Difference between Dak and Romo

[Everson24]

Dak's a different type of QB than Tony Romo and we don't have the receivers that will complement Dak's strengths. Tony Romo was a gunslinger with one of the quickest releases the NFL has ever measured. Right up there with Dan Marino. Tony Romo was never afraid to throw the ball into tight windows. This got him into trouble at times but because of his anticipation and quick release, he was able to make some wide receivers look better than they were (Patrick Crayton, Miles Austin, Laurent Robinson, Dez Bryant).

Dak, on the other hand, is more like an athletic Joe Flacco. He needs to see his receiver open before he releases the ball. He is risk-averse to a fault in my opinion. The windows in the NFL are small and they don't stay open long as evidenced by a few of his interceptions to the sidelines where he threw the ball too late.

This was my main concern with Dak coming into this season. I knew for him to become a consistent top quarterback in this league, he would have to develop anticipation and be able to apply it when he is seeing multiple looks from a defense. As witnessed these last few games he is not there yet.

He can be a really good quarterback in Jason Garrett's basic offense as long as he has a dominant running game but on his own, until he learns to throw with anticipation and throw receivers open, He will be a train wreck.

If I were Jerry Jones, I would try to get Dak in an offensive system that has quicker outside receivers (like a Golden Tate or Emmanuel Sanders) and a system that can scheme receivers open. Without a running game, Dak is in the wrong system for his strengths.

This post may seem like I've given up on Dak but I haven't. He has a lot of great intangibles that you love from your quarterback. He is a natural born leader (you can clearly see how his teammates respect him). He is a stand-up guy He is a relentless worker and a super competitor. I mentioned this earlier this year when a Zeke suspension seemed imminent. These six games without Zeke will be a blessing in disguise. He will learn more about playing the position in these games than the other 27 games combined. How he responds to all the heat may very well determine if we have indeed found our franchise quarterback. Knowing what I know from Dak, I'm not betting against him.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Please stop those threads. Dak is playing his second season.

Romo was surrounded with prime talent at the receiving and most of the time at the RB position. The OL was also very good most of the time.

Romo was never a QB that was able to elevate people around him. He feeded from the talent around him. He was good no question, but he was not in the likes of e.g. Favre or Rodgers. Those are QBs who elevate(d) players around them.

Romo never had a 3 game stretch like Dak just put up.........NEVER.

And Romo never elevated people around him? Well Larant Robinson is a millionaire today thanks to Romo so this is news to him.

 

[Walker]

I've been saying forever that perhaps the biggest mistake outside of firing Jimmy Johnson Jerry ever made was not turning the reins over to Sean Payton. That man knew offensive football like few others and Parcell's knew it.

Sean Payton and Wade Phillips on the same team, dam i would love that here in Dallas.

 

[GoJacks]

Don't misunderstand me....Dak has his flaws like any other player in the NFL. Especially a 2nd year player. He makes bad reads at times. Bad throws. My point is, most people are looking at Dak's flaws (which honestly I think are other reasons than football reasons) and not mention the defense. It's ridiculous. This game has always been a TEAM sport. I've played this sport for years. No emphasis was put on the Ravens QB when they won the Superbowl. It was because of their defense. Dak is 18-8 since coming into this league. There aren't many QBs that can say that. And his foot work is much better this year. Does he still make bad throws at times....sure he does. There are 10 year QBs that make bad throws. It happens. Does he miss open receivers? Sure. Every QB in the league misses open receivers. But to say he's a bad QB when we have a defense that plays like that tells me that people don't know the game and want Dak out because of other reasons.

What "other reasons" are you referring to?

 

[Ken]

It is amazing to me that Dak's struggles have become a Romo argument.

No one is a bigger Romo fan than me but the choice was obvious last year. His body just can't take the rigors of the nfl. That is why no one gave him a shot. That is why he is in the booth.

Let's please stop with the Romo cries..that ship has sailed.

 

[diefree666]

It is amazing to me that Dak's struggles have become a Romo argument.

No one is a bigger Romo fan than me but the choice was obvious last year. His body just can't take the rigors of the nfl. That is why no one gave him a shot. That is why he is in the booth.

Let's please stop with the Romo cries..that ship has sailed.

How do you know no one gave him a shot? ITs what you want to believe= does not make it so.

 

[Ken]

How do you know no one gave him a shot? ITs what you want to believe= does not make it so.

I know this because he was calling the game yesterday.

 

[DFWJC]

Romo never had a 3 game stretch like Dak just put up.........NEVER.

And Romo never elevated people around him? Well Larant Robinson is a millionaire today thanks to Romo so this is news to him.

Yeah, that post you replied to was outerworldly dumb on so many levels

 

[Silver N Blue]

Romo made everybody around him better, like Larant Robinson and Miles Austin who never did jack without Romo.

Dak doesn’t elevate our scrubs, he instead plays down to their level and ends up sucking himself.

And Romo puts up more than 6 points against a 4 win team............just saying

Romo was Zeke before Zeke. The one player defenses had to account and adjust for.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Romo made everybody around him better, like Larant Robinson and Miles Austin who never did jack without Romo.

