Depth Chart, where things stand at OT

[jterrell]

Steele did show considerable improvement as the season progressed.



I think a change from Solari as offensive line coach will be a good thing for him.

And Steele has proven he can play the position before. Was a solid RT at Texas Tech then as a pro prior to injury.

Guyton has literally NEVER been good at LT. EVER. On any level of the sport.
He was a tight end in high school then appears in 9 games over two seasons at TCU that was awful at OU post transfer and drafted on pure potential.

He is very athletic but shows no signs of being able to play the most demanding position on the OL.

 

[Chasing6]

Steele did show considerable improvement as the season progressed.



I think a change from Solari as offensive line coach will be a good thing for him.

The second half of the schedule was significantly softer. Hopefully his back to normal this year.

 

[jterrell]

IMO:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: TJ Bass/Hoffman
C: Beebe/Hoffman
RG: Tyler Booker
RT Terence Steele

Swing OT: Tyler Guyton.
Interior swing: Hoffman
8th man: Asim Richards.
4th interior: Rob Jones

That OL is mid-league at worst.

 

[jterrell]

Not saying anyone needs to be an all pro to see the field, but you can't draft guys and hand them starting positions when they clearly are not ready. Guyton way possibly the worst starting Tackle in the league a season ago. You can't claim to be serious about winning a championship while sending out that big of a liability week after week at LT. It was a major mistake to hand him the job last season, Jerry even admitted so himself not long ago.

The vast majority of Guyton's college snaps were at RT/HBack. They thought they could put him at LT because we badly needed one with Tyron finally moving on, but he was as bad as anyone could have imagined.
It would not be a bust to move a guy drafted 28th to RT and let him start there coming year 3 and save you 16.5M a year(by cutting Steele).

Even as a swing OT in year 2 at just under 3M in cap cost, he would be a good value.

 

[gtb1943]

I doubt Steele is getting any better than he was last year.
Guyton needs to take a big step
Richards we need to see more of

 

[Paperbag]

That is only in case of emergency

there is no way they're moving Smith unless they absolutely have to..

so they're going to give everyone else a shot before that happens but I would be okay with that lineup but there's a reason they're trying to keep Smith who is probably an all pro at left guard but only could be maybe a pro bowler at left tackle at best..

I think people think he's a lot better left tackle than issues that are developing right now maybe he actually is you guys are wanting it in your brains... I think they know he can just be a good left tackle but how much better is he than what we have there but you're weakening in my opinion you're taking an all pro out of a position that's why they haven't done it and probably won't do it unless it's absolutely dire... I don't care how good Hoffman or Booker turn out to be they're not all pros not yet we don't know what they're going to be so you're removing an all pro from left guard and putting him out to a position he might just be kind of good at you have to weigh that of maybe weakening two positions just to help one..

Well when you put it like that I would have to agree with you

 

[Chasing6]

That is only in case of emergency

there is no way they're moving Smith unless they absolutely have to..

so they're going to give everyone else a shot before that happens but I would be okay with that lineup but there's a reason they're trying to keep Smith who is probably an all pro at left guard but only could be maybe a pro bowler at left tackle at best..

I think people think he's a lot better left tackle than issues that are developing right now maybe he actually is you guys are wanting it in your brains... I think they know he can just be a good left tackle but how much better is he than what we have there but you're weakening in my opinion you're taking an all pro out of a position that's why they haven't done it and probably won't do it unless it's absolutely dire... I don't care how good Hoffman or Booker turn out to be they're not all pros not yet we don't know what they're going to be so you're removing an all pro from left guard and putting him out to a position he might just be kind of good at you have to weigh that of maybe weakening two positions just to help one..

Break glass only for emergency.

 

[blueblood70]

Well when you put it like that I would have to agree with you

Well, it's just my opinion but Mike Mccarthy seemed apprehensive about moving him and whenever asked it seems like BS is also dodging those questions because he probably hoping he doesn't have to...

Hey I'm no expert that was just my opinion whatever they do it should be for the best they literally should have the best 5 out there have I got a hope a lot of hope that this new coaching staff especially at offensive coordinator and the offensive line coach do a good job and they have a really good jump in year two for Guyton and Steele is back to form..

 

[Hadenough]

Funny, I remember the consensus being he was a top 10 LT. As a rookie, who is going to best Aaron Donald? Tyler was great his rookie year. He just always projected better at guard in terms of SPARQ and play style. But he's still an above average tackle.

Someone did a hindsight re-draft, which had Tyler Smith at #9.

That said, if we had a better LT it would make sense to have him at LG. But he's way better than Guyton and Guyton would be better in the right side.

