Dez targets in Philly Game

[Yakuza Rich]

If Dak wasn't awful, Dez would have had probably 200 yds plus. The problem wasn't going to Dez, it was throwing awful passes to Dez.

I agree. Dak missed some big passes to Dez. But, the offense changes when have Dez in there as we run less combo routes which Dak has been good at. With Dez, there's more anticipation involved in the routes and Dak still has a ways to go there. But, part of that is getting Dak and Dez on the field together and getting them more in-game reps. If we can go 3-1 over these next 4 games and have both Dez and Dak in each game, I think we'll start to hit a good stride after Thanksgiving.



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[aikemirv]

Like I said in another thread about this. If Dez was the correct read on the 14 targets then that is a big positive for Dak (making the correct read). If some easier throws were open then Dak went at Dez a bit too much based on degree of difficulty and ensuing pass rush.

Now, just make an accurate pass

 

[Ranching]

I think some of the throws were his mechanics. Poor foot placement.

That's probably attributed to the rush package that Philly through at him. He got more comfortable with the speed of the rush as the game wore on. Great learning experience.

 

[slick325]

Dez was open for TDs at least twice that I remember (left hash fade route and post from the right hash) and Prescott missed him horribly both times. Don't have a problem with the targets because Dez is a playmaker. You get the ball to playmakers as much as possible. Don't force it but try to put the ball in the hands of playmakers. Good throws and Dez has 3TDs Sunday night. No one is even discussing his targets if he had 3TDs.

 

[Proof]

I heard on Sirius NFL that Dak targeted Dez 14 times in the Philly game. He only caught 3 or 4. The 10 or 11 misses really hold back this offense. I'm not saying don't throw it to Dez, but I am saying quit forcing it to him down the field. The offense looked anemic for much of the game, which hasn't been the case since the Giants game.

The Sirius commentators (Kirwin-IIRC) that a coach is probably going to have to have a talk with Dez about pestering Dak for the ball. It doesn't serve Dak well. Dak will probably also have to learn to tune Dez out, and only throw to him when he is open. That's not every play Dez says he is open.

I will also add that with 14 targets Dez should be having A.J. Green type of numbers to warrant that many targets.

You're in luck!

AJ green 9 catches on 18 targets for 121 and no tds

Dez 4 catches on 14 targets for 113 and a (game tying) TD

Glad we could clear that up for you

 

[NickZepp]

If you look at the targets I bet Dez was open on about 8 of the 10 missed targets.

 

[dfense]

I heard on Sirius NFL that Dak targeted Dez 14 times in the Philly game. He only caught 3 or 4. The 10 or 11 misses really hold back this offense. I'm not saying don't throw it to Dez, but I am saying quit forcing it to him down the field. The offense looked anemic for much of the game, which hasn't been the case since the Giants game.

The Sirius commentators (Kirwin-IIRC) that a coach is probably going to have to have a talk with Dez about pestering Dak for the ball. It doesn't serve Dak well. Dak will probably also have to learn to tune Dez out, and only throw to him when he is open. That's not every play Dez says he is open.

I will also add that with 14 targets Dez should be having A.J. Green type of numbers to warrant that many targets.

I'd say Dak throwing 40% of his passes at peoples feet might hold this offense back a little, no?

 

[AbeBeta]

This is where numbers lie. Dak had a NUMBER of underthrown and overthrown passes. Dak was horribly inaccurate for 3 quarters worth of play and NO ONE else on this roster would have tied the game up with that catch he made in double coverage

Numbers don't lie. Interpretation of numbers can stink though.

 

[drawandstrike]

From what I saw Dak spent 3 quarters thinking too much about the rush while staying in the pocket. His footwork wasn't good, he was throwing while backpedaling many times.

By the fourth quarter I think Romo had calmed him down and urged him to move and roll out if he had to, like he did on the game winning play when he moved up in the pocket then rolled out to the left to give himself some space and then finding Witten in the end zone.

Dak does need more pro coaching on his release and his footwork, no doubt about it. He will face more great defensive front sevens like this that will put the pressure on him and he's got to be able to get the ball out quicker with more velocity on it while setting his feet.

As has been mentioned in this thread, when the pressure mounts Dak's footwork is breaking down, leading to some awful throws, several that bounced off the field well short of the intended target. Other times it resulted in slow, fluttering passes that defenders were able to position themselves to defense. I counted 3 passes to Dez successfully defensed by Eagle players because the ball arrived too slowly.

14 targets, but about 1/2 of those targets were inaccurate passes where Dez couldn't really even attempt a play on the ball. 3 were defensed due to being slow in the release, and 4 were on target and resulted 113 yards and 1 TD.

As he grows in this pro style offense and learns to play the NFL game, Dak will get better at throwing the mid to deep stuff to the WR's. We have a good coaching staff and he has an awesome mentor in Tony Romo, one of the best. I'm not worried about this kid at all.