Dak doesn’t elevate our scrubs, he instead plays down to their level and ends up sucking himself.

And Romo puts up more than 6 points against a 4 win team............just saying

The difference is Romo is retired and dak is not

 

[black label]

Well this is the problem. The team forced Romo out the door and Dak clearly isn't ready to put the team on his back.

I'll go to my grave believing we should have put Romo back in last year. He'd have performed at a high level last year and this year and Dak would have been able to sit and learn with a student of the game.

All those idiots who cheered Romo's benching are choking on crow this year. Unfortunately, no Cowboy fan is better off today.

I saw this tweet earlier.....ain't it the truth?

 

[JoeKing]

Very unfair analysis, this is only Dak's second season in the NFL, after Romo's second NFL season he hadn't done anything. You can't fairly compare 2 seasons of work with 14 season's of work.

 

[Lunzatis]

Romo made everybody around him better, like Larant Robinson and Miles Austin who never did jack without Romo.

Dak doesn’t elevate our scrubs, he instead plays down to their level and ends up sucking himself.

And Romo puts up more than 6 points against a 4 win team............just saying

I'm going to post this reply that I posted on a Youtube to people questioning Dak and his ability. I have edited it so that it would be appropriate to post here. This is the truth of the situation for the Dallas Cowboys and it goes FAR beyond Dak struggling and actually explains WHY Dak is struggling.

"Wow, I'm seeing a bunch of people who don't understand football that are saying Dak needs to go when they can't see the problems with the entire team. Crappy WR core except for Beasley & Witten and defenses have focused on taking Beasley away which only leaves Witten who is now forced to help block thanks to bad O-line play. Dez can't create seperation against average Dbs much less the elite ones and T Williams has to rely on bump coverage just to get down the field which means NO deep ball threat and that doesn't even take into consideration the drops from both Dez and T. Williams, some of which became interceptions. Average O-line that has been exposed since Week 2 and that was WITH Elliot. Crappy Defensive scheme that hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2007 and relies on the team to have a lead and an always healthy physical linebacker, which is an oxymoron in the Tampa 2 system (see Bob Sanders & Sean Lee). Crappy offensive play calling that is centered around Old Man Romo and is completely predictable, which opposing teams have constantly said, instead of changing the offensive playbook to take advantage of Dak's abilities. Crappy Head Coach who can't make adjustments in the game. Crappy training staff that continues to get players injured, and people wonder why DeMarcus Ware left and went to the Broncos.

But sure, let's blame the 2nd year Qb who hasn't been given the weapons or strategy needed to win. I'm seeing people making judgements based off emotion instead of logic. Anyone with actual football knowledge and understanding of football would tell people the same thing I just said. It took Tom Brady 3-4 years to develop into the QB he is and he actually had a genius as a head coach/gm that was smart enough to give Brady a great defense to work with while Brady developed. Dak doesn't have a great defense and he DEFINATELY doesn't have a genius for a head coach. Dak WOULD have a great pair of co-gms if Jerry would get out of the way and let Stephen Jones and Will McClay do their jobs. Jerry needs to stick to business, that's what he's good at and he needs to stay in his lane. Want proof? Jerry said after the first day of the 2016 draft that he should have paid more and gotten Paxton Lynch. Ask the Broncos how Paxton Lynch has turned out."


Jerry Jones also wanted Johnny Manziel and we all know that would have been a FUBAR situation.

Let's be honest here, Romo would have been knocked out for the season during the Bronco's game and most likely paralyzed after the last 3 games.

 

[sbark]

but gotta say at age "65" Phillip Rivers can still sling that sucker out there on a rope

 

[DallasEast]

They aren’t choking on the crow. They are doubling down and pretty much ignoring it. I would at least respect their take if they said Romo was done due to health while acknowledging Dak hasn’t been good for weeks.

It’s like the people who hated Romo for years think any criticism of Dak means they are praising Romo.

 

[sweetness0986]

Dak's a different type of QB than Tony Romo and we don't have the receivers that will complement Dak's strengths. Tony Romo was a gunslinger with one of the quickest releases the NFL has ever measured. Right up there with Dan Marino. Tony Romo was never afraid to throw the ball into tight windows. This got him into trouble at times but because of his anticipation and quick release, he was able to make some wide receivers look better than they were (Patrick Crayton, Miles Austin, Laurent Robinson, Dez Bryant).

Dak, on the other hand, is more like an athletic Joe Flacco. He needs to see his receiver open before he releases the ball. He is risk-averse to a fault in my opinion. The windows in the NFL are small and they don't stay open long as evidenced by a few of his interceptions to the sidelines where he threw the ball too late.

This was my main concern with Dak coming into this season. I knew for him to become a consistent top quarterback in this league, he would have to develop anticipation and be able to apply it when he is seeing multiple looks from a defense. As witnessed these last few games he is not there yet.

He can be a really good quarterback in Jason Garrett's basic offense as long as he has a dominant running game but on his own, until he learns to throw with anticipation and throw receivers open, He will be a train wreck.

