Dez being Dez

[Zordon]

heard that same garbage when Landry was fired..

we lost a lot of fans b/c of that too.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Maybe because teams win championships not individual players. There's no dispute Dez makes the team better.

the failed Jerry Jones logic, always in love with the flashy shiny object, moving up for Claiborne, T.O, Manziel talk, etc.... games are won in the trenches, that's where you put your investment in picks and money...Murray and Dez didn't make this offense better, this offensive line made them better because without an offensive line, Murray doesn't become the NFL leading rusher last year and Dez doesn't have his catches and TD's because Romo is getting killed...somebody finally beat it into Jerry's head to invest in the offensive line early in drafts..

 

[Fletch]

Selfish!

 

[plasticman]

It seems pretty hypocritical to me....DeMarco Murray contributed far more to the success of this team. not only has he been their leading rusher over the past four seasons, he was also the team's 3rd leading receiver.

I believe that if Dez had been more reasonable, less selfish, the Cowboys could have kept DeMarco. That's how great seems win consistently, they have great players that realize they can make more money post career if they make the necessary sacrifices that lead to more winning.

If Tim Duncan tried to squeeze every penny out of the Spurs then they wouldn't have won a single championship because they never could have let their Big Three for ao Amy seasons.

The Cowboys Big Three, Romo, Bryant, Murray has been dissolved.

 

[lostar2009]

nothing else needs to be said but, "BEAST".

Weighted vest on his grind

 

[The Quest for Six]

There are only 5 wrs who make up the game's best. Because 5 franchises don't win it any given year doesn't mean they are worthwhile.

Most of the game's best pass rushers didn't even make the playoffs last year. I guess guys like JJ Watt, Robert Quin, Suh, Williams and Houston aren't worth their money?

Such a dumb shortsighted argument.

Annoys me everytime I see it.

At least it's easy to break down.

The amount of money going towards that position, you can get three players for that and that helps your team.......allocating that much money towards the wide receiver position is absurd, and comparing the impact of a receiver to a JJ watt in a game is laughable, Watt has FAR more impact and value, he's attacking the line every play, Dez might have 6 plays thrown his way in a game and good defenses can take Dez out of games...Jerry finally figured it out with regards to allocating money to the running back position in not offering Murray what he wanted, just needs to figure that out with receivers, since T.O Austin and Williams didn't work out.....Patriots have no problem getting to the Superbowl and winning them, name their receivers, Welker wanted a big money, PAts moved on from him... Pats take other teams castoff receivers and continue to win.....the good teams do that..it's about value of the position

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Life is not always fair. The tag is part of the system.

It's not fair that Murray had to beg for 8M per while Dez turns down 12M per just because they play different positions.

Not only do they play different positions but Dez plays his position much better than Murray plays his.

The best player at Murray's position is making more than Dez is.

 

[xwalker]

Not only do they play different positions but Dez plays his position much better than Murray plays his.

The best player at Murray's position is making more than Dez is.

Was Murray not a top 5 RB?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

The amount of money going towards that position, you can get three players for that and that helps your team.......allocating that much money towards the wide receiver position is absurd, and comparing the impact of a receiver to a JJ watt in a game is laughable, Watt has FAR more impact and value, he's attacking the line every play, Dez might have 6 plays thrown his way in a game and good defenses can take Dez out of games...Jerry finally figured it out with regards to allocating money to the running back position in not offering Murray what he wanted, just needs to figure that out with receivers, since T.O Austin and Williams didn't work out.....Patriots have no problem getting to the Superbowl and winning them, name their receivers, Welker wanted a big money, PAts moved on from him... Pats take other teams castoff receivers and continue to win.....the good teams do that..it's about value of the position

Name the Patriots receivers? Well should we start with that dude named Gronk? Maybe the biggest pass catching mismatch in the game?

But you can't say wrs don't lead their teams to championships and then I list the best pass rushers in the game who sat at home this offseason and ignore that fact which takes that loosely identified thing you called logic and blows it up.

Also if you think Dez only impacts 6 plays a game... You don't know football.

Also we largely took JJ Watt and Robert quin out of those respective games last year. No matter who you are... They pay the other guys too.

 

[XxTDxX]

Was Murray not a top 5 RB?

You serious? Yes Murray was a top 5 RB last year but he is not a top 5 talent at the position. He is no where near on the same level as Dez when it comes to talent and special ability. Murray is much more easily replaceable than Dez.. Not only because of his position but also because he doesn't possess any rare traits.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Was Murray not a top 5 RB?

Talent wise? No.

Production wise? Yes.

And you get paid in this league based on your talent which projects your future production. Not vice versa.

 

[BAZ]

He is getting paid 13M.

Yeah but still!

 

[xwalker]

Talent wise? No.

Production wise? Yes.

And you get paid in this league based on your talent which projects your future production. Not vice versa.

Players get paid on a combo of talent and production.

 

[5Stars]

Players get paid on a combo of talent and production.

And health...

 

[Nightman]

He may very well get less money. Football I'd a violent game. Let's say he tears an Achilles. He still getting his money? Or no?

Is it good for Dallas if he gets his 40m and gets hurt?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Is it good for Dallas if he gets his 40m and gets hurt?

No it is not.

But hey I work in finance. I understand the concept of getting what you can when you've earned it.

That's why I can't in good conscious begrudge Dez for trying to do that for him and his family.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Players get paid on a combo of talent and production.

You mean players get paid based on talent and expected future production based on that talent. Right?

Or else Murray gets more than McCoy for instance.

 

[plymkr]

Was that Claiborne defending him? MoClay in mid-season form

Nope not MoClay, cuz if MOClay was in midseason form, he'd be on the ground hurt. Looked more like Mike Jenkins to me but again he wasn't holding his shoulder so it's hard to tell

 

[AzorAhai]

franchise Dez for the next two years and move on.....high priced receivers aren't the end all be all to winning championships, if they were, they would be leading their teams to Superbowls every year, but they aren't..

They aren't the reason teams don't win SBs either. I could see it now. Jerry and Stephen are sitting in the office and Stephen says "We need to let Dez go. When was the last time an elite WR won a SB?" Then Jerry says "Aha, that's the secret. You can't win with an Elite reciever."

 

[Nightman]

No it is not.

But hey I work in finance. I understand the concept of getting what you can when you've earned it.

That's why I can't in good conscious begrudge Dez for trying to do that for him and his family.

Right, but he's not a FA. What he could get on the open market is just a negotiating strategy. If he wants a long term deal with Dallas he can't play hardball.

Like Xwalker said, he will get his money. He just has to earn it, imagine that.

TSmith bet on himself and might see every dollar of his 10 year contract.