Did Cowboys cut two players because they didn't wear suits?

[dogberry]

Would wearing a leisure suit meet the team rules?

Oh, and a string tie?

 

[Bigdog]

It was linebacker John Roper. It was the day after his baby was born too. He was up late due to the birth and fell asleep in the meeting and Johnson cut him.

First time i heard about that.

 

[Hardline]

Jimmy cut the "Asthma Field " guy also.

 

[cowboys2233]

http://www.sportsdaydfw.com/dallas-...hristine-michael-corey-white-lack-performance

Interesting read, but there's a player quote in there that gives it a little validity. If I recall correctly, it was a "second offense" for both, as neither wore the required attire for the team's visit to the 9/11 Memorial earlier this season. In other words, it's not just the matter of not wearing a suit, but an indicator of a bigger issue, such as a respect for team rules and authority in general.

I was skeptical of the "official" reason given that their respective releases were performance-related, especially in the case of Corey White. I thought he performed pretty well when he was healthy.

It's a solid reason to get fired. Work hard throughout your football career, become a one in a million guy who actually earns a paycheck in the NFL...and then get cut because you decide that wearing a suit just isn't for you. Makes sense.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah, you guys are kinda missing the point here.

It's not like the football players are going out onto the field with just shorts and a t-shirt. I mean, you can basically wear your pajamas on the sideline if you are out a game, but you have to wear a nice suit when getting on a plane?

It's dumb, it does nothing to improve the game, it's just them looking nice for the stupid cameras.

Group conformity in a team environment is not pointless. I know it is inconvenient to the people it is being done to but esprit de corps is built in such a way.When you all dress alike, have the same schedule, etc it builds a singular identity. If you have 53 guys all doing their own thing then that is what you will get on game day.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was raised that it is your responsibility to meet the expectations of your employment and wear what the company policy requires.

Too many kids simply aren't raised on principles anymore.

I think the bigger issue is that kids these days don't trust their elders and I cannot blame them. You have to explain more but I am like that myself so I am fine with it.

 

[Craig]

Since hes gone, I guess people now have no chance of learning that there isnt an "s" in Michael's last name.

 

[cowboys2233]

I think the bigger issue is that kids these days don't trust their elders and I cannot blame them. You have to explain more but I am like that myself so I am fine with it.

You can't blame a guy for getting fired simply because he wouldn't wear a suit? I can. What a moron.

 

[bounce]

Yeah, you guys are kinda missing the point here.

It's not like the football players are going out onto the field with just shorts and a t-shirt. I mean, you can basically wear your pajamas on the sideline if you are out a game, but you have to wear a nice suit when getting on a plane?

It's dumb, it does nothing to improve the game, it's just them looking nice for the stupid cameras.

You're the one that is missing the point. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is - they still gave it the finger, which probably points to a trend rather than a one-off.

 

[cowboys2233]

You're the one that is missing the point. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is - they still gave it the finger, which probably points to a trend rather than a one-off.

Who cares? These two players still have their pride, as idiotic and misguided as it is. Isn't that what's most important?

 

[Kaiser]

Alternate Headline;

Two players cut for dress code and poor performance, but mostly poor performance.

 

[remdak]

Being a manager at various times in my career, I believe this is probably more "The Straw that Broke The Camel's Back" rather than the sole reason they are gone. You finally realize the employee is not worth the headache. It's not the single incident, but the accumulation.

 

[1fisher]

Yeah, you guys are kinda missing the point here.

It's not like the football players are going out onto the field with just shorts and a t-shirt. I mean, you can basically wear your pajamas on the sideline if you are out a game, but you have to wear a nice suit when getting on a plane?

It's dumb, it does nothing to improve the game, it's just them looking nice for the stupid cameras.

Wrong..... it's about being a professional!

 

[Nightman]

Flew right over your head, didn't it? To begin with, all professional sports have a dress code for travel, but even that isn't the issue BG was alluding to. Rather, it may have been an indicator of a bigger issue, such as respect for team rules.

You may even have some rules at work that you don't agree with. You still abide by them, though.

You guys are so predictable.

"I have to run to defend the rules no matter how dumb they are."