They should at least take a look at the possibility in case of injury. To say he was below average at LT is revisionist history.

I always wondered why he isn't playing LT.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

This is where I continue to stand on this line, if the "best 5" theory is the plan:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Tyler Booker
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: Cooper Beebe
RT: Tyler Guyton

Try to trade Terence Steele or cut him to get out of that contract. Asim Richards is the swing tackle. T.J. Bass, Ajani Cornelius, Rob Jones, and the others can vie for backup roles.

 

[blueblood70]

This is where I continue to stand on this line, if the "best 5" theory is the plan:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Tyler Booker
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: Cooper Beebe
RT: Tyler Guyton

Try to trade Terence Steele or cut him to get out of that contract. Asim Richards is the swing tackle. T.J. Bass, Ajani Cornelius, Rob Jones, and the others can vie for backup roles.

I disagree let's see how this works out but there's no way even if we move Tyler out that I'm doing that i'm putting Hoffman back at right guard and Bebe at centered you don't move Cooper B's on his way to becoming a great center you don't move him he was stable there.. He's ascending you make the least amount of moves possible and that's not the one I'm picking right now that is not the plan that would be the alternate emergency brake glass if desperate plan but there's no way they just redo the whole line you basically change the entire line and I doubt they have that in mind.

smith-Booker-BB-Hoffman-Steele

Look I know you want to put Gein out there but still hasn't done anything right now to lose his job and we don't know what the new offensive coordinator and offensive line coach out this is going to look so that may be your dream by what you think you saw last year but I think they're going to try to roll out the same line from last year except adding Booker in and pulling Hoffman into the backup center guard swing guy....

their plan 1

Guyton-Smith-BB-Booker-Steele

I guarantee that's where they're head is right now as it stands going into camp and preseason games that's what you're going to see until it starts failing...

I mean that's nice for you to dream that's literally retooling the entire offensive line and I don't think that's what they're going for not my opinion and I guarantee you don't see that not early anyway....

 

[conner01]

Im
Not trying to make a hot take, but moving Guyton back to the right side (his college position) and letting Asim play LT might be better than Guyton at LT and Steele at R

Clearly this article is wrong.

It doesn’t even list Tyler Smith among the group when we all know that despite being all-pro guard, he should be a tackle.

If Booker plays well, then we need to immediately start listing him as the best starting right tackle if Scotty wasn’t such an idiot.

/s for those who require it

“WE” don’t. We think he’s an all pro guard are an avg tackle. You keep him at guard.

 

[conner01]

Both Tackle Spots are highly suspect and up for grabs in my opinion.

There’s no body to “grab” them. Asim is only other capable tackle

 

[Chasing6]

This is where I continue to stand on this line, if the "best 5" theory is the plan:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Tyler Booker
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: Cooper Beebe
RT: Tyler Guyton

Try to trade Terence Steele or cut him to get out of that contract. Asim Richards is the swing tackle. T.J. Bass, Ajani Cornelius, Rob Jones, and the others can vie for backup roles.

Hoffman is not in the best 5.

 

[Pass2Run]

Sure, then he didn't make it last year even though he was arguably better.
OGs are a lot easier to find than LTs.
Thus the drafting of Booker this year even though they desperately needed an LT.
.
I was right there with this opinion last year, but you know the interior OL will be fine without Tyler Smith.
LT is a complete hole. I'm fine giving Guyton a shot but that's got to be a very short leash, and we have nothing else there.

If you don't have an LT you don't have an OL.

For sure.

 

[speedkilz88]

And Steele has proven he can play the position before. Was a solid RT at Texas Tech then as a pro prior to injury.

Guyton has literally NEVER been good at LT. EVER. On any level of the sport.
He was a tight end in high school then appears in 9 games over two seasons at TCU that was awful at OU post transfer and drafted on pure potential.

He is very athletic but shows no signs of being able to play the most demanding position on the OL.

Guyton was a primarily a DL in high school just like Cooper Beebe and was switched to the offensive line by TCU. He volunteered to play some TE to help the team. At Oklahoma he played LT originally but switched to RT because his QB was left handed. He only started nine games. They knew when drafting him that it could take a few years for him to fully develop. Watching his training camp footage it was pretty easy to see why they liked him so much. He's got great feet, LT feet.

 

[Pass2Run]

I always wondered why he isn't playing LT.

Same. He can surely play both. The way Guyton was playing last year, I wondered myself.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Guyton won't bust. He is too talented. And one big thing both him and Steele have going for them this year is coaching. The upgrade of OL coaching can't be understated.

How does anyone know the coaching is improved? Reputation does not equal results. If Guyton is “too talented” that would have been apparent last season.