Devin Hester...

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summerisfunner;1102566 said:
they had him working at WR during the Senior Bowl, the Bears will be waiting on his coverage abilities for awhile

Yep, could have used another year at Miami.

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A more realistic pick would of been Brad Smith, o maybe Maurice Jones Drew.(I know Smith was a 4th, Jones Drew may have been a 2nd or 3rd, not sure)

Smith is sort of a jack of all trades w/ the Jets right now. And could return kicks.

If we had a screen game Jones Drew could of fit nicely there and as a returner
 

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You'll all forget about Hester when Skyler busts one.

Id be surprised if he was active this week.

He jsut seems scared, he seems like hes happy jsut to catch it and falls down after that.

Id keep Green on the PS. Rotate Newman and Crayton.

For some reason I think Watkins could return punts.......
 

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didn't the Bengals put Smith on their PS?

No. Hes w/ the Jets and is getting more and more involved in the offense as the season goes. Reverses, WR Screens, Bubble routes ect.
And he could trow the ball too, so thats a half hour in opposing teams game plan devoted to him and what he could do

Guys actually getting praise form the stoic Mangini.....
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;1102768 said:
No. Hes w/ the Jets and is getting more and more involved in the offense as the season goes. Reverses, WR Screens, Bubble routes ect.
And he could trow the ball too, so thats a half hour in opposing teams game plan devoted to him and what he could do

Guys actually getting praise form the stoic Mangini.....

true, but he was a Bengal draft pick, we probably would have released him too
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;1102788 said:
I dont know what your talking about

I'm pretty sure Brad was originally drafted by the Bengals, if he got cut because he couldn't fit in w/ all those WRs, it's a pretty sure bet that we would have cut him too, BIll doesn't like players w/o positions
 

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If Greens on the team, Smith would of made it. Smith at least has a few catches and has made osme nice plays. Id take Smith right now over, Austin, Green, or Hurd.


Skyler Green is a guy who was drafted only for returning kicks and he is pathetic at it

And Brad Smith is a rookie, drafted by the Jets

I dont know who your talking about? Kelly Washington?
 
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Bleu Star;1102616 said:
You'll all forget about Hester when Skyler busts one.

Please tell me you are joking about that right? Green hasn't shown any quickness or return ability to me....

Hester was a good pick in the 2nd round say what you want....
 

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Hester Played WR, CB, and S in College but could never find a home at any position... the guy is dangerous with the ball in his hands because of his speed and quickness but his hands are not good enough to be a WR and he is not physical enough to be a CB or S. He has a lot of potential but it may take a few years for him to develop.
 

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ghst187;1102261 said:
I'm glad we didn't draft him, he's from the U. Can never have too few of those players on your roster.

Irvin wouldnt like that comment at all.

mickgreen58;1102393 said:
Well, I believe the Bears took him for his Return abilities, but hope he can develop into a solid corner, which he played in College.

Most felt as a Cornerback, he definately needed to stay in school another year.

At this point, I dont think the Bears are regretting that decision, but as far as the Cowboys, I dont think he would be a good pick in the 2nd round.

- Mike G.


Bears probably felt fairly comfortable, as far as secondary once the draft rolled around, but needed potential players for the future. Hester certainly fits the mold. In that aspect the Cowboys and Bears are/were in the same boat. Bears pulled the trigger and took a chance.

On a side note, I realize that Summer hasnt learned how to use the multi-quote feature yet. ;)
 

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SkinsandTerps;1102835 said:
On a side note, I realize that Summer hasnt learned how to use the multi-quote feature yet. ;)

I'm old school :D

and about Hester, the Bears had the luxury of taking a returner cuz they're pretty stacked, while we were going to go more 2-TE, thus needed another starter there
 

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summerisfunner;1102837 said:
I'm old school :D

and about Hester, the Bears had the luxury of taking a returner cuz they're pretty stacked, while we were going to go more 2-TE, thus needed another starter there


Plenty of TEs are available year after year. That is a lame excuse. You can get an experienced TE with proven skills (at this level) for the same money.

