneaks into the playoffs at 8-8 or 9-7. What AZ did in 2008 might be fun for a bit, but in reality, it was a mirage. They hadn't build the foundation of a team that could contend for years.

But we're seeing that it can be done. The Ravens, Pats, Colts, Steelers, Saints and now the 49ers are showing it can be done. Even in the salary cap era, good organizations can build teams that can contend for 5 or 10 years. That's what I want to see in Dallas. And given what we've had for nearly 2 decades, Jones has had more than enough time to prove he can't do it, to say nothing of the nonprofessional atmosphere he's instilled that is present throughtout the organization.

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[texbumthelife]

I think we all know what needs to happen.

It's time to move to the AFC South.

 

[IAmLegend]

9 AFC Championship games for the Patriots (8 I believe with BB as HC). Incredible.

Heck, this one this year is maybe the most impressive.

When Danny Amendola and J. Edelman are your #1WR and #2WR and your team still gets to the playoff on the heals of NFL cast-offs and rejects like LaGarrette Blount, Aquib Talib, and Rob Ninkovich lead the way, you know the coach is great.

I think Brady has a little something to do with that too.

 

[Zordon]

To me, winning a SB isn't the only thing. It's about having a chance.

What I expect to see from the Cowboys is a perpetual contender. And by contender, I mean a SB contender, not a team that sneaks into the playoffs at 8-8 or 9-7. What AZ did in 2008 might be fun for a bit, but in reality, it was a mirage. They hadn't build the foundation of a team that could contend for years.

But we're seeing that it can be done. The Ravens, Pats, Colts, Steelers, Saints and now the 49ers are showing it can be done. Even in the salary cap era, good organizations can build teams that can contend for 5 or 10 years. That's what I want to see in Dallas. And given what we've had for nearly 2 decades, Jones has had more than enough time to prove he can't do it, to say nothing of the nonprofessional atmosphere he's instilled that is present throughtout the organization.

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"the nfl wants everyone to be .500"...quote of the year from the idiot. like you said, other franchises are doing just fine remaining competitive every year despite that theory from Jerry and his backers.

 

[LatinMind]

To me, winning a SB isn't the only thing. It's about having a chance.

What I expect to see from the Cowboys is a perpetual contender. And by contender, I mean a SB contender, not a team that sneaks into the playoffs at 8-8 or 9-7. What AZ did in 2008 might be fun for a bit, but in reality, it was a mirage. They hadn't build the foundation of a team that could contend for years.

But we're seeing that it can be done. The Ravens, Pats, Colts, Steelers, Saints and now the 49ers are showing it can be done. Even in the salary cap era, good organizations can build teams that can contend for 5 or 10 years. That's what I want to see in Dallas. And given what we've had for nearly 2 decades, Jones has had more than enough time to prove he can't do it, to say nothing of the nonprofessional atmosphere he's instilled that is present throughtout the organization.

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Is jones playing? Im sure the people who were there for that eagles game will laugh in your face about that nonprofessional atmosphere. All these games Dallas has had that couldve put them in the playoffs did Jones lose? These statements about Jones running this team into the ground when they are in games that could take them into the playoffs and the players lose. But its still Jerry Jones fault and he's ruining the team.

 

[OhSnap]

No the stretch is you acting like only the Patriots were doing it.

Jimmy Johnson said he did it. You think all our SBs are illegitimate? For that matter, Johnson said everyone did it. I recall Jack Del Rio saying the same thing, that every team was doing it. The NFL knew this and told everyone to stop taping signals the season prior to when the Pats were turned in by Mangini. The only difference is the Pats still did it in 2006, after the NFL told them to stop.

So basically, anyone acting as though the Pats titles, or Belichick's legacy, is in any way diminished is ignorant, or more likely, just blatantly ignoring the facts.

