Devin Lloyd in the 1st?

[Teague31]

I’d take Quay Walker over Lloyd.

 

[baltcowboy]

Quay Walker, Georgia LB is the name to keep an eye on. He may be the first off ball linebacker drafted over Lloyd and Dean. He is big and fast.

 

[cnuball21]

Lloyd is overrated. He's not a freak athlete nor does he have freak playreading skills, so what are yall seeing?

A dude with good eyes / instincts that make plays.

The 40 is so incredibly overrated for LBs. You don’t want someone slow but the instincts are what make the game speed go.

Lloyd has NFL athleticism and his instincts allowed him to pile up tackles / TFLs / sacks etc at an absurd rate.

When you draft the LBr that runs fast that doesn’t have instincts you get Bruce Carter and Jaylon Smith.

 

[DanA]

I think Lloyd is the one guy in the 1st round that we might take and I don't want.

 

[kevinhickey]

If Lloyd is there he is my pick no matter who is on the board

Lloyd is a really good LB with play making skills. He has the leadership skills to go along with his game and is rated really high on most draft boards. I could envision Parsons and Lloyd lined up in the front 7.

 

[Jbone100]

I would be good with Lloyd at 24 but no way we go defense with the first 3 picks. Even if we went offense, I wouldn't like Leal in the 2nd and I would hate McKinley in the 3rd. The athletic testing for those two was pretty rough.

 

[stilltheguru]

A dude with good eyes / instincts that make plays.

The 40 is so incredibly overrated for LBs. You don’t want someone slow but the instincts are what make the game speed go.

Lloyd has NFL athleticism and his instincts allowed him to pile up tackles / TFLs / sacks etc at an absurd rate.

When you draft the LBr that runs fast that doesn’t have instincts you get Bruce Carter and Jaylon Smith.

I don't see elite insticts

 

[Gaede]

A dude with good eyes / instincts that make plays.

The 40 is so incredibly overrated for LBs. You don’t want someone slow but the instincts are what make the game speed go.

Lloyd has NFL athleticism and his instincts allowed him to pile up tackles / TFLs / sacks etc at an absurd rate.

When you draft the LBr that runs fast that doesn’t have instincts you get Bruce Carter and Jaylon Smith.

I don't know what everyone's watching. I watched a cut up of one game (forget which one) where Lloyd is blown up, misses easy tackles, and is not near where he should be. I saw that game and thought he looked just Jaylon, actually. I'll try to dig it up. I could be way wrong. He did make plays in the game, but I saw a lot of bad for someone who is touted as instinctual

 

[Flamma]

If Lloyd was there and we didn't take him, I think I'd be sick.

 

[Proof]

Here's a good read, for anyone looking for an objective view on Kelvin Joseph.

The compelling story of new LSU signee, Scotlandville safety Kelvin Joseph | LSU | theadvocate.com

objective view? it's a puff piece from a local paper from 4 years ago about a star athlete that went to the local powerhouse lol.

 

[CowboyoWales]

If Lloyd was there and we didn't take him, I think I'd be sick.

Do we need 'another' Micah (I can hear the shouts of YES) or are we better served stopping the run, thus increasing 3rd down yardage.
Don't see our pass rushing as a major issue and if we're hoping that LB's are going to transform our run defense isn't it more likely they reduce the damage (yardage) rather than stop it at source.

 

[Flamma]

Do we need 'another' Micah (I can hear the shouts of YES) or are we better served stopping the run, thus increasing 3rd down yardage.
Don't see our pass rushing as a major issue and if we're hoping that LB's are going to transform our run defense isn't it more likely they reduce the damage (yardage) rather than stop it at source.

It depends on who is available. If Lloyd is there at 24 then he's probably going to be BPA over any DT or OL.

Do we need another Micah? That's not something you can expect every time you draft an LB. He probably would not be another Micah.

 

[CowboyoWales]

It depends on who is available. If Lloyd is there at 24 then he's probably going to be BPA over any DT or OL.

Do we need another Micah? That's not something you can expect every time you draft an LB. He probably would not be another Micah.

So what does Lloyd bring as a player?
The issue of picking solely on BPA (especially on defense and in a unit set to get the best out of Micah) is that the player's not necessarily scheme specific and we aren't spending 1st round extentions in 26/27 on two LBS.
If he is the BPA (which he probably would be...and possibly for the previous 5 picks) I'm sure someone would trade up.

 

[Carson]

If Lloyd was there and we didn't take him, I think I'd be sick.

Pretty much all of my mocks / what I've seen has either Green / Johnson or Lloyd on the board.

I would be happy with any of the 3. But I am sure the media would rip us a new one if we went OG over Lloyd even though OG is a bigger need.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Pretty much all of my mocks / what I've seen has either Green / Johnson or Lloyd on the board.

I would be happy with any of the 3. But I am sure the media would rip us a new one if we went OG over Lloyd even though OG is a bigger need.

Which draft expert (or simulators for that matter) have Lloyd dropping (and what we're the reasons given?)
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[Carson]

Which draft expert (or simulators for that matter) have Lloyd dropping (and what we're the reasons given?)
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All of the following are some that him falling after we pick. I am not sure we would select him, but there is some heat to this.

McShay/Kiper (31)
Lance Zierlein (26)
Ryan Wilson (25)
Chris Trapasso (26)
Josh Edwards (26)
Diante Lee (26)
The Athletic (28)
Sporting News : Vinnie Iyer (32)

 

[CowboyoWales]

All of the following are some that him falling after we pick. I am not sure we would select him, but there is some heat to this.

McShay/Kiper (31)
Lance Zierlein (26)
Ryan Wilson (25)
Chris Trapasso (26)
Josh Edwards (26)
Diante Lee (26)
The Athletic (28)
Sporting News : Vinnie Iyer (32)

So it appears that Lloyd may not be BPA at 24.
Just don't see us taking another LB with a 1st Rd pick. We need to scheme for Micah and defend the run, now if Lloyd can regularly hit runs for a loss and can pass-rush on downs that Micah's edging I'd say defo. I even like the either/or scenario of Lloyd/Micah, but if he's dropping to 24 he'll be a good allround offballee rather that a difference maker...as such I'd concentrate on a difference maker in the trenches.

 

[cowboyec]

only LB i'd want at 24 is nkobe dean,georgia.

 

[Bowdown27]

only LB i'd want at 24 is nkobe dean,georgia.

Agreed

 

[Flamma]

So what does Lloyd bring as a player?
The issue of picking solely on BPA (especially on defense and in a unit set to get the best out of Micah) is that the player's not necessarily scheme specific and we aren't spending 1st round extentions in 26/27 on two LBS.
If he is the BPA (which he probably would be...and possibly for the previous 5 picks) I'm sure someone would trade up.

I don't necessarily agree with solely BPA. But if Lloyd panned out, that could free up Micah to rush more, as one example. But don't go reaching if Lloyd is clearly the BP on the board.

Think about it. If everyone knew there was another Micah in this draft, Jacksonville would draft him. This is one of the reasons I do not think Lloyd is getting anywhere near us. Some team is going to try and catch lightning in a bottle and hope he's a Micah clone.