Deuce Vaughn Darren Sproles

[Irvin88_4life]

I hate the analogy of you can get injured getting out of bed, the chances significantly go up playing in a meaningless game. Sorry if it sounds like I'm coming at you, I'm not, just heard that one so many times throughout the years.

But it's true. Some guys go their entire career and never miss a snap. Others get hurt and never was touched.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

They know Duece is on the roster. They're trying to decide between Dowdle and Davis.

That makes sense, and I agree

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Why do people act like they don’t know what preseason is lol. The 0-16 Lions went 4-0 in the preseason that year.

Preseason has zero indication on regular season success.

The year the Patriots went 16-0 they didn't look good at all in preseason.

Nothing that happens in preseason effects the regular season, unless an injury happens.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He averaged 2.8 yards a carry last night.

Given the blocking in front of him I'm surprised it was that much. When you get hit in the backfield and before you get to the line of scrimmage it's tough to get any positive yards at all.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And just the thing he's been coming in in the third quarter with our worst lines imagine if he was even starting the preseason games in the first quarter little bit better line but I can also imagine him behind our actual starting offensive line and if he's doing this stuff with scrubs he's gonna be productive for us in the regular season...

Great point. All I hear is how much the scrub OL sucks and the next breath some are complaining about Deuce not getting X yards per carry.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Everyone Duece was in the defense was surrounding him. The play-action worked to perfection on his first drive, capped by the TD run, because of the attention he drew. Once the defense played back some, hand it to him and Duece took it to the house

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

And just the thing he's been coming in in the third quarter with our worst lines imagine if he was even starting the preseason games in the first quarter little bit better line but I can also imagine him behind our actual starting offensive line and if he's doing this stuff with scrubs he's gonna be productive for us in the regular season...

Exactly, not to mention the other weapons. He could be lethal because defences may be forced to use a DB on him that they'd rather use on a WR.

 

[KJJ]

Given the blocking in front of him I'm surprised it was that much. When you get hit in the backfield and before you get to the line of scrimmage it's tough to get any positive yards at all.

It’s something he’s going to run into a lot as well all our backs during the regular season. There’s going to be games where it’s like running into a brick wall and a back has to be able to make something happen or at least find a way to squeeze out a yard or two when there isn’t anything there. We saw Zeke do that plenty of times over his career. You have to be able to push a pile, it can be the difference between moving the chains and punting.

 

[JayFord]

I honestly can say for the first time I feel like this isn't a fan forum

Do yall want players to succeed or not?

 

[BlindFaith]

Great point. All I hear is how much the scrub OL sucks and the next breath some are complaining about Deuce not getting X yards per carry.

Against Seattle, Dowdle and Davis ran behind basically that same scrub OL. Only difference is that they were running against Seattle's ones and were very effective.
Duece, not so much. Unless you want to drool over his TD run. In which he had a hole you could drive a truck through. But that cant be, because the OL couldnt block for him.
Its hard to keep up with the logic ya'll are inventing to keep your hopes up.
Duece isnt playing meaningful snaps because hes just so good and already has a role setup for him
Duece has to run behind our scrub OL which results in him getting stuffed. Except when he doesnt. And just happens to be basically the same scrub OL Dowdle and Davis have been running behind.
The season cant get here soon enough so we can focus on the players who will actually be contributing to our run for the superbowl.

 

[BlindFaith]

I honestly can say for the first time I feel like this isn't a fan forum

Do yall want players to succeed or not?

Yes, yes I do. I really hope Dowdle and Davis succeed.
Oh wait, do I have to hope they all succeed? But some guys won't make the team.
Wheres all the Luepke love?
What about Redwine?
Why dont the Mazi haters get called out like I do? Or the Schoonmaker haters. Or Turpin haters. Or Tolbert haters, even though they've backed down now after being wrong.
Hey, wheres the love for Josh Ball? I said before camp that he'd make the roster. I still think that.
I was mentioning Brooks as someone to keep an eye on. Looks like I was right about that one too.
So I actually have been suportive for many players.
You felt the need to respond because Im not supporting the guy you like.
And if this is a fanboi site and you have to love Jerry and all things cowboys, then yeah, I need to move along. Which I will be doing once the season starts.

 

[Sinister]

Yes, yes I do. I really hope Dowdle and Davis succeed.
Oh wait, do I have to hope they all succeed? But some guys won't make the team.
Wheres all the Luepke love?
What about Redwine?
Why dont the Mazi haters get called out like I do? Or the Schoonmaker haters. Or Turpin haters. Or Tolbert haters, even though they've backed down now after being wrong.
Hey, wheres the love for Josh Ball? I said before camp that he'd make the roster. I still think that.
I was mentioning Brooks as someone to keep an eye on. Looks like I was right about that one too.
So I actually have been suportive for many players.
You felt the need to respond because Im not supporting the guy you like.
And if this is a fanboi site and you have to love Jerry and all things cowboys, then yeah, I need to move along. Which I will be doing once the season starts.

