Difference between Dak and Romo

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Their offense looked like garbage in year 1 when Bledsoe was running it and half of Parcells former players were flying out to be with him on the sidelines because he couldn’t win until Romo saved the season..
We went 9-7

Romo lost to every good team we played(except Indy)

Remember him putting up 6 points on Christmas!

Romo was as shook in that playoff game as Dak has been the past 2 weeks.
 
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Or maybe the Eagle's front office giving wentz several weapons like Alshon Jeffries, Jay Ajayi, Bluont, and a solid defense actually has an effect on the quarterback. Oh wait, no wentz is doing it all by himself... maybe the Eagles also have a head coaching advantage as well.

Alshon hasn't done much until the past 3 games. I should know b/c I expected him to play well all season, thus I drafted him in fantasy. They just got Ajayi.. Guess what, Wentz has been doing this all year, not just excelling when they got Ajayi. Wentz was making Nelson Agholor look like a pro bowl wr.
 

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Don't misunderstand me....Dak has his flaws like any other player in the NFL. Especially a 2nd year player. He makes bad reads at times. Bad throws. My point is, most people are looking at Dak's flaws (which honestly I think are other reasons than football reasons) and not mention the defense. It's ridiculous. This game has always been a TEAM sport. I've played this sport for years. No emphasis was put on the Ravens QB when they won the Superbowl. It was because of their defense. Dak is 18-8 since coming into this league. There aren't many QBs that can say that. And his foot work is much better this year. Does he still make bad throws at times....sure he does. There are 10 year QBs that make bad throws. It happens. Does he miss open receivers? Sure. Every QB in the league misses open receivers. But to say he's a bad QB when we have a defense that plays like that tells me that people don't know the game and want Dak out because of other reasons.

What "other reasons" are you insinuating?
 

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We went 9-7

Romo lost to every good team we played
I'm sure you meant the team lost with Romo at QB some of those game. Right?
Nobody...hopefully...is that dense.

Same applies to Dak. Team game and the QB can only control part of one side of the ball.
 
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Still way better than Bledsoe..

And we lost because our defense and Bradie James couldn’t stop a basic screen pass..

Bradie is the reason Romo looked terrified out in Seattle?

6 points on Carrie Underwood day?

But he lit up that sorry *** Tampa defense!
 

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I'm sure you meant the team lost with Romo at QB some of those game. Right?
Nobody...hopefully...is that dense.

Same applies to Dak. Team game and the QB only control part of one side of the ball.
I'm giving it back the way they dish it.
 

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Wanna know something even crazier? Well, I don’t know how accurate Pro Football Reference really is, but, they tell you the supposed offensive (and defensive) systems each team runs. According to them, both Dallas and NO run the Air Coryell system. Call me crazy, but, even when Romo was the QB, the offense NEVER looked as revolutionary or imaginative as the Saints did/does. No matter who Brees has to throw to, they ALWAYS seem to have guys running free.

Unless NO changed their offense recently, Payton is a west-coast guy.
 

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Bradie is the reason Romo looked terrified out in Seattle?

6 points on Carrie Underwood day?

But he lit up that sorry *** Tampa defense!

Terrified out in Seattle when the game plan was extremely conservative and Parcells didn’t want to attack the Seattle CBs off the street and had Julius Jones rush 22 times?

You do realize that was the year the myth about Romo not being good in December was born..
 

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This isn't true. You see Drew with amazing ball placement most of the time and when you do see a WR open that's because Drew saw it too and hit the wr.

We have guys open every game that Dak misses whereas a Romo or Brees wouldn't.

Do you think Romo misses a WIDE open Witten for a td yesterday? Do you think he misses his hot route in Beasley on a blitz last weekend?

Did you see the one good back shoulder throw that Dak made and it was easily brought in by Dez for 18 (btw at the time it was our longest play from scrimmage and left Romo gushing)? For Dak a back shoulder throw is a struggle (See the Philly game where he had Dez for an easy td). For an elite qb it has to be a throw they can make in their sleep.

Also I've seen quite a few people say Romo had as good an offensive line as we've sported the last two years. Holy Hell people are fine making up their own realities. It simply isn't true. Romo inherited some pro bowl in name only offensive talent and even those guys quickly disappeared and were replaced by the Phil Costas of the world. Dak has played with, at a minimum, 3 of the best offensive linemen if not the best offensive linemen at their respective positions for the entirety of his short career.

