Difference between Washington and Dallas

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I think I answered you before but here goes…
I said Jaylen Daniels has the same number of playoff wins than Dak.
However, you seem to want to bring SB winners into the equation. So here is my answer
No they are not better than Jim Kelly… just getting to a SB is hard enough, doing it 4 years in a row is exceptional.

Is that good enough for you or are you going to deviate again from my original statement?


Well I think Dilfer and Foles should be considered better than Kelly because they WON the Superbowl.

Kelly had 4 tries and COULD NOT win one like Dilfer and Foles. The goal is to get to the Superbowl and WIN IT, not just GET to a Superbowl.

And you actually never answered the question I originally asked you.

I specifically said.... is Dilfer and Foles a better quarterback than Kelly because they did what Kelly couldn't do.... and that's WIN a Superbowl. I never asked anything about REACHING a Superbowl.
 

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I’m reading some of these posts and I wonder if some of you get it.

1) Daniels has more playoff wins than Dak and is going to his 1st championship game, Dak will never see one.
2) the Washington culture has players that will run through walls for their team and coach. That gets results… someone asked Demarcus Lawrence if he’s coming back… the answer was if they pay me!…
3) DQ has done more in 1 year at the helm of the commanders than the cowboys in the last 30 and counting
4) do any of you think the next HC is going to straighten the ship
5) Jerry is the problem… period he does not care win or lose… but hey keep going to the games, buying the merch and keep the cowboys number 1 on Forbes….
That’s all he cares about…

You want change? You want the cowboys to be relevant again?

Then remain fans from a distance, stop buying merchandise, watching or attending games… when the numbers go down and they will…
JJ will move mountains to get them back there…

Or do nothing and continue to share your views and opinions, knowing full well nothing will change and it will be the same year in and year out.
Oh and those of you hoping Jerry dies things will change… Stephen is worse…
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Cost of free agency broke up the original dynasty of Jerry Jones.

He has built up a group of budget supportive and top shelf talents. Team fiber can continue growing now as well. That has nothing to do with who makes the decision for structure of standards, but injuries and team growth as team. There is team growth affects that are involved also. Jerry is being used as a whipping boy.

The man is actually very informed and smart as well. He is not an ignorant owner or naive as to sport.
You are 100% correct he is very smart and very well informed

His his priorities as a billionaire are just far different than ours are as everyday fans.

We want the Cowboys to bring us Super bowls and that's all we don't care if they're profitable or not we just want that trophy with Lombardi's name on it

To Jerry the Cowboys are his business as well as his hobby and his toy Jerry has Lombardi's he wants the Cowboys to make him money and has them set up to do that and they are the class of the industry in that area.

Fans can't seem to understand that some shiny trophy with an old coach's name on it that Jerry has three of already mean nothing to him compared to the generational wealth he is compiling.

When fans are capable of comprehending that they will understand why we will never win a Super bowl with Jerry or the Jones family in charge
 

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Well I think Dilfer and Foles should be considered better than Kelly because they WON the Superbowl.

Kelly had 4 tries and COULD NOT win one like Dilfer and Foles. The goal is to get to the Superbowl and WIN IT, not just GET to a Superbowl.

And you actually never answered the question I originally asked you.

I specifically said.... is Dilfer and Foles a better quarterback than Kelly because they did what Kelly couldn't do.... and that's WIN a Superbowl. I never asked anything about REACHING a Superbowl.
You know that’s your opinion.
Then by your logic, some truly great qb’s that never one a SB are worse than Dilfer or Foles?

You do realize football is the ultimate TEAM sport?
Or maybe that escapes you since getting back to my original statements which compared Daniels playoff wins to Dak.

I think I’ve answered your question now if you cannot understand, then go get some meds. Or as your name implies, maybe stay off the stuff and you might think more clearly.
 

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I’m reading some of these posts and I wonder if some of you get it.

1) Daniels has more playoff wins than Dak and is going to his 1st championship game, Dak will never see one.
2) the Washington culture has players that will run through walls for their team and coach. That gets results… someone asked Demarcus Lawrence if he’s coming back… the answer was if they pay me!…
3) DQ has done more in 1 year at the helm of the commanders than the cowboys in the last 30 and counting
4) do any of you think the next HC is going to straighten the ship
5) Jerry is the problem… period he does not care win or lose… but hey keep going to the games, buying the merch and keep the cowboys number 1 on Forbes….
That’s all he cares about…

You want change? You want the cowboys to be relevant again?

Then remain fans from a distance, stop buying merchandise, watching or attending games… when the numbers go down and they will…
JJ will move mountains to get them back there…

Or do nothing and continue to share your views and opinions, knowing full well nothing will change and it will be the same year in and year out.
Oh and those of you hoping Jerry dies things will change… Stephen is worse…
So Quinn hasn't even dealt with a contract situation with a vet like DLaw --- but he's superior?