If I were Jerry Jones, I would try to get Dak in an offensive system that has quicker outside receivers (like a Golden Tate or Emmanuel Sanders) and a system that can scheme receivers open. Without a running game, Dak is in the wrong system for his strengths.

This post may seem like I've given up on Dak but I haven't. He has a lot of great intangibles that you love from your quarterback. He is a natural born leader (you can clearly see how his teammates respect him). He is a stand-up guy He is a relentless worker and a super competitor. I mentioned this earlier this year when a Zeke suspension seemed imminent. These six games without Zeke will be a blessing in disguise. He will learn more about playing the position in these games than the other 27 games combined. How he responds to all the heat may very well determine if we have indeed found our franchise quarterback. Knowing what I know from Dak, I'm not betting against him.

Great write up and analysis. I’m not giving up on Dak yet. We were spoiled last season with a magical year. It’s naive to think our franchise QB just fell into our laps and we would ride off into the sunset with a Lombardi this year, especially with the decisions our FO has made. He was not billed as the second coming of Joe Montana in the draft for a reason - there are going to be growing pains. The positives are all those qualities you mentioned in the last paragraph above - those are things you cannot teach. No idea what will happen from here but I do think he deserves a chance to work through this.
And it’s not just him. Obviously this team needs A LOT of help right now on all fronts.

 

[diefree666]

I know this because he was calling the game yesterday.

that is about as dumb a post as there is possible to make

 

[diefree666]

I'm going to post this reply that I posted on a Youtube to people questioning Dak and his ability. I have edited it so that it would be appropriate to post here. This is the truth of the situation for the Dallas Cowboys and it goes FAR beyond Dak struggling and actually explains WHY Dak is struggling.

"Wow, I'm seeing a bunch of people who don't understand football that are saying Dak needs to go when they can't see the problems with the entire team. Crappy WR core except for Beasley & Witten and defenses have focused on taking Beasley away which only leaves Witten who is now forced to help block thanks to bad O-line play. Dez can't create seperation against average Dbs much less the elite ones and T Williams has to rely on bump coverage just to get down the field which means NO deep ball threat and that doesn't even take into consideration the drops from both Dez and T. Williams, some of which became interceptions. Average O-line that has been exposed since Week 2 and that was WITH Elliot. Crappy Defensive scheme that hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2007 and relies on the team to have a lead and an always healthy physical linebacker, which is an oxymoron in the Tampa 2 system (see Bob Sanders & Sean Lee). Crappy offensive play calling that is centered around Old Man Romo and is completely predictable, which opposing teams have constantly said, instead of changing the offensive playbook to take advantage of Dak's abilities. Crappy Head Coach who can't make adjustments in the game. Crappy training staff that continues to get players injured, and people wonder why DeMarcus Ware left and went to the Broncos.

But sure, let's blame the 2nd year Qb who hasn't been given the weapons or strategy needed to win. I'm seeing people making judgements based off emotion instead of logic. Anyone with actual football knowledge and understanding of football would tell people the same thing I just said. It took Tom Brady 3-4 years to develop into the QB he is and he actually had a genius as a head coach/gm that was smart enough to give Brady a great defense to work with while Brady developed. Dak doesn't have a great defense and he DEFINATELY doesn't have a genius for a head coach. Dak WOULD have a great pair of co-gms if Jerry would get out of the way and let Stephen Jones and Will McClay do their jobs. Jerry needs to stick to business, that's what he's good at and he needs to stay in his lane. Want proof? Jerry said after the first day of the 2016 draft that he should have paid more and gotten Paxton Lynch. Ask the Broncos how Paxton Lynch has turned out."


Jerry Jones also wanted Johnny Manziel and we all know that would have been a FUBAR situation.

Let's be honest here, Romo would have been knocked out for the season during the Bronco's game and most likely paralyzed after the last 3 games.

anyone who does not realize that Dak shares part of the blame is not worth listening to.

 

[JeffInDC]

Drew Brees is a great QB but his WR are wide open most of the time. He actually plays in a real system where they get their WR open. Dak ,on the hand plays, in JG's Tecmo Bowl offense.

Wanna know something even crazier? Well, I don’t know how accurate Pro Football Reference really is, but, they tell you the supposed offensive (and defensive) systems each team runs. According to them, both Dallas and NO run the Air Coryell system. Call me crazy, but, even when Romo was the QB, the offense NEVER looked as revolutionary or imaginative as the Saints did/does. No matter who Brees has to throw to, they ALWAYS seem to have guys running free.

 

[WarDaddy]

Interesting.

How many guys was Romo making better in the middle of his 2nd year?

I’m sure there were a couple of practice squad guys that developed for other teams or something...Romo in his second year was running scout team in practice and nowhere close to seeing the field.

Young QBs are supposed to struggle. It shouldn’t come as easy as it came last year for Dak. He didn’t have to learn how to play QB last year. This year he’s going through it.

There comes a time for every QB where you hit a stretch of ineffective play and you are challenged mentally. This is it for him. It has been a horrible 10 day stretch. He needs to bounce back for the sake of his career.