The teams are traveling on a private plane to a football game, a suit does not belong. I had coaches that made us were coat and ties to high school games on buses when the other team didn't have locker room facilities. Don't wear team sweats without a shower, gotta look right.

Yeah genius you saw Knute Rockne do it and that is why he was a successful coach.

Does Bill Belichick look professional following the NFL's rules or does he win looking like a bum?

AND the point wasn't necessarily about the rule but cutting guys at thin positions to prove a point before viable backups were in place. Is that best for the team or for JG's ego?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Yeah, you guys are kinda missing the point here.

It's not like the football players are going out onto the field with just shorts and a t-shirt. I mean, you can basically wear your pajamas on the sideline if you are out a game, but you have to wear a nice suit when getting on a plane?

It's dumb, it does nothing to improve the game, it's just them looking nice for the stupid cameras.

You're missing the point. The coach tells you to do something, you do it.

 

[CWR]

No they cut 2 players because they sucked and didn't help their cases by not wearing suits. Marginal players don't get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[TheCount]

I'd like to wear shorts and flip flops to work, but, I can't, so I wear what the people who give me money tell me to wear.

If you were valuable enough to your company, you could show up to work in a big bird costume and not get so much as a batted eye.

It boils down to performance, if Michael and White were Peterson & Revis, they'd still be on the roster. Then again, Peterson and Revis probably got to where they are because they at least know better than to disobey simple rules like a dress code.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

You guys are so predictable.

"I have to run to defend the rules no matter how dumb they are."

The teams are traveling on a private plane to a football game, a suit does not belong. I had coaches that made us were coat and ties to high school games on buses when the other team didn't have locker room facilities. Don't wear team sweats without a shower, gotta look right.

Yeah genius you saw Knute Rockne do it and that is why he was a successful coach.

Does Bill Belichick look professional following the NFL's rules or does he win looking like a bum?

AND the point wasn't necessarily about the rule but cutting guys at thin positions to prove a point before viable backups were in place. Is that best for the team or for JG's ego?

That's your thought process. Who says it don't belong? Evidently 51 of the 53 players got the message, and did it. It was absolutely the best thing for the team to cut to cut them. I tell my managers all the time, you can't fire someone when its convenient for you to do so. If they deserve to be fired, you do that right then and there, period. If you have rules and you expect them to be followed, you don't let someone get by with it just because they play a position that might be short. That sends the wrong message. Besides, someone is paying you a lot of money to play a kids game, and you can't put on a suit when expected, that's just plain stupid and stupid should always be fired.

 

[Nightman]

That's your thought process. Who says it don't belong? Evidently 51 of the 53 players got the message, and did it. It was absolutely the best thing for the team to cut to cut them. I tell my managers all the time, you can't fire someone when its convenient for you to do so. If they deserve to be fired, you do that right then and there, period. If you have rules and you expect them to be followed, you don't let someone get by with it just because they play a position that might be short. That sends the wrong message. Besides, someone is paying you a lot of money to play a kids game, and you can't put on a suit when expected, that's just plain stupid and stupid should always be fired.

I didn't say they shouldn't follow the rules. I said it was a stupid rule.

Coaches of all kinds have stupid rules for stupid reasons.

Timing might not matter in your business but in the NFL it matters. Especially when you have a limited number of chances left to get it right,

It is the classic 'cutting off the nose to spite the face'

 

[Cowboy4ever]

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I didn't say they shouldn't follow the rules. I said it was a stupid rule.

Coaches of all kinds have stupid rules for stupid reasons.

Timing might not matter in your business but in the NFL it matters. Especially when you have a limited number of chances left to get it right,

It is the classic 'cutting off the nose to spite the face'

And what would have had them do in this case when the players disrespected the coaches? Fine them? According the quote, "sometimes you have to put the hammer down", sounds like this was not an isolated event. So they would have been fined before and still decided not to follow the rules. And timing does matter but at the same time they could have been making a bigger mistake in not cutting them when they did. I see no fault whatsoever with their decision or the timing of it. I do fault their judgement of acquiring CM with a draft pick, they should have known these issues before they did the trade. It really looks like a panic move now and that should never happen so I do blame them for that.