Difference between Dak and Romo

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For all of the time that I spent on this board, I have honestly never seen anyone say that Dak was better than Brady. Not even the biggest of Dak supporters have said such a thing. Romo had been compared to Brady and other top tier QB's for better or worse.
fwiw, I think they said he was better than Brady at this stage in his career.
 

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fwiw, I think they said he was better than Brady at this stage in his career.

The post I quoted made it sound like everyone was declaring that Dak was better than present day Brady is. Which is far from true if that is what the post claims.
 

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Well, people post stupid things.
Better than Brady? Now you’re making it up. Not even Skip Bayless has ever proposed that idea.

Wow you must have not read some of the posts on year during the offseason. They were sayin as of Right now Dak is better than brady. I literally had to laugh out loud. But forget that but everyone ( mostly everyone) who responded to it by saying maybe not as good as Brady yet but easily No doubt top 5 QB. I just shook my head. Thats how many many people on here felt. Now those same people are now saying well its impossible to judge Dak after only hos 2nd year in the league. They mostly ( not all) have said that. So I rest my case
 

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If I was brand new to football I would swear Romo won at least 3 Superbowls for the Cowboys. He hasn't even taken us to the Superbowl. Even more....he hasn't even taken us to the NFC Championship Game. Yet, he's some of y'alls savior. Lol...yall crack me up.

Really like Tony, and how he made us look better than we were with some of his Houdini like escapes. He also ended some games with Ints that a lot have forgotten about. That said in the end we didn't get to the promised land due to many factors besides him, so I for one won't anoint him as a savior
 

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Really like Tony, and how he made us look better than we were with some of his Houdini like escapes. He also ended some games with Ints that a lot have forgotten about. That said in the end we didn't get to the promised land due to many factors besides him, so I for one won't anoint him as a savior

The one thing that Romo did do (through no fault of his own) was help Garrett stay coach longer for the Cowboys than he should have been allowed to be. Garrett would have back to back losing seasons if Romo wasn't the starter.
 

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I'm not here to bash Dak. He's had an historically rough stretch, but I don't have huge doubts about him being able to rally from it.

Regarding Romo. Well, I think maybe this should help some of his detractors better understand what some of us where saying about him before--that he was making the coaching staff and many around him look better than they were.
Not that he didn't have some bad games, or least truly awful quarters. But overall, through the course of his career, he was very, very good.
And most importantly--he was WAY good enough to lead an all around team to a Super Bowl win.
They had a couple of teams that if it all lined up, maybe they could pull it off. But for the most part, they did not.
You usually need several teams that are top 5 caliber--then eventually one gets hot and wins it all. having one maybe good enough every 5 years makes it almost impossible.
Even Brees and Rodgers only have one.
Now that Brees has a legit D to go with what he can control on his side of the ball...he at least has fighting chance for a 2nd. That's all you can ask.

I do wonder what may have been in 2014. So so close...and that team went almost the whole year without Sean Lee.
It took the first QB in the NFL history to lead the league in QB rating in both the regular and post season to get them in striking range.
Still didn't get it done....
 

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I'd just assume a team with a hall of fame qb who has wrs open on every play would be able to muster a winning record.

Pardon me.

Yeh because great QB and open receivers are all that's needed to win games. Why that Romo and T.O. should have won multiple SBs. I guess they didn't get the memo. :facepalm:
 

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Romo made everybody around him better, like Larant Robinson and Miles Austin who never did jack without Romo.

Dak doesn’t elevate our scrubs, he instead plays down to their level and ends up sucking himself.

And Romo puts up more than 6 points against a 4 win team............just saying
Romo could ignore the coaches because he was a veteran with a big contract. Dak can't do that yet.
 

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Romo never had a 3 game stretch like Dak just put up.........NEVER.

And Romo never elevated people around him? Well Larant Robinson is a millionaire today thanks to Romo so this is news to him.


My point was to not to compare Dak to Romo. I didnt say Dak is better or not as good as Romo was.

That Romo dindnt elevate People around him is what i came to because i watched every game of his carreer.
If you think else because of one player who played with him for 1 year of his career its ok with me but it doesnt prove alot to me. If you have no other arguments i'll stick to my opinion.

Romo had for example WRs like Patrick Crayton, Kevin Ogletree, Sam Hurd, Dwayne Harris, Roy Williams or Tight Ends like Martellus Bennett he played with.

If you want to say that it wasn't Laurents talent and the players around him that made him better. But it was only thru Romo then why had Romo so many other WRs and TEs who didnt flourish with him ?
A good example is Roy Williams. A player who was good in Detroit but fell off under Romo.
Cole Beasley had his best season not with Romo but with Dak Prescott. So that could be an argument that not Romo elevated players around him but Dak does.
Martellus Bennett florished after leaving Dallas.
Given Laurent had the best season of his career with Romo but so did Dwayne Harris after leaving DC to the NYfG. So did Eli elevate his play but Romo couldnt ?

So for every Laurent there are 5 other players who i could say they "suffered" from being paired with Romo.

And remember: When Laurent was here he was surrounded by players like: Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Jason Witten, Miles Austin and Martellus Bennett.
 
