Dez Bryant arrested (911 Call-Post 847) **closed**

[RoyTheHammer]

acl injury robbed irvin his 2nd and 3rd season.Irvin didn'l line up with a proven qb this young in his career.dez plays with a big play qb in an era designed for receivers to dominate the game.cant compare 88-89 with this era of football.it pisses me off when people do.totally different situations.Irvin didn't get into major trouble until after his 8th yr in the leauge, after he had became a star.

when did this happen?i dont remember that.

In your opinion, who had more of an impact on their team the first and second years they were in the league? Dez or Irvin? Who did more for their team?

 

[cowboy_ron]

Needs to be permanent.

:laugh2:

 

[TheSport78]

No, not the following day. The police first arrived Saturday, the second visit was Monday. So:

(1) Learn to read.
(2) Please point out how bruises and swelling waits one to two days to appear. I breathlessly await your link to the relevant WEBMD article.

"Police did not immediately arrest Bryant because police saw no evidence of the assault. Evidence of the injuries, however, surfaced a day or two later, said DeSoto police Capt. Ron Smith during a news conference Tuesday morning."

I'll take the police captain's word over yours. Thanks!

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I can't agree with that, who knows when the timing of the situation comes out...sometimes abuse happens for years before it surfaces if it ever does come to light at all.

Just cause she has a checkered past doesn't mean she is trying to work the system, and the bigger thing is why hit her in the first place. I don't really care if she was asking him for money or whatever, why if your Dez, put yourself in the position to hit her and give her that leverage.

The more important issue here is the abuse (if it happened), not the reasons for it.

#1 She didn't say he hit her.

#2 There are some saying that this has been going on for a while. With all the attention focused on the Cowboys and Dez in particular, this WOULD have come out a looooong time ago.

#3. The position he was was visiting his mom. I agree, he needs to stop doing that. Because she is a kook.

 

[RastaRocket]

Only one way this can truly get settled.

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[ODawg]

Just buy her some crack next time, Dez.

Ya she is a crack *****...

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Somewhere in a big house in Texas, Dez and his mom are sitting in front of a laptop drinking ice teas having a big laugh together right now.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

#1 She didn't say he hit her.

#2 There are some saying that this has been going on for a while. With all the attention focused on the Cowboys and Dez in particular, this WOULD have come out a looooong time ago.

#3. The position he was was visiting his mom. I agree, he needs to stop doing that. Because she is a kook.

They say she can kook some goo **** too!!
:laugh2:


Okay look, everyone loves their mom but sometimes distance is best for everyone. All he has to do is move to Valley Ranch, case cured.

 

[unionjack8]

Your opinion is married to meaningless. The facts hold up through it all, though. If it was close, i would give you the different era's argument.. but Dez has made more of an impact in his first two seasons than Irvin did. Its as simple as that.. and i think most would agree. Irvin went on to have a great sustained career, but he didn't really blossom until his 4th and 5th years in the league.

BTW.. did we all think Irvin had "much upstairs" when he was snorting lines and throwing hookers down stairs? Please.. spare us. Irvin was a very good receiver for us in an era where we won alot of games and were successful. Dez has every bit of talent that Irvin did, if not more, and is every bit the enigma as well. It remains to be seen how it will play out, but Irvin was not sensible in his off the field activities either.. and that's putting it nicely.

100% the truth

 

[Gameover]

In your opinion, who had more of an impact on their team the first and second years they were in the league? Dez or Irvin? Who did more for their team?

I would say the rookie years were a wash and Dez gets the nod in year two.

Dez was healthy!Michael was on pace for a 69 rec 1069 yd season in year two, though.

Dez has been the bigger dissapointment.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

#1 She didn't say he hit her.

#2 There are some saying that this has been going on for a while. With all the attention focused on the Cowboys and Dez in particular, this WOULD have come out a looooong time ago.

#3. The position he was was visiting his mom. I agree, he needs to stop doing that. Because she is a kook.

Yeah, in the above reference article though, there was some kinda physical altercation for her to have a torn tshirt and bra, and maybe hitting her with a ball cap and pulling her hair.

Maybe she didn't say it in that call, but that is what has been said later. Regardless of attention on an individual, things can be hidden and they are done all the time.

Dez just needs to keep himself out of situations like this, he seems emotional about things both on and off the field. That split second reaction can put someone in jail, and Dez needs more control over that split second, cause the remorse later doesn't help you once you have done something wrong in that split second.

 

[jobberone]

Fact.

Dez put himself in a situation that ended up with him getting arrested.

Fact.

This makes the team look terrible.

Fact.

Players are continually told to avoid situations that could lead to trouble.

Fact: Anyone can go to a magistrate with a plausible story and get a warrant for arrest. The fact the police did nothing at the scene is testimony for Dez. The police have a low tolerance for domestic abuse but they see crap all the time. If you aren't towed away in handcuffs then its generally a he said she said mess.

Fact: Nobody on this forum knows jack**** about what really happened and likely never will.

Fact: Most people have no idea about how the legal system works or the ins and outs of domestic calls and how to respond to them much less having premature judgments about either party.

 

[DeaconBlues]

"Police did not immediately arrest Bryant because police saw no evidence of the assault. Evidence of the injuries, however, surfaced a day or two later, said DeSoto police Capt. Ron Smith during a news conference Tuesday morning."

I'll take the police captain's word over yours. Thanks!

Ok, I'll type slowly for you, since you don't basic human anatomy, or domestic violence laws.