He doesn't help set the protections and he very rarely audibles into advantageous looks when faced with a defensive call that neutralizes the offensive call. At times it didn't matter because of an overwhelming talent advantage. Now it matters because that margin, as it always happens, erodes quickly.

What we're seeing is a 4th round qb playing like a 4th round qb when literally everything isn't a simple hand off or pitch and catch.

The book on Dak isn't written just yet but man this is a sad chapter.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I've watched Saints games regularly for past 3 seasons because I have Brees as my FF QB. The amount of separation between NO receivers vs Cowboys receivers are night and day.
 

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You have no clue what you're talking about. I've watched Saints games regularly for past 3 seasons because I have Brees as my FF QB. The amount of separation between NO receivers vs Cowboys receivers are night and day.

Sean Payton loves drag routes and attacking the seams..
 

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Terrified out in Seattle when the game plan was extremely conservative and Parcells didn’t want to attack the Seattle CBs off the street and had Julius Jones rush 22 times?

You do realize that was the year the myth about Romo not being good in December was born..

He was scared
 

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Alshon hasn't done much until the past 3 games. I should know b/c I expected him to play well all season, thus I drafted him in fantasy. They just got Ajayi.. Guess what, Wentz has been doing this all year, not just excelling when they got Ajayi. Wentz was making Nelson Agholor look like a pro bowl wr.



Shhh!!! The narrative would have you think Wentz has been playing with Barry Sanders, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez..
 

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He was scared

Nonsense.. Parcells has always been extremely controlling over the game plan and not taking risks.. the whole narrative during that year particularly in December was to control Romo’s risk taking and ‘penchant’ for TOs

That’s why the very next year, Romo was shattering passing records without a decent OL and no real explosive running game..
 

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You are absolutely blind if you’re trying to say Dak has a good arm. The next time he drives a ball will be the first.

And no, tight windows don’t need zip. Drew Brees would have retired years ago if you did.
How many tight windows did Rivers hit? None he didn't have to, his WRs were wide open and had plenty of separation. That's one thing that Dak doesn't have. Romo had some pretty good receivers in his career including a young Witten and a young Dez. Witten is old and slow, Dez fell off the cliff for whatever reason.
 

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THANK YOU! So tired of these Romosexuals leaving out the fact that Romo was groomed for 3 seasons before getting his start.

It’s waaay too early to be giving up on Dak.


I remember watching Romo in pre season before he was a starter and he was always the gunslinger we know and love. That (probably) was one of the reasons Parcells didn't start him earlier. Romo always had a good arm and mechanics. You could just see it. Go look at those early years and compare him to Dak..it's night and day. The reason Romo didn't start early on was because Parcells was conservative . You guys are acting as if Romo was a one read (Dak, RG3) type of player and that's just not true...
 

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People acting like Romo all of a sudden became a piece of fine China. Those hits he took break bones, just happened to Rodgers, Derek Carr, Romo wasn’t special in that regard, he just got hit more often than most.

People are forgetting he rolled out against the Eagles last season and moved the ball as if he was playing in his backyard? Dude still had it, still wanted to play, and we went with fools gold
 

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How many tight windows did Rivers hit? None he didn't have to, his WRs were wide open and had plenty of separation. That's one thing that Dak doesn't have. Romo had some pretty good receivers in his career including a young Witten and a young Dez. Witten is old and slow, Dez fell off the cliff for whatever reason.

In the game book on NFL.com they have nextgen stats. One of them is average separation of the WRs on completions. You might want to check it out: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2017112301/2017/REG12/Chargers@Cowboys?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2017112301#menu=gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000882073&tab=ngs

For the Chargers Allen was targeted 14 times and had 11 catches, his average separation was 2.17 yards. That is well below the NFL average of 2.74 yards. For the Cowboys TWill was targeted 5 times with 4 catches, his separation was 3.41 yards. Overall the Chargers had no more separation than our WRs on completions.

Edit: And they have those stats for every game. So I also know that Alshon Jeffrey for the Eagles was targeted 7 times and had 4 catches vs us. On those catches he averaged a whopping 1.88 yards of separation.

NFL QBs make tight throws, a LOT. They complete them a lot. And there is frequently very little separation. That's pretty much what it means to throw a receiver open.
 
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