Depressing Playoff Stat: Warning: could upset you

[coult44]

I have backedup Jerry arguments in plenty of posts. Maybe read some of them right in this very thread instead of just looking at ur alerts

I have looked at them, and I'm still wondering about the questions I've asked you. 1) Is Jerry the worst GM in the NFL? If not, who's worse and why? 2) Would any other GM with JJ's resume still have his job, and would you support him if he did? Don't give me the run of the mill answer, "JJ's not going anywhere, so the point is not worth answering".....Nothing we say on an internet fan site is going to change anything about anything, it's a discussion site. Does that mean this site go's away? NO, you have your opinions, and I'm asking you to convince anyone here that they are not hogwash by validating them with some facts....

 

[Redball Express]

Here is a list of teams that have been in the NFC Championship game since the last time we were:

West: San Francisco(4), St.Louis(2), Arizona, Seattle(2)
South: Carolina(3), New Orleans(2), Tampa Bay(2), Atlanta(3)
North: Green Bay(4), Minnesota(3), Chicago(2),
East: New York(3), Philadelphia(5),

Dallas, Detroit, and Washington are the only teams not to appear in the NFC Championship since 1996.
That's 18 years with 36 spots available and we haven't been there ONE TIME....

In the AFC:

West: Denver(4), Oakland(2),San Diego
South: Indianapolis(3), Tennessee(2), Jacksonville(2)
East: New England(9), New York(3),
North: Pittsburgh(6), Baltimore(4),

Kansas City, Miami, Buffalo, Houston, Cincinnati, Cleveland, are the teams that have not made it to the conference championship game....

I'm not even going to look at the Super Bowl champs because I've already tortured myself enough, but as you can see this list is VERY UGLY, and should be inexcusable for the Dallas Cowboys. When you think fans that are under the age of 19 have to compare their favorite team with the likes of Detroit, Cleveland, or Cincinnati it is a brutal shame. When the fans of "AMERICA'S TEAM" can't say we have been better than Oakland, Arizona, Jacksonville, or Tampa Bay in almost 20 years, it should be a crime and is beyond embarrassing.

You can blame every player to ever wear the star. You can say the talent hasn't been good enough, or the injuries have killed us. You can blame every coach from Jason Garret to Dave Campo, and every OC and DC in between. However, after looking at these facts; there is NOTHING you could ever say that could defend our owner and GM, Jerry Jones. He has degraded the STAR and this franchise more than anything or anyone ever could!!!

I read last week where someone said that the Cowboys were bigger than Jerry Jones. That might be true, but that is impossible to see right now, and will be until the day he is out of the picture.

Thanx..I think.

I get reminded of this every time I see Aikman, Jimster, Moose and Irvin as commentators.

These guys are going to be phased out and other guys from more recent teams are going to be used.

Then I'll really be missing better times with this ownership.

 

[NJ22]

If you can't admit that JJ is the worst GM in professional sports something is wrong with your thought process. ANY GM or other front office guy in the NFL, with his record or resume, would have been fired 5 times in the past 19 years...if you think otherwise than prove it. Tell me any other GM that has a worse record and more fails since 96...you can't!!!

I will go one further. In the last now 20 years you can only find one 4 year span that MAYBE he would have kept his GM job 2006-2009. Are these people joking, 12 years old or just punchy? I choose to believe they are joking or Jones family members.

I am guessing they are very young. If that is the case I give them a pass because I too used to say these same ridiculous statements about Jerry caring so much blah blah blah. They will see unfortunately.

 

[LatinMind]

Laugh at what? Our one playoff win in nearly 20 years?.

Very clearly explained myself in the post on laughing at ur face. But you went on something

I have looked at them, and I'm still wondering about the questions I've asked you. 1) Is Jerry the worst GM in the NFL? If not, who's worse and why? 2) Would any other GM with JJ's resume still have his job, and would you support him if he did? Don't give me the run of the mill answer, "JJ's not going anywhere, so the point is not worth answering".....Nothing we say on an internet fan site is going to change anything about anything, it's a discussion site. Does that mean this site go's away? NO, you have your opinions, and I'm asking you to convince anyone here that they are not hogwash by validating them with some facts....

Ive answered all those. Ur just looking for an answer that satisfies what u want to read. go look elsewhere

 

[Clove]

The Patriots have a great head coach who finds football players through out his team. Top to bottom. We don't. We have Jerry Jones calling the shots, an oil man. It's like going to the gas station to get a tooth pulled.

That Pats have a QB that has put them in position to be super competitive for over a decade. We need one of those. So BB simply keeps a wall in front of him to protect him.

 

[physeter]

Exactly right. The great Bill Belichick was a loser until Tom Brady arrived.

Now I don't think I'd call him a marginal HC. I think he's learned on the job and become a very good HC but until he does something without one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game on his roster I would never consider him one of the all time great coaches like most others do.

Bill Parcells career has impressed me much more than what little Bill has done.