You know some of my favorite Cowboy teams were during the Campo years, I've never spoken about it, but I was around for the Super Bowls and even went to a game in Dallas to watch Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt play, but I never connected with the team, even though I was a big fan of the Cowboys. The 90's Cowboys came off as a little arrogant, a little cocky and I don't know, I just didn't love the team as much, maybe it was cause everyone loved the team. No one loved the Campo teams they were terrible, but I loved watching the Defense play, I loved the undersized Dline give everything it had every game. I remember watching Mike Myers and Brandon Noble, Dat Nguyen, Dexter Coakley. Ha, those teams were so bad, so untalented, but I loved them because they had guts, they were humble (prolly because they lost all the time, Ha).

I was even here during those Campo years, but it was called The Silver Star board or something like that, I remember talking to ABQ one year about the Raiders v Tampa Super bowl. He picked Tampa and I picked the Raiders. I was completely wrong.

Anyway, I wanted say that a lot of people throw the term talented around, arm talent, leg talent whatever. I don't care about any of that, I want the players I root for to have guts and give everything they have, I want the Cowboys to win, but more than anything I want them to give everything they got.

People here are so bitter and jaded, it's so sad I think. Oh NO! the Cowboys lost to 49ers again they are the worst, Dak is the worst. If only we had drafted Joe Burrow we could have won the game... I mean come on some of us had to root for Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick, some of you are so spoiled.

Deuce has been questioned all his life, he had to overcome a lot of doubts from a lot of people to even have a chance to play in the NFL, but he's got guts.

At the end of the day, I don't want to be a hater of anyone, there are players I like and players I don't like, but if they are a Dallas Cowboy I try to give the benefit of doubt.

Sorry, I thought you're silly rant was kinda funny and kinda sad, but it reminded me of those Campo years for some reason.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I honestly can say for the first time I feel like this isn't a fan forum

Do yall want players to succeed or not?

I very much do. And I'm excited to see what Vaughn does in the regular season.

 

[Rayman70]

I get it. I get that many wanna compare the 2 guys for obvious reasons, but they are 2 different kinds of players really. Deuce isnt the returner Sproles was. They are built different. Deuce has huge legs ie the thighs. Darren was just built thick and stubby, quick. If that makes any sense.Which is why he lasted in the NFL a long time. Deuce is more elusive and bendy. Like plastic man.Thats why Deuce is so unique and difficult to defend. Thats why I compare him to Barry Sanders and Emmitt. He's somewhere in between. The kid can stop and start in the hole like a special back. Thats rare. He can get from 0- gone, in a blink.

 

[Rayman70]

Davis might get cut.

 

[blueblood70]

Hey man. No reason to yell. Lol. I was not hating on him or any one of my fellow fans. At the end of the day I want him to succeed. My point was and still is that none of us can be sure until we see it in real games during the season. College success doesn't always mean NFL success and there are many examples of it and vice versa. So I need to see more of him, and yes part of that is seeing him behind our starting OL.

Anyway man. We both want the same thing. I just need to see it first.

And I'm saying open your eyes I don't think you understand when this kid gets behind the starting offensive line and they're game planning they're using different schemes for the blocking that he is gonna look a lot more like his college days and he's already showed flashes of it all training camp in preseason and some of you just don't see it you need to see it because he's making this team likely gonna be part of a lot of games... Not only did he have 5000 scrimmage yards in college which is ridiculous because he was a full time running back he was the top receiving running back of all the running backs that got drafted he has a resume he's done nothing in training camp or preseason to say that that was a fluke he may not be the same player in the NFL because of his size and but he's gonna be a great addition to a running back by committee he's perfect for this type of NFL offense that they are doing with the run games now...

 

[blueblood70]

Great point. All I hear is how much the scrub OL sucks and the next breath some are complaining about Deuce not getting X yards per carry.

100%

I know this is a lot of people's pet cats but also I think there is some fans in here with Napoleon syndrome ,that's jealous of this guy's success, and they don't want to see him do well because of his size they wanna be right they want the draft to be correct..​

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they're going to be wrong all this dude did in college is put up 5000 scrimmage yards he's the top receiving back of all the backs drafted in the NFL,​

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he has a resume that actually could be put right next to bijon Robinson, the only difference is Robinson can be a three down back he's got the body too play that kind of snaps in the NFL and we're going to see a scaled down version of deuce Vaughn with a lot less carries but he is going to be effective and he's going to produce he's going to be a very good part of a running back by committee.... I know this fan base is not used to this where there's not going to just be one guy that one superstar running back they're going to use two to three backs every game.​

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Vaughn can also play special teams, if Turpin turns around and keeps fumbling/bobbling the football, he's going to lose his job in my opinion this is the steal of the draft just because he can do all these things and he's just what we needed with this new change at the running back philosophy...​

Yes Pollard will be the main guy but I think they need to use Pollard no more than 15 carries a game and really limit his carries to get him fresh for a playoff run he was cast out last year..

