Dez Bryant arrested (911 Call-Post 847) **closed**

[Deep_Freeze]

When the 911 operator asked if he hit her she said he picked up a ball. And you are right, this was after the call that she said she got hit and whatever. You don't make a call like that if you are being beaten. You say something like, "My son is beating me."

It isn't something a normal person would do. You wouldn't go through all the stuff she did if something like that was happening.

Yeah, no matter how we want to sugar coat it, something happened. Was she getting a beatdown, probably not, but was she hit, pushed, something......who knows.

Of course they aren't normal, whatever normal is as most moms wouldn't call the cops on their kids regardless. Who knows why she did that, but the bottomline is it shouldn't have gotten to this point anyway and Dez does need to have better control of himself.

 

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[Cajuncowboy]

First of all, don't condescend me. People like you have no place for serious discussions. Second of all, I have a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science from Rutgers so I think I know a little bit about human anatomy. Again, I'm taking the police's word over yours. Maybe she had the bruising on the day of the attack, and it wasn't extensively noticeable until a day or two later.

And lastly, blocked.

Well, even from simply a logical perspective, she told the operator she wasn't hurt. She also said he had only pulled her hair. She refused any medical treatment. The cops I am sure asked her if there were any other injuries. At this point she would have certainly said if there was pain in her wrists, arms or whatever else she claims he hurt. Then to top it off, two days later she shows up with bruises and says "Lookie here!". THATS when the cop see some marks.

None of that is constant with being hurt in an altercation. She could have easily feel down the steps later that day, that night or the next day and blamed it on her "altercation".

And while you may have a degree in exercising it doesn't replace common sense and common knowledge.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Yeah, no matter how we want to sugar coat it, something happened. Was she getting a beatdown, probably not, but was she hit, pushed, something......who knows.

Of course they aren't normal, whatever normal is as most moms wouldn't call the cops on their kids regardless. Who knows why she did that, but the bottomline is it shouldn't have gotten to this point anyway and Dez does need to have better control of himself.

I agree something happened. But what we don't know. The fact that her story has changed more than you change a baby's diaper causes the intelligent person to be very wary of her story.

But we don't know if Dez needs to do anything about controlling his temper here because we don't know what he did.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Bryant's PR people are absolutely blowing this. No damage control, no spin, and more importantly they aren't bringing into question the character of his mother.

They haven't used the media or social networking to make any positive strides and now it's an ESPN daily topic, and adds an unnecessary distraction after an otherwise incredible offseason in Dallas.

Irvin could get away with it cause we were winning then, and he wasn't in the Internet era where things go viral in a matter of minutes.

I've said it since the beginning Dez has 'posse' issues, he's surrounded by the worst kinda people and his advisers clearly aren't doing their job. He doesn't need a Hamiltonesque babysitter, he just needs to be physically separated from these people and his past before he throws away a potentially great career.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Bryant's PR people are absolutely blowing this. No damage control, no spin, and more importantly they aren't bringing into question the character of his mother.

They haven't used the media or social networking to make any positive strides and now it's an ESPN daily topic, and adds an unnecessary distraction after an otherwise incredible offseason in Dallas.

Irvin could get away with it cause we were winning then, and he wasn't in the Internet era where things go viral in a matter of minutes.

I've said it since the beginning Dez has 'posse' issues, he's surrounded by the worst kinda people and his advisers clearly aren't doing their job. He doesn't need a Hamiltonesque babysitter, he just needs to be physically separated from these people and his past before he throws away a potentially great career.

Maybe they know what the facts and are just letting it take care of itself. And then maybe Dez is trying to protect his mom and just saying to let it go. Who knows. If it is as suspected that it was over her drug use and he got that upset over it he could still be protecting her. More than likely the Cowboys have already had their PR people advise on this thing already.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Bryant's PR people are absolutely blowing this. No damage control, no spin, and more importantly they aren't bringing into question the character of his mother.

Its a family issue, im sure its a sensitive thing.. and im also sure he doesn't want them degrading his mother to make himself look better. Just suggesting that even is kind of disgusting. Would you throw your mother under the bus to try and make yourself look better in a public setting? That's about as low as it gets, imo.

 

[Zordon]

If Goodell were to suspend Dez for the first game, how would you guys react?

Would you be more upset at Dez or Goodell?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

If Goodell were to suspend Dez for the first game, how would you guys react?

With the evidence that we have right now? It would be an injustice of epic proportions. So I think that means it will happen.

 

[Zordon]

With the evidence that we have right now? It would be an injustice of epic proportions. So I think that means it will happen.

Ok, I just wanted to gauge the temperature a bit from you guys b/c it seems to be a lot of tough talk in this thread about cutting him, suspending him, trading him. Does that mean yall are fine with a possible one game suspension from Goodell?

Personally, I'd probably go ape **** if Goodell pulled that stunt. Good to see someone else feels the same way. With the NFL network/ESPN drumming up a possible suspension and Goodell's giants being our first opponent, you're probably right about it being more likely than we think.