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Romo could ignore the coaches because he was a veteran with a big contract. Dak can't do that yet.
LOL @ ignore the coaches. You're right he just made up plays not installed in practice.

The fact is Dak can't read a defense pre snap so giving him freedom to make drastic changes at the line is meaningless.

And then when you have the perfect play that gets your hall of fame TE who runs a 5.6 forty wide open instead of hitting him you go to your safety blanket Beasley and throw a pick six. That's a 14 point swing that has nothing to do with coaching or ignoring of said coaching.

That's what the Dak apologists continue to ignore. The dude had a 46.3 qb rating when he faced no pressure.
 

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I'm not here to bash Dak. He's had an historically rough stretch, but I don't have huge doubts about him being able to rally from it.

Regarding Romo. Well, I think maybe this should help some of his detractors better understand what some of us where saying about him before--that he was making the coaching staff and many around him look better than they were.
Not that he didn't have some bad games, or least truly awful quarters. But overall, through the course of his career, he was very, very good.
And most importantly--he was WAY good enough to lead an all around team to a Super Bowl win.
They had a couple of teams that if it all lined up, maybe they could pull it off. But for the most part, they did not.
You usually need several teams that are top 5 caliber--then eventually one gets hot and wins it all. having one maybe good enough every 5 years makes it almost impossible.
Even Brees and Rodgers only have one.
Now that Brees has a legit D to go with what he can control on his side of the ball...he at least has fighting chance for a 2nd. That's all you can ask.

I do wonder what may have been in 2014. So so close...and that team went almost the whole year without Sean Lee.
It took the first QB in the NFL history to lead the league in QB rating in both the regular and post season to get them in striking range.
Still didn't get it done....


Couldn’t have said it better :clap:
 

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My point was to not to compare Dak to Romo. I didnt say Dak is better or not as good as Romo was.

That Romo dindnt elevate People around him is what i came to because i watched every game of his carreer.
If you think else because of one player who played with him for 1 year of his career its ok with me but it doesnt prove alot to me. If you have no other arguments i'll stick to my opinion.

Romo had for example WRs like Patrick Crayton, Kevin Ogletree, Sam Hurd, Dwayne Harris, Roy Williams or Tight Ends like Martellus Bennett he played with.

If you want to say that it wasn't Laurents talent and the players around him that made him better. But it was only thru Romo then why had Romo so many other WRs and TEs who didnt flourish with him ?
A good example is Roy Williams. A player who was good in Detroit but fell off under Romo.
Cole Beasley had his best season not with Romo but with Dak Prescott. So that could be an argument that not Romo elevated players around him but Dak does.
Martellus Bennett florished after leaving Dallas.
Given Laurent had the best season of his career with Romo but so did Dwayne Harris after leaving DC to the NYfG. So did Eli elevate his play but Romo couldnt ?

So for every Laurent there are 5 other players who i could say they "suffered" from being paired with Romo.

And remember: When Laurent was here he was surrounded by players like: Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Jason Witten, Miles Austin and Martellus Bennett.

What are you trying to say? Please just be blunt
 

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My point was to not to compare Dak to Romo. I didnt say Dak is better or not as good as Romo was.

That Romo dindnt elevate People around him is what i came to because i watched every game of his carreer.
If you think else because of one player who played with him for 1 year of his career its ok with me but it doesnt prove alot to me. If you have no other arguments i'll stick to my opinion.

Romo had for example WRs like Patrick Crayton, Kevin Ogletree, Sam Hurd, Dwayne Harris, Roy Williams or Tight Ends like Martellus Bennett he played with.

If you want to say that it wasn't Laurents talent and the players around him that made him better. But it was only thru Romo then why had Romo so many other WRs and TEs who didnt flourish with him ?
A good example is Roy Williams. A player who was good in Detroit but fell off under Romo.
Cole Beasley had his best season not with Romo but with Dak Prescott. So that could be an argument that not Romo elevated players around him but Dak does.
Martellus Bennett florished after leaving Dallas.
Given Laurent had the best season of his career with Romo but so did Dwayne Harris after leaving DC to the NYfG. So did Eli elevate his play but Romo couldnt ?

So for every Laurent there are 5 other players who i could say they "suffered" from being paired with Romo.

And remember: When Laurent was here he was surrounded by players like: Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Jason Witten, Miles Austin and Martellus Bennett.


I don’t want to sound to offensive but that “quote” is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read on this board and there are plenty to choose from.
 

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Don't misunderstand me....Dak has his flaws like any other player in the NFL. Especially a 2nd year player. He makes bad reads at times. Bad throws. My point is, most people are looking at Dak's flaws (which honestly I think are other reasons than football reasons) and not mention the defense. It's ridiculous. This game has always been a TEAM sport. I've played this sport for years. No emphasis was put on the Ravens QB when they won the Superbowl. It was because of their defense. Dak is 18-8 since coming into this league. There aren't many QBs that can say that. And his foot work is much better this year. Does he still make bad throws at times....sure he does. There are 10 year QBs that make bad throws. It happens. Does he miss open receivers? Sure. Every QB in the league misses open receivers. But to say he's a bad QB when we have a defense that plays like that tells me that people don't know the game and want Dak out because of other reasons.

I also wonder that maybe since there is now more game film on Dak, teams can prepare better for his weaknesses.
 
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