I don't think people understand that and I think using the running back by committee throughout the regular season like say 3 to 4 backs and then decide to take your two to three best backs into the playoffs, they'll be much fresher.

It's almost like Tampa Bay did with Rojo got most of the carries and snaps in the regular season did pretty good but then as soon as the playoff run started they reinserted fournette and he had a nice run in the playoffs you want your backs to be as fresh and healthy for the biggest games and that's hard to do in a 17 game season unless you use a running back by committee... They need to be smarter with Pollard not give him more carries give him less than you may have given him last year and less the game calls on it and that you need him more he needs to stay fresh...

 

[blueblood70]

Against Seattle, Dowdle and Davis ran behind basically that same scrub OL. Only difference is that they were running against Seattle's ones and were very effective.
Duece, not so much. Unless you want to drool over his TD run. In which he had a hole you could drive a truck through. But that cant be, because the OL couldnt block for him.
Its hard to keep up with the logic ya'll are inventing to keep your hopes up.
Duece isnt playing meaningful snaps because hes just so good and already has a role setup for him
Duece has to run behind our scrub OL which results in him getting stuffed. Except when he doesnt. And just happens to be basically the same scrub OL Dowdle and Davis have been running behind.
The season cant get here soon enough so we can focus on the players who will actually be contributing to our run for the superbowl.

No they got the better of the scrubs in the first quarter and they have been deuce been coming in in a second half playing behind even worse lines that's a fact the man is not been given the ball in the first quarter if he had his numbers probably wouldn't even be better but still in my opinion he's going to contribute more than those other two those other two out of those guys,

one of them 's gonna make it, they're gonna be the more between the tackle guys the short yardage guy but it's going to be Tony Pollard and the running back by committee and deuce Vaughn it's going to be a big part of this team and you didn't like him since the draft and he's done nothing to prove anybody wrong those place he's making those moves those are NFL caliber moves and he's doing it with no number one offensive line no game planning no scheming when they start using this guy as a weapon he's gonna shine pretty well running back by committee get comfortable with it deuce fawns made this team and he's gonna get a lot of snaps...

bookmark this convo and don't talk game to game over 17 games DV will make his mark. He won't be a starting running back or a superstar, but this man is going to be a productive part of our offense something that's been missing for a while..

 

[BlindFaith]

You know some of my favorite Cowboy teams were during the Campo years, I've never spoken about it, but I was around for the Super Bowls and even went to a game in Dallas to watch Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt play, but I never connected with the team, even though I was a big fan of the Cowboys. The 90's Cowboys came off as a little arrogant, a little cocky and I don't know, I just didn't love the team as much, maybe it was cause everyone loved the team. No one loved the Campo teams they were terrible, but I loved watching the Defense play, I loved the undersized Dline give everything it had every game. I remember watching Mike Myers and Brandon Noble, Dat Nguyen, Dexter Coakley. Ha, those teams were so bad, so untalented, but I loved them because they had guts, they were humble (prolly because they lost all the time, Ha).

I was even here during those Campo years, but it was called The Silver Star board or something like that, I remember talking to ABQ one year about the Raiders v Tampa Super bowl. He picked Tampa and I picked the Raiders. I was completely wrong.

Anyway, I wanted say that a lot of people throw the term talented around, arm talent, leg talent whatever. I don't care about any of that, I want the players I root for to have guts and give everything they have, I want the Cowboys to win, but more than anything I want them to give everything they got.

People here are so bitter and jaded, it's so sad I think. Oh NO! the Cowboys lost to 49ers again they are the worst, Dak is the worst. If only we had drafted Joe Burrow we could have won the game... I mean come on some of us had to root for Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick, some of you are so spoiled.

Deuce has been questioned all his life, he had to overcome a lot of doubts from a lot of people to even have a chance to play in the NFL, but he's got guts.

At the end of the day, I don't want to be a hater of anyone, there are players I like and players I don't like, but if they are a Dallas Cowboy I try to give the benefit of doubt.

Sorry, I thought you're silly rant was kinda funny and kinda sad, but it reminded me of those Campo years for some reason.

Why was it silly and sad?
As far as Im concerned, duece isn't on this team yet. He's trying to be. And as Ive said before, if hes on the final roster, I'll support him as I do all the cowboys.
Whats sad is that because you disagree with me, what I post is silly.

 

[Flamma]

I loved this pick. It was actually my favorite pick of the draft. Once I saw his tape, I was excited. It might not turn out as I would hope for, but I truly believe he was overlooked due to his height. Right now I am 100% in his corner.