As far as Dez goes, even with Dak's problems with inaccuracy last night, Dez still turned 4 catches into 113 yards. Once he and Dak are on the same page and in sync together and Dak gets coached up, they will be a formidable duo for defenses to stop.

 

[CooterBrown]

I think the issue was lack of time together on the field. On that one play Dez was wide open on a post route and Dak threw a crossing route. Of course he missed by 15 yards. Those issues will work themselves out over time. If Dez is single covered, he should be the first look every time. With that said, I will echo the previous posters who mentioned Dak's footwork was bad. Throwing off his back foot way too often.

 

[theebs]

uh dez was wide open for three TD's and the throws were awful. Not to mention the missed throw on that deep in late that may have been a td.

Those targets and catches do not tell the whole story and its sad that a guy like kirwin is on the radio playing into this Dez will ruin the chemistry/offense narrative.

 

[Clove]

I heard on Sirius NFL that Dak targeted Dez 14 times in the Philly game. He only caught 3 or 4. The 10 or 11 misses really hold back this offense. I'm not saying don't throw it to Dez, but I am saying quit forcing it to him down the field. The offense looked anemic for much of the game, which hasn't been the case since the Giants game.

The Sirius commentators (Kirwin-IIRC) that a coach is probably going to have to have a talk with Dez about pestering Dak for the ball. It doesn't serve Dak well. Dak will probably also have to learn to tune Dez out, and only throw to him when he is open. That's not every play Dez says he is open.

I will also add that with 14 targets Dez should be having A.J. Green type of numbers to warrant that many targets.

I will just say he was right to target Dez in one on one situations which was quite often. The problem was timing. There timing is really off right now, and I think they need to work on that a lot this week. How many other teams leave Dez one on one to take away measley Beasley?

 

[The Natural]

I heard on Sirius NFL that Dak targeted Dez 14 times in the Philly game. He only caught 3 or 4. The 10 or 11 misses really hold back this offense. I'm not saying don't throw it to Dez, but I am saying quit forcing it to him down the field. The offense looked anemic for much of the game, which hasn't been the case since the Giants game.

The Sirius commentators (Kirwin-IIRC) that a coach is probably going to have to have a talk with Dez about pestering Dak for the ball. It doesn't serve Dak well. Dak will probably also have to learn to tune Dez out, and only throw to him when he is open. That's not every play Dez says he is open.

I will also add that with 14 targets Dez should be having A.J. Green type of numbers to warrant that many targets.

did anyone who watched the game see Dez "pestering" Dak for the ball?

 

[Proof]

did anyone who watched the game see Dez "pestering" Dak for the ball?

Why are you talking about watching the game? Who does that when you can just get the hot takes on Sirius

 

[Clove]

Also let me say this, the fades in the end zone should only be done via "under center". Two fades to Dez were from the shotgun.

 

[mattjames2010]

Spin, spin, spin to take heat off Dak.

Dak forced the ball to more than just Dez. Difference is, the balls he forced to Dez didn't result in turnovers. One to Butler did and another to Williams nearly turned into an INT.

 

[Proof]

Spin, spin, spin to take heat off Dak.

Dak forced the ball to more than just Dez. Difference is, the balls he forced to Dez didn't result in turnovers. One to Butler did and another to Williams nearly turned into an INT.

T wills offensive PI in the endzone was arguably the play of the game

 

[Doomsday101]

Spin, spin, spin to take heat off Dak.

Dak forced the ball to more than just Dez. Difference is, the balls he forced to Dez didn't result in turnovers. One to Butler did and another to Williams nearly turned into an INT.

Going to Dez in a one on one is not forcing anything Romo would go after that just as well. Dak did not play well so I don't see how that is taking him off the hook. As far as I'm concerned he took himself off the hook by keeping things together and got hot in the 4th qrt to get that game tied up and then winning it the 4th.

 

[AdamJT13]

Dak averaged 8.1 yards per attempt when throwing to Dez and 7.0 yards per attempt (and 5.0 ANYA) when throwing to everyone else.

Yep, throwing to Dez was the problem.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I heard on Sirius NFL that Dak targeted Dez 14 times in the Philly game. He only caught 3 or 4. The 10 or 11 misses really hold back this offense. I'm not saying don't throw it to Dez, but I am saying quit forcing it to him down the field. The offense looked anemic for much of the game, which hasn't been the case since the Giants game.

The Sirius commentators (Kirwin-IIRC) that a coach is probably going to have to have a talk with Dez about pestering Dak for the ball. It doesn't serve Dak well. Dak will probably also have to learn to tune Dez out, and only throw to him when he is open. That's not every play Dez says he is open.

I will also add that with 14 targets Dez should be having A.J. Green type of numbers to warrant that many targets.

The takeaway here is that Dez is healthy.