I guess then Bill Walsh is also dubious since he enjoyed having Joe Montana in San Francisco.

 

[khiladi]

The Patriots have a great head coach who finds football players through out his team. Top to bottom. We don't. We have Jerry Jones calling the shots, an oil man. It's like going to the gas station to get a tooth pulled.

They have the biggest cheater in the history of the game... If Goodell didn't burn the evidence, we would know to what extent this guy cheats and cheated.

Him and Brady....

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Here is a list of teams that have been in the NFC Championship game since the last time we were:

West: San Francisco(4)This year aside, those 3 trips earned them JACK, St.Louis(2) 1 Super Bowl & 1 loss in the Super Bowl. Not too shabby, Arizona ( won Jack ), Seattle(2) ( This year aside, won Jack )
South: Carolina(3) ( Won Jack ), New Orleans(2) ( Won 1 Super Bowl & lost 1 Super Bowl. Not too shabby ), Tampa Bay(2) ( Won 1 Super Bowl & won Jack. Ok ), Atlanta(3) ( 3 trips & won Jack )
North: Green Bay(4)( 2 Super Bowl wins, 1 Super Bowl loss & won Jack. Good. ), Minnesota(3)( 3 trips & won Jack ), Chicago(2)( 2 Trips & won Jack )
East: New York(3)( 3 Trips, 2 Super Bowls & 1 Super Bowl loss. Good ), Philadelphia(5)( 5 trips, 1 Super Bowl appearance & won JACK. )

Dallas, Detroit, and Washington are the only teams not to appear in the NFC Championship since 1996.
That's 18 years with 36 spots available and we haven't been there ONE TIME....

Aside from Green Bay & New York, very few won anything beyond that game, so woopdeedoo. Most ended the season, the same as the Cowboys. Not hoisting the Lombardi & that's all that really matters.

 

[khiladi]

One more thing, the Patriots OL gets very little credit. Brady has all day to sit in the pocket. The day that OL goes bye bye....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Fact remains they still get to the Superbowl.

Fact: yes, and now they lose them.
I can do this all day. Lol

 

[Eddie]

Wow. So much falsehood packed into three tiny sentences.

Sarcasm. Don't you love it?

 

[Risen Star]

I guess then Bill Walsh is also dubious since he enjoyed having Joe Montana in San Francisco.

Well, I don't remember Walsh failing as a head coach before Montana arrived as Belichick did.

I think he was a very good coach but I wouldn't put him ahead of Parcells. When you can go anywhere and coach for anyone at any age and turn a team around, that's impressive.

 

[NJ22]

One more thing, the Patriots OL gets very little credit. Brady has all day to sit in the pocket. The day that OL goes bye bye....

That is what I heard about Aikman. That line has had plenty of turnover since Brady got there. They have great coaching and get good players. Used to drive me nuts in the 90s haters would tell me emmitt was only good because of the line, Irvin was only good because he had Aikman and Troy was only good because he had that running game and line, but of course the line was only good because of the triplets! LOL i was like SOMEONE has to be good on this team!!

 

[boyzjunkie]

Wanna know how many teams havent been a superbowl champ since 1996? 20. At the end of the yr thats all that matters. Winning the superbowl.

Really? Do you think Panther and Eagle fans feel that way? Or Saint or Colt fans? I bet they are all looking forward to 2014 with a lot of enthusiasm. Are you?

 

[MikeT22]

But, but, but, it's cyclical. [/sarcasm]

 

[HappyOnions]

lol at people acting like this is irrelevant information.

Sure, losing an NFC championship game isn't something to write home about, but at least those teams were competitive and good enough to reach it in the first place; same goes for the Super Bowl losers.

Sorry, but I'd feel pretty good even if our team was in the playoffs on a consistent basis. What has this team done since our last championship game appearance? Absolutely nothing.

 

[gimmesix]

I dunno, I view it as the Patriots just got busted doing what a lot of other teams, including the Cowboys, have been doing for years.

Where they got stupid is they were sternly warned and ignored it -- and the NFL came down hard on them.

Yes, but getting caught cheating will always cast a shadow on Belichick's place among the all-time greats with me.

He's definitely proven that he's a good head coach, but we know he cheated to be "great" and we don't know exactly to what extent he has cheated and might be cheating still.

Would feel the same way if I found out that Landry or Lombardi used illegal means to get an edge on their opponents. You're not a great coach if you have to cheat to win.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I think their QB is pretty good too.

Bill Belichick before Tom Brady:
* 41-56 record in 6 years as HC without Brady
* 1 playoff victory in 6 years.

Bill Belichick after Tom Brady became starter:
* 158-50 record in 13 years
* 18 playoff victories in 13 years
* 3 Superbowls

So unless Belichick sold his soul to devil at crossroad and instantly became this great HC, it appear Tom Brady took a marginal HC and made him great.

Tom BrADy IS tha' DEBIL!