Seriously man, garbage take. Take a bit of time to sit on the bench and observe.
 

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yeah there is a difference between Us and Washington, we are legendary.

Washington has now cycled back up at least for this year.
Any other differences exist only in your mind.

I will admit this though, I have always been more concerned with them than I have ever been with the eagles or giants.

I am 60yrs old and have been a Cowboys fan all my life and the Commanders has always been more of a threat when they are good than the eagles have. Our games with them are legendary
 

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People in here really trying to pretend like the commanders who hadn’t been in an nfc champ game for 33 years - make it the very first year they change ownership - are acting like that isn’t the main reason for their success. You people really are stupid
EXACTLY. Jerry would have tried to trade up for Caleb Williams....and when that failed....he would have traded out of the #2 slot because he thought it should be Caleb or nobody.

It's like people have not been watching the past 30 years. Don't let those 3 Super Bowls fool you....that was Jimmy. The last 30 years are Jerry. Jerry has not won ANYTHING. He is averaging one playoff win every 6 years. Jimmy made it look so easy that Jerry thought 500 different head coaches could do that. How do I know? He said it out of his mouth. We are doomed. There is no way someone 82 is going to get better at a job when we have 30 years of him proving he has never been good at his job to begin with!!!
 

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The QB position is the most important position on the field and our bozo GM keeps insisting on never drafting a top QB. Last time we drafted a QB 1st round was Aikman. Dak is what he is, and he's gonna be even worse this upcoming season after another season ending injury. Once we decide to invest into a top QB that is actually mobile and accurate maybe we can go on a playoff run. Until then, sit back and enjoy mediocre play from the highest paid QB in the league.
 

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Well I think Dilfer and Foles should be considered better than Kelly because they WON the Superbowl.

Kelly had 4 tries and COULD NOT win one like Dilfer and Foles. The goal is to get to the Superbowl and WIN IT, not just GET to a Superbowl.

And you actually never answered the question I originally asked you.

I specifically said.... is Dilfer and Foles a better quarterback than Kelly because they did what Kelly couldn't do.... and that's WIN a Superbowl. I never asked anything about REACHING a Superbowl.
It's because Dilfer and Foles were on miniscule Cap% Hit freeing up resources to the reset of the roster. What you cant have is a veteran QB, on massively high CAP Hit, who needs a full supporting roster (both sides of the ball).
 

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Jerry is currently on a mission to find his next yes man, and even if he wasn't I bet he has no idea what went on in Washingtons playoff game. He is involved in making Dallas what HE wants it to be doing things HIS way. Free agency is a perfect example of this, the two clowns running the team are out on their yacht while the rest of the league is trying to make their teams better.
He's currently on a mission to find someone willing to mentor Jason Witten, apparently. He needs a Wade Phillips type coach.
 

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No particular order

Allen
Jackson
Mahomes
Stroud
Stafford
Daniels
Nix
Goff
Burrow
Herbert

And i could argue Young will be in there next year …. who in that list are you taking Dak over ?

He makes more than all
of them and isn’t as good as any of them. I get it Dak is an idol to some of you but it’s been 9 years …
You don't acknowledge the put down is your making and I explained some of the performance can be used to improve performances. You made a list and haven't shown how performance has compared beyond leaving out an injury marred season.

When an aspect is presented to show what is possible and loyalty aspects of the Dallas Cowboys franchise...people like you pick a non-mentioned side and start stereotyping and come with an insult.

I don't give a gosh damn if you like me or not. Don't just give a list with no specifics beyond one's own attitude and then not based on the football offered start insult.

Myself, I have posted lists of prospects and cap room is a major consideration for current team decisions...not your insults.

You stance was you felt that there are a lot of players were better. You proved nothing there and his place with the Cowboys is always relevant until staff change direction is formed.

You aren't required to like what has happened, but take your insult and shove it. I could care less.
 

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There is no difference, we almost beat them twice. That's without dak too. They had fluke year. I'm not buying it
 

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yeah there is a difference between Us and Washington, we are legendary.

Washington has now cycled back up at least for this year.
Any other differences exist only in your mind.

I will admit this though, I have always been more concerned with them than I have ever been with the eagles or giants.

I am 60yrs old and have been a Cowboys fan all my life and the Commanders has always been more of a threat when they are good than the eagles have. Our games with them are legendary
I'm 75...lol. We are still waiting on the coaching staff. When the entire NFC East is tough, the Cowboys perk up and play better ball.