And... "Old School" is a weaker one, you are post padding, plain and simple.

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SkinsandTerps;1102845 said:
Plenty of TEs are available year after year. That is a lame excuse. You can get an experienced TE with proven skills (at this level) for the same money.

And... "Old School" is a weaker one, you are post padding, plain and simple.

:p:

it's reality bro, don't know what you're talking about, we were going more 2-TE, and needed another good one, not some stop-gap

btw, shouldn't you be complaining that you didn't take Merriman or Ware instead of Carlos "toast" Rogers? :laugh2:
 

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SkinsandTerps;1102835 said:
Bears probably felt fairly comfortable, as far as secondary once the draft rolled around, but needed potential players for the future. Hester certainly fits the mold. In that aspect the Cowboys and Bears are/were in the same boat. Bears pulled the trigger and took a chance.

I'm pretty sure most know that the Bears were not looking at Hester for his ability to play WR, CB, or S. The guy couldn't even beat out a true freshmen at CB last year and his hands are just terrible so WR is out of the question for him.

[FONT=&quot]Sure Hester has a chance to develop into something other then a return specialist down the road because of his athletic ability but that’s true for a lot of players with his speed and explosiveness..[/FONT]

The Bears took a chance and pulled the trigger on a dymimac return specialist... most feel the 2nd round was too high for him espically when several other dymimac return specialist with just as much production during there College careers were avabiable in the later rounds. [FONT=&quot] One punt return for a TD dose not change that[/FONT].

SkinsandTerps;1102835 said:
Plenty of TEs are available year after year. That is a lame excuse. You can get an experienced TE with proven skills (at this level) for the same money.

Not sure if I follow you here bro...Dallas did what it was going to do with TE's in FA and considering the guy we acquired thru FA ( Hannam ) is on IR selecting Fasano seems like a very wise choice right about now.... On the other hand you rarely find a team willing to draft a player strictly for returning kicks on the first day of the draft.

I’m not even remotely upset that we passed on Hester that early... He would have needed to tabed the next Human Joy Stick to merrit where he was slected IMO.


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Knauftd;1102384 said:
The Fasano pick has actually grown on me. He's getting a ton of experience in our two-te sets and has shown good hands when the ball is thrown his way. If the Cowboys continue running the two-te scheme the next few years Fasano could end up being a great pick.

I agree with you.
 

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In 1993 Jimmy Johnson drafted a one dimensional, return man in Kevin Williams in the 2nd round, which was also Dallas' top pick. I didn't like the pick at the time and would not like Hester in the 2nd round this year either. I would like to see the Cowboys block better on punt returns. There seems to be someone on top of the return man each time. Hester had nothing but green on his return against the Cards. He is a good return man and when he gets good blocking like that, it will result in big returns.
 

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Apluz;1102858 said:
I'm pretty sure most know that the Bears were not looking at Hester for his ability to play WR, CB, or S. The guy couldn't even beat out a true freshmen at CB last year and his hands are just terrible so WR is out of the question for him.

[FONT=&quot]Sure Hester has a chance to develop into something other then a return specialist down the road because of his athletic ability but that’s true for a lot of players with his speed and explosiveness..[/FONT]

The Bears took a chance and pulled the trigger on a dymimac return specialist... most feel the 2nd round was too high for him espically when several other dymimac return specialist with just as much production during there College careers were avabiable in the later rounds. [FONT=&quot]One punt return for a TD dose not change that[/FONT].



Not sure if I follow you here bro...Dallas did what it was going to do with TE's in FA and considering the guy we acquired thru FA ( Hannam ) is on IR selecting Fasano seems like a very wise choice right about now.... On the other hand you rarely find a team willing to draft a player strictly for returning kicks on the first day of the draft.

I’m not even remotely upset that we passed on Hester that early... He would have needed to tabed the next Human Joy Stick to merrit where he was slected IMO.

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