 

[Tabascocat]

If Goodell were to suspend Dez for the first game, how would you guys react?

Would you be more upset at Dez or Goodell?

Let the punishment fit the crime. At this point, we don't know what exactly happened.

Dez should be held accountable for his actions, but lets see what it is first.

 

[Gameover]

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You think the Cowboys had a good offense in 1989?You think Steve Walsh and a young Aikman are comparable to a veteran of Romo's stature?I guess.Receivers devoloped at a slower rate in Irvins era more than they do in Bryant's era.Bryant has advantages in every area over Irvin.(qb,the way games played,rules, formations, evolution,team around him)more importantly, no major injuries for Bryant

Either way saying Dez has been "all hype" after putting up a 70 catch, 1000 yard 9 TD season in his second year in the league is nothing short of silly.

I'll take Victor Cruz's numbers(same era.undrafted.no headaches.only salsa dancin')

 

[a_minimalist]

Ok, I just wanted to gauge the temperature a bit from you guys b/c it seems to be a lot of tough talk in this thread about cutting him, suspending him, trading him. Does that mean yall are fine with a possible one game suspension from Goodell?

Personally, I'd probably go ape **** if Goodell pulled that stunt. Good to see someone else feels the same way. With the NFL network/ESPN drumming up a possible suspension and Goodell's giants being our first opponent, you're probably right about it being more likely than we think.

If there was a suspension I suspect there would be a lot of people coming to the defense of Dez and bashing Goodell. All of the facts out there do far are in his favor. There is nothing to suspend him over. It's all "alleged"

 

[Hoofbite]

Bryant's PR people are absolutely blowing this. No damage control, no spin, and more importantly they aren't bringing into question the character of his mother.

They haven't used the media or social networking to make any positive strides and now it's an ESPN daily topic, and adds an unnecessary distraction after an otherwise incredible offseason in Dallas.

Irvin could get away with it cause we were winning then, and he wasn't in the Internet era where things go viral in a matter of minutes.

I've said it since the beginning Dez has 'posse' issues, he's surrounded by the worst kinda people and his advisers clearly aren't doing their job. He doesn't need a Hamiltonesque babysitter, he just needs to be physically separated from these people and his past before he throws away a potentially great career.

Ummm, because it's his mom. I doubt he'd sign off on a verbal assault against his mother.

Regardless of her history or their collective history, that's still the only mother he will ever have and he probably doesn't want to go that route.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I agree something happened. But what we don't know. The fact that her story has changed more than you change a baby's diaper causes the intelligent person to be very wary of her story.

But we don't know if Dez needs to do anything about controlling his temper here because we don't know what he did.

Yeah, I don't know know Dez well enough to say anything about his temper of course, but watching him on the field its obvious that his reactions are over the top sometimes, whether they are good or bad in that moment.

Who knows what happens behind closed doors, but I'm not willing to accept the crackhead theory or in that case we can just have national abuse a crackhead day if slapping crackheads is ok.....:

 

[jobberone]

Most likely the Cowboys told him to shut his mouth and let it play out.

Most likely his lawyer told him to not talk about it except with him. If he lays low this will blow over. His mother will never ever testify against him. He needs help learning how to deal with his mother without allowing himself to get into another situation with her or totally emotionally abandoning her. And the latter is more for his sake than hers.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Yeah, I don't know know Dez well enough to say anything about his temper of course, but watching him on the field its obvious that his reactions are over the top sometimes, whether they are good or bad in that moment.

Who knows what happens behind closed doors, but I'm not willing to accept the crackhead theory or in that case we can just have national abuse a crackhead day if slapping crackheads is ok.....:

I think personal credibility comes into play though. If you have a history of acting a certain way or doing something then people are going to judge your character based on that history so I think it is fair game to at least take that into consideration.

 

[Apollo Creed]

His mom is a crackhead former prostitute, people outside of the Cowboys fan base don't know that.

Sounds a lot better than, Bryant assaults perfectly innocent mother for absolutely no reason. You people are delusional if you think agents, GMs, marketing companies, etc aren't concerned with PR and preserving the image of their investment.

Fires like these don't burn themselves out in today's mass media era.

 

[Kaika]

Fan or not. If he did what they say he did?, dump him.
These crumbs have to learn there are consequences to their actions and should not play in the NFL ,it should be a privilege.

He should not get any slack from Cowboy fans Just because he's a Cowboy.

We have had our fill of crumbs, and this is just another one.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I think personal credibility comes into play though. If you have a history of acting a certain way or doing something then people are going to judge your character based on that history so I think it is fair game to at least take that into consideration.

Problem with that is Dez can be judged the same way, and that might not be a good judgement for him either (although obviously not as bad as his mom).

I just hope we can get the facts, and hopefully nothing bad happens to Dez or his mom for that matter.