Bruises and swelling may take hours to appear, but not days. Per the 911 call, she did not mention being hit in the parts of the body where the bruising and swelling appeared. She did mention the tearing of clothes and being hit in the face with a cap.

The police came back on Monday because she called them. The injuries appeared at that time. All the captain said was that the injuries appeared on Monday. If she was truly injured, why not call when she woke up on Sunday?

Domestic violence laws in most states, and likely Texas, dictate that the police must make an arrest if a victim displays physical injury. This is why the police did not seek a warrant on Saturday, as there was a complaint but no injury. On Monday, there was a complaint with injury.

Now I know this is difficult for you to keep up with, but question: If she was injured Saturday night, but they didn't appear immediately, why wait until Monday to call? It does not take a day or two for bruises and swelling to appear.

If she had a broken bone or internal injuries, yes, those can take time to become apparent. But tissue damage? Try again Skippy.

What happened on Sunday? Police department closed? Phone cut off?

I don't doubt the injuries were there on Monday. I just doubt they occurred Saturday.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Somewhere in a big house in Texas, Dez and his mom are sitting in front of a laptop drinking ice teas having a big laugh together right now.

I can really see this. Would not be the slightest bit surprised.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Yeah, in the above reference article though, there was some kinda physical altercation for her to have a torn tshirt and bra, and maybe hitting her with a ball cap and pulling her hair.

Maybe she didn't say it in that call, but that is what has been said later. Regardless of attention on an individual, things can be hidden and they are done all the time.

Dez just needs to keep himself out of situations like this, he seems emotional about things both on and off the field. That split second reaction can put someone in jail, and Dez needs more control over that split second cause the remorse later doesn't help you out once you have done something wrong in that split second.

When the 911 operator asked if he hit her she said he picked up a ball. And you are right, this was after the call that she said she got hit and whatever. You don't make a call like that if you are being beaten. You say something like, "My son is beating me."

It isn't something a normal person would do. You wouldn't go through all the stuff she did if something like that was happening.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I would say the rookie years were a wash, and Dez gets the nod in year two.

Dez was healthy!Michael was on pace for a 69 rec 1069 yd season in year two, though.

Dez has been the bigger dissapointment.

Dez scored alot more in his first two years and also had more yards and more catches in his rookie year than Irvin. The reason i don't want to hear the "different era" argument is because when Irvin blossomed in his 4th and 5th years, he was putting up 90 catches a year and 1500 yards.. which would still be great numbers in today's game for any receiver. I understand people hold Irvin in a much higher regard right now because he was here in a time when we were successful and won 3 super bowls, and we haven't won much yet with Dez, but as far as their impact on the team, both played in very good offenses, and Dez has simply done more in his first two years.

Either way saying Dez has been "all hype" after putting up a 70 catch, 1000 yard 9 TD season in his second year in the league is nothing short of silly.

 

[TheSport78]

Ok, I'll type slowly for you, since you don't basic human anatomy, or domestic violence laws.

Bruises and swelling may take hours to appear, but not days. Per the 911 call, she did not mention being hit in the parts of the body where the bruising and swelling appeared. She did mention the tearing of clothes and being hit in the face with a cap.

The police came back on Monday because she called them. The injuries appeared at that time. All the captain said was that the injuries appeared on Monday. If she was truly injured, why not call when she woke up on Sunday?

Domestic violence laws in most states, and likely Texas, dictate that the police must make an arrest if a victim displays physical injury. This is why the police did not seek a warrant on Saturday, as there was a complaint but no injury. On Monday, there was a complaint with injury.

Now I know this is difficult for you to keep up with, but question: If she was injured Saturday night, but they didn't appear immediately, why wait until Monday to call? It does not take a day or two for bruises and swelling to appear.

If she had a broken bone or internal injuries, yes, those can take time to become apparent. But tissue damage? Try again Skippy.

What happened on Sunday? Police department closed? Phone cut off?

I don't doubt the injuries were there on Monday. I just doubt they occurred Saturday.

First of all, don't condescend me. People like you have no place for serious discussions. Second of all, I have a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science from Rutgers so I think I know a little bit about human anatomy. Again, I'm taking the police's word over yours. Maybe she had the bruising on the day of the attack, and it wasn't extensively noticeable until a day or two later.

And lastly, blocked.

 

[DeaconBlues]

First of all, don't condescend me. People like you have no place for serious discussions. Second of all, I have a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science from Rutgers so I think I know a little bit about human anatomy. Again, I'm taking the police's word over yours. Maybe she had the bruising on the day of the attack, and it wasn't extensively noticeable until a day or two later.

And lastly, blocked.

:laugh2::spidey::squirrel::beatit:

 

[RoyTheHammer]

First of all, don't condescend me. People like you have no place for serious discussions. Second of all, I have a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science from Rutgers so I think I know a little bit about human anatomy. Again, I'm taking the police's word over yours. Maybe she had the bruising on the day of the attack, and it wasn't extensively noticeable until a day or two later.

And lastly, blocked.

Or maybe she injured herself and called police back afterwards?

Or maybe she just completely made up the story of what happened..

Both scenarios are just as likely as that of Dez hitting her right now, as far as im concerned. This is a woman who has lied to the police before, mind you.

EDIT: Also, it would be "don't condescend 'to' me".. js.

 

[TheSport78]

Or maybe she injured herself and called police back afterwards?

Or maybe she just completely made up the story of what happened..

Both scenarios are just as likely as that of Dez hitting her right now, as far as im concerned. This is a woman who has lied to the police before, mind you.

This is true. It's very early right now.