They won allot of games during that time by 3 points or less including all 3 of their SB titles. Take away the filming and they don't even get to those super bowls much less win them. They were the ignorant ones to keep on doing it. Great coach and great run for him and Brady but they we're still cheating.

 

[TwoDeep3]

That seems to be the criteria of fans of every team. Im sure players and coaches want to play in the superbowl. I hate this about fans the most. They seiem to think their mindset is the players. I doubt there is a player in sports who doesnt want to play in any championship.

And yet we are told by some here that setting the bar at the NFC Championship game is unrealistic, and due to the current nature of the league the Dallas fans of old who hold the team responsible for the results are spoiled.

I have to wonder if this attitude is that of the Millennials.

 

[Eddie]

Jerry Jones won us 3 Super Bowls. He'll do anything to win. He's the greatest owner in sports history.

He jumped up and down the table to over-rule BP and draft Demarcus Ware.

We were in the running for three years straight all the way to the last game.

31 other teams won't win the Super Bowl either this year.

 

[NJ22]

When Jimmy left we went from the Pats to the Browns.

 

[coult44]

Is jones playing? Im sure the people who were there for that eagles game will laugh in your face about that nonprofessional atmosphere. All these games Dallas has had that couldve put them in the playoffs did Jones lose? These statements about Jones running this team into the ground when they are in games that could take them into the playoffs and the players lose. But its still Jerry Jones fault and he's ruining the team.

If you can't admit that JJ is the worst GM in professional sports something is wrong with your thought process. ANY GM or other front office guy in the NFL, with his record or resume, would have been fired 5 times in the past 19 years...if you think otherwise than prove it. Tell me any other GM that has a worse record and more fails since 96...you can't!!!

 

[NJ22]

Jerry Jones won us 3 Super Bowls. He'll do anything to win. He's the greatest owner in sports history.

He jumped up and down the table to over-rule BP and draft Demarcus Ware.

We were in the running for three years straight all the way to the last game.

31 other teams won't win the Super Bowl either this year.

Lol

 

[perrykemp]

Jerry Jones won us 3 Super Bowls. He'll do anything to win. He's the greatest owner in sports history.

Wow. So much falsehood packed into three tiny sentences.

 

[Coy]

Exactly right. The great Bill Belichick was a loser until Tom Brady arrived.

Now I don't think I'd call him a marginal HC. I think he's learned on the job and become a very good HC but until he does something without one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game on his roster I would never consider him one of the all time great coaches like most others do.

Bill Parcells career has impressed me much more than what little Bill has done.

No doubt Brady is an all-time QB but so is Belichick as a HC, the one season Brady was out for the year in NE, the Patrios were 11-5 with Cassel as a QB for crying out loud, only a good HC can manage that, look at the record when we lost Romo (not that he is in Brady´s league), or when GB lost Rodgers or when Indy lost Peyton, when a franchise QB goes down the team collapses unless you have a great HC.
Walsh needed Montana, Jimmy needed Troy, what did both coaches do without them? Nothing but they were still great HC IMO.

 

[Seven]

What does getting there get you? Nothing. Just look at the following seasons of teams who didnt win the superbowl. Giants twice, Cardinals, GB, Pitt were all bad the following yr. Thats the thing about playing the games. You just never know. Maybe Jerry has made bad choices. But every owner makes them. All i know is since 2006 Dallas has had some very capable teams that couldve been a team in contention. Thats why i cant blame Jerry for this teams failures. He's given his coaches his players teams. Wether people want to admit it or not. And 2 yrs 2007 and 2009 thats this team shouldve been in the superbowl.

IMPROVEMENT. Really simple.

Improvement gets you to at least the playoffs.

Secondly, and I have said this a thousand times.....I could give a rats *** when it comes to other teams and their respective owners.

You're right. '07 AND '09 were semi-fun football years. Dallas failed again. Haven't been there since '95. What's your point?

And why do you feel compelled to defend jerry? I never mentioned him in my post. Hmmmmm........