Dez: Get ready to take the blame Dak

Adreme

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well yes

dak want all the money dak can have all the blame

that is why franchise qb get so much because they can elevate every one around them and they get less talent because of the salary cap

well dak cant but real franchise qb can
Apparently the NFL has only 1 real franchise QB then and the rest do not fit your definition because only QB in the NFL is doing that.
 

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I wonder if Dak will be barking out "I'm gone" instead of "here we go". this season.
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Apparently the NFL has only 1 real franchise QB then and the rest do not fit your definition because only QB in the NFL is doing that.
no

there are a few qb who elevate talent

mahomes, rodgers, burrow, for sure maybe 1 or 2 more but they are rare

dak is not one of them though sorry
 

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If an extreme portion of a teams salary is tied up in one individual, then that individual either needs to play up to to the level of the contract or be ready to shoulder the blame.
 

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no

there are a few qb who elevate talent

mahomes, rodgers, burrow, for sure maybe 1 or 2 more but they are rare

dak is not one of them though sorry
Rodgers has not been that in 2 years and fun fact when he was that they never went anywhere. The only time the Packers became good again is when they got Adams who was at the time the best WR in football (almost like doing more with less does not work well in the playoffs). Burrow has the best or 2nd best WR in the NFL another top 10 WR in the NFL and an above average OLine. He has not done more with less, he has shown why 31 starting QBs need great players to win.

So yes there is 1 QB who fits the definition of "does more with less" and the rest all have a ton of talent and go as far as that talent takes them.
 

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Rodgers has not been that in 2 years and fun fact when he was that they never went anywhere. The only time the Packers became good again is when they got Adams who was at the time the best WR in football (almost like doing more with less does not work well in the playoffs). Burrow has the best or 2nd best WR in the NFL another top 10 WR in the NFL and an above average OLine. He has not done more with less, he has shown why 31 starting QBs need great players to win.

So yes there is 1 QB who fits the definition of "does more with less" and the rest all have a ton of talent and go as far as that talent takes them.
lol i watch joe burrow take the bengals to a super bowl in his 2nd season with a GARBAGE o line (above avg oline? lol)

rodgers been to 5 nfc champion ship games with mostly crap

like i said franchise qbs elevate the talent around them

like burrow and rodgers
 

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If an extreme portion of a teams salary is tied up in one individual, then that individual either needs to play up to to the level of the contract or be ready to shoulder the blame.
Or how about the dummy writing the checks?
 

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lol i watch joe burrow take the bengals to a super bowl in his 2nd season with a GARBAGE o line (above avg oline? lol)

rodgers been to 5 nfc champion ship games with mostly crap

like i said franchise qbs elevate the talent around them

like burrow and rodgers
Adams was still Adams without Rodgers. Hill was still Hill without Mahomes (actually a little better). So they are not actually elevating the players.

Meanwhile again once Rodgers got paid they were getting knocked out of the playoffs because they did not have talent. Rodgers was basically considered washed up so much that they drafted his replacement and then Adams becomes Adams and suddenly they are making the NFC Championship game again. Almost as though what matters is having talent around you. Meanwhile again Burrow has 2 top 10 receivers and Chase would be the best skill position player on the Cowboys since Irvin.

So again by your definition there is 1 franchise QB who can win with less and even he does not make his best players look better than they are.
 

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The Jones family agreed to pay Dak right?

If you believe that Dak's play and contract is holding the team back, shouldn't the people responsible for agreeing to that contract be held responsible as well?

There are Cowboy fans who seem to think the Jones family are victims in all this.
Who on earth has been having a pity party for the Joneses? They get roasted 24/7.

You own it, you gotta own it.
 
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