Did anyone else hear Jerry with Norm...

[lurkercowboy]

We used to play it in HS as the 3-4 Monster, Roy as the monster back would be cool.

So did my school.

 

[stealth]

If he's not, he has absolutely no business playing corner.

he is one of the best 2nd corners in the league, stop hating on the guy he is a solid player. He has been hurt the last two seasons and yet every sunday he gives it his all for us. The man deserves far more respect than most on here give him.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I agree, though I don't see the "hate" in Chocolate Lab's response.....he played most of this season injured and still remained respectable in my opinion.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

he is one of the best 2nd corners in the league, stop hating on the guy he is a solid player. He has been hurt the last two seasons and yet every sunday he gives it his all for us. The man deserves far more respect than most on here give him.

I never hated on the guy. I think he's a good corner when he's healthy.

I just said that corners are faster than safeties, so if he isn't fast enough for safety, he shouldn't be at corner.

In other words, yes, he's fast enough for safety.

My question is if it would really be that easy a transition for him. I'm not sure it would be.

 

[superpunk]

Looks like Jerry's just as bored as us.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Yeah, that does sound a lot like the 46 defense.

 

[InmanRoshi]

If Roy is playing a freelance "rover", he better make a hell of a lot of plays to earn his keep. Because, basically, everyone else is having to take on extra responsibility in order to make Roy look good. And with one less defensive end or linebacker in the front 7, Roy better not get stonewalled by a 210 lbs. running back on a blitz pickup like he was so often this season.

 

[TVMan]

If Roy is playing a freelance "rover", he better make a hell of a lot of plays to earn his keep. Because, basically, everyone else is having to take on extra responsibility in order to make Roy look good.

So, you're saying it wouldn't be a good thing then?

 

[InmanRoshi]

So, you're saying it wouldn't be a good thing then?

What theoretically is this starting lineup of the 3-3-1-4? Is Roy going to have to compensate for one less defensive lineman or linebacker by having to take on an offensive lineman or a lead blocking fullback for the first time in his career?

It might be good for Roy, but not good for the team overall. Just like force feeding the ball TO on every snap might be good for him, but not good for the team overall.

 

[stealth]

I never hated on the guy. I think he's a good corner when he's healthy.

I just said that corners are faster than safeties, so if he isn't fast enough for safety, he shouldn't be at corner.

In other words, yes, he's fast enough for safety.

My question is if it would really be that easy a transition for him. I'm not sure it would be.

I think I glossed over the "if" in your statement, humble apoligies.

 

[TVMan]

What theoretically is this starting lineup of the 3-3-1-4? Is Roy going to have to compensate for one less defensive lineman or linebacker by having to take on an offensive lineman or a lead blocking fullback for the first time in his career?

It might be good for Roy, but not good for the team overall. Just like force feeding the ball TO on every snap might be good for him, but not good for the team overall.

I can see the T.O. analogy. That makes sense. I can also see the advantages of Roy running to the ball. If Roy is back to blowing up plays, then that is good for the team. Right?

 

[visionary]

this is exactly the sort of off the wall, crazy stuff that starts when we dont have a real DC and a lame duck, one-year HC on his last legs.

 

[jazzcat22]

I did hear the interview. Norm asked Jerry if they would consider moving Henry to FS. Jerry quickly answered yes, but that was the extent of the discussion concerning Henry. Norm asked Jerry if they would consider moving Williams to OLB in the 3-4. Jerry said that was going too far, but there are things they can do to move him closer to the line of scrimmage where he can make a greater impact. Jerry cited Pittsburgh as a team that plays their safety close the line of scrimmage and does different things with their coverages to compensate.

Yes, this pretty much sums it up. But I took the Pittsburgh comment as a comparison only. As that is what they do, but doesn't mean they would do the exact same thing, but something based on it.

Norm took the quick "yes" answer on moving Henry as if it will happen. But I took it as it is a possibility for now. Many things can happen, if they don't get a guy in FA or the Draft to either play FS or to replace Henry at CB, then why move him.

JJ said he is content with BP year to year thing right now. And he does not want to give any of his coaches long term contracts.

Looks like he's setting it up so a new coach next year [if BP stays] can bring in his own guys and not have leftovers.

 

[theogt]

Yes, this pretty much sums it up. But I took the Pittsburgh comment as a comparison only. As that is what they do, but doesn't mean they would do the exact same thing, but something based on it.

Norm took the quick "yes" answer on moving Henry as if it will happen. But I took it as it is a possibility for now. Many things can happen, if they don't get a guy in FA or the Draft to either play FS or to replace Henry at CB, then why move him.

JJ said he is content with BP year to year thing right now. And he does not want to give any of his coaches long term contracts.

Looks like he's setting it up so a new coach next year [if BP stays] can bring in his own guys and not have leftovers.

Taken with Jerry's comments about focusing on defense in the draft, this would almost assuredly mean a CB in the first or second round, which is fine with me.

And all this talk about a 3-3-5 Nickel (which is what a 3-3-1-4 is) is ridiculous. I don't want a 220 lb. defensive back taking on offensive linemen every down.

 

[dmq]

So you take a guy who is arguably one of the better 2nd corners in the league and you move him to a spot that most defensive coaches would admit is among the easiest to find a quality player for?

Me, I think finding a good 2nd CB is FAR more difficult than finding an FS. We've had problems there but what have we invested so far? A 5th round pick? A new contract for Keith Davis?

We've tried to do this on the cheap -- it will still be far cheaper to get an FS than a new corner.

I say sign Pete Hunter to FS. He played lights out against us last week.

 

[TVMan]

And all this talk about a 3-3-5 Nickel (which is what a 3-3-1-4 is) is ridiculous. I don't want a 220 lb. defensive back taking on offensive linemen every down.

If it is a 46, then he shouldn't be. I assume he would be stunting and blitzing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Roy is playing a freelance "rover", he better make a hell of a lot of plays to earn his keep. Because, basically, everyone else is having to take on extra responsibility in order to make Roy look good. And with one less defensive end or linebacker in the front 7, Roy better not get stonewalled by a 210 lbs. running back on a blitz pickup like he was so often this season.

I agree with you Rosh. I just can't imagine a Pro Team playing a Rover scheme. If, in fact, that is what happened, it would mean that we would need one heck of a FS. Would also mean that we go completely away from a Cover2. I just can't see that happening.

 

[theogt]

If it is a 46, then he shouldn't be. I assume he would be stunting and blitzing.

Oh yes, this sounds like a Bill Parcells defense for sure.

 

[TVMan]

Oh yes, this sounds like a Bill Parcells defense for sure.

I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[JPM]

I don't understand has Watkins not showed anyone in Dallas that he can't play FS at a high level ? I don't expect 10 picks a year but I do think he has good hands, improved his tackling technique this year. I'm not ready to give up on him.