CeeDee Lamb is still the only wide receiver on the roster since the trade that defenses have any respect for. Lamb is constantly double-teamed, and it has a ripple effect on the rest of the offense. After three seasons of ranking in the top ten of nearly every offensive category, the Cowboys dipped to 21st in points per game (20.6) and 16th in total yards per game (328.4).

https://insidethestar.com/mccarthys-firing-shows-just-how-much-the-cowboys-offense-needs-help
 
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That means the draft is our best option for the team to improve, and offense needs to be addressed with the first three picks. There are many explosive draft prospects expected to go in the top three rounds. Here are my favorites:

  • RB Ashton Jeanty, Boise State
  • RB Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
  • RB Cam Skattebo, Arizona State
  • RB Dylan Sampson, Tennessee
  • WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
  • WR Luther Burden III, Missouri
  • WR Emeka Egbuka, Ohio State
  • WR Savion Williams, TCU
  • WR Isaiah Bond, Texas
https://insidethestar.com/mccarthys-firing-shows-just-how-much-the-cowboys-offense-needs-help
 

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This isn’t the first time that Washington has shown Dallas where a change was needed and did it…
They changed coaches back when Joe Gibbs’s was installed and they became a powerhouse in the 1980’s, while Dallas stayed with Tom Landry whose best days were behind him.
And now they’ve changed ownership and the new regime has reinvigorated a franchise that was seemingly beyond saving.

Sadly, we all know that the main reason why the Cowboys are currently a joke and have almost zero chance of getting to a Super Bowl, has no intention of going anywhere.
 

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No particular order

Allen
Jackson
Mahomes
Stroud
Stafford
Daniels
Nix
Goff
Burrow
Herbert

And i could argue Young will be in there next year …. who in that list are you taking Dak over ?

He makes more than all
of them and isn’t as good as any of them. I get it Dak is an idol to some of you but it’s been 9 years …
....I'd say it's been 30 years.....let's count all the years.
 

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This isn’t the first time that Washington has shown Dallas where a change was needed and did it…
They changed coaches back when Joe Gibbs’s was installed and they became a powerhouse in the 1980’s, while Dallas stayed with Tom Landry whose best days were behind him.
And now they’ve changed ownership and the new regime has reinvigorated a franchise that was seemingly beyond saving.

Sadly, we all know that the main reason why the Cowboys are currently a joke and have almost zero chance of getting to a Super Bowl, has no intention of going anywhere.
Here are the Cowboys’ offensive ranks each season with Kellen Moore as offensive coordinator and Dak Prescott under center: (ranks based on total offensive yardage)

  • 2019 (1st)
  • 2020 (14th) **Prescott missed 11 games with injury**
  • 2021 (1st)
  • 2022 (11th) **Prescott missed 5 games with injury**
With a healthy Dak Prescott, Moore’s offenses ranked #1. Now let’s look at Prescott’s ranks in yardage per game under Moore, and the past two seasons under McCarthy:

  • 2019: 306.4 (3rd)
  • 2020: 371.2 (1st) **5 games**
  • 2021: 278.1 (7th)
  • 2022: 238.3 (13th)
  • 2023: 265.6 (5th)
  • 2024: 247.3 (9th) **8 games**
https://insidethestar.com/getting-o...dates-benefit-cowboys-star-players-on-offense

Now step on up and claim that is all gooblie gook by Jerry Jones and not center of reason for a new staff. :popcorn:
 

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Matthew Golden WR (Texas)​


Golden stands at 6 ft tall and weighs 195 pounds and runs a 4.38 forty.

NFL offenses will find a significant deep threat in Matthew Golden, who brings more than just speed to the field.

His strong route-running and ability to create separation at all levels make him a versatile asset for offensive coordinators.

Golden excels on the outside, where his vertical speed and sharp breaks challenge defensive backs.

This player if taken with a trade down or later would mix with Lamb and give Prescott much sexier targets to throw to.


Say in the second round, after a running back in 1.
 

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Here are the Cowboys’ offensive ranks each season with Kellen Moore as offensive coordinator and Dak Prescott under center: (ranks based on total offensive yardage)

  • 2019 (1st)
  • 2020 (14th) **Prescott missed 11 games with injury**
  • 2021 (1st)
  • 2022 (11th) **Prescott missed 5 games with injury**
With a healthy Dak Prescott, Moore’s offenses ranked #1. Now let’s look at Prescott’s ranks in yardage per game under Moore, and the past two seasons under McCarthy:

  • 2019: 306.4 (3rd)
  • 2020: 371.2 (1st) **5 games**
  • 2021: 278.1 (7th)
  • 2022: 238.3 (13th)
  • 2023: 265.6 (5th)
  • 2024: 247.3 (9th) **8 games**
https://insidethestar.com/getting-o...dates-benefit-cowboys-star-players-on-offense

Now step on up and claim that is all gooblie gook by Jerry Jones and not center of reason for a new staff. :popcorn:
Nobody on here would argue that the Cowboys are good at beating up average to poor teams…
Now show me our playoff records for those years…
Dak is a very good QB, but he’s not a QB that’s going to win games for you in the playoffs… he’s been horrible the previous 3 years when it mattered.
 
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