Difference between Washington and Dallas

[Hadenough]

You guys are putting way too much thought into this. The main reason the Commanders are where their at is Jayden Daniels. He has won so many close games that they are believing in him. He is one of those rare clutch players. You put Dak on that team and I'm not sure their in the playoffs. Stop acting like Quinn and New ownership are the main reason. Yeah they selected Daniels but they haven't done anything that any other franchise hasn't been trying to do. DANIELS IS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think the optimist view is the next few years (while we are stuck with Dak and he gets even worse and more broken down than he is now) are going to be UGLY. The division and conference are so much better than they were during the years where our 12-5 records were basically fraudulent. But the writing is on the wall and Dak will be out of the league or a backup in 3-4 years. Jerry could also die or become completely incapacitated during that time. That's 2 massive positive things that could happen....but it's going to be dark days until then.

I can't believe you said death of someone is a positive thing!!!! this is a game. entertainment. its not life and death. as much as I don't like jerry, I don't wish him or want him to die.
people sometimes cross the line of life with entertainment...you are unhappy with cowboys, go watch something else.
relax.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I stand corrected Dak has 2 playoff wins…
Whoopdeedoo and all the QB’s you mentioned have been to championship game…

Which if you bothered reading my post, Dak will never be in one… but hey he was runner up mvp.

ok. dak sucks.

now what?

can you let jerry know to draft a "Daniels" for us. since Dak is the problem and Jerry is not.

 

[CCBoy]

Woooo hoo!!!!

Explain how a linebacker takes on a much larger offensive tackle and beats him. Don't mention out run by him on a head on block straight on him. Show some real knowledge and not just attitude. Alright, pull out a joint and start bragging with internet insults: 'what are you talking about?' Quick, invest in make believe money.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Well I think Dilfer and Foles should be considered better than Kelly because they WON the Superbowl.

Kelly had 4 tries and COULD NOT win one like Dilfer and Foles. The goal is to get to the Superbowl and WIN IT, not just GET to a Superbowl.

And you actually never answered the question I originally asked you.

I specifically said.... is Dilfer and Foles a better quarterback than Kelly because they did what Kelly couldn't do.... and that's WIN a Superbowl. I never asked anything about REACHING a Superbowl.

the question is would they even be in the superbowl if not for Kelly? Dilfer and Foles rode coat tails of others and were beneficiaries. no one will ever consider them for HOF, yet Kelly got in.

with that said, one should ask, if you had to build a team, lets say they were all in their prime and lets say kelly having lost two, but foles and dilfer having rings. who would you pick as the QB of your team?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Biggest difference is the commanders are not paying 50+ million a year for a player. They have 8 players with a cap hit 10+ million with 87 million left to spend where dallas has 6 players with a 10+ cap hit and are over the cap (according to otc). The commanders have a window to build around their cheap QB now where the window for dallas has closed.

eagles have a 50M+ QB, in fact their top 5 contracts average is about 170M. hmmmm

so by your logic, in three years, they should just dump daniels because he will be demanding about 65-70M (assuming salaries keep going up about same rate). because they won't be able to win again.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Op.."The Problem is the Fans"..jesus...The problem is the owner not one fan made one move for this franchise the last 30 years and again the owner will do dumb stuff like hire Brian Shott as the head coach because he is no threat to the owners power and center of attention he needs..the fans are not the problem...The HC, QB, down to the waterboy on this team are all from the owner..follow you own advice and get it straight..and to all of you thinking "We can hit the Jones in thier pocket book thats the way!" no man that bank is sealed they will never hurt for money unless they do something really dumb outside of football...again get a clue...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You guys are putting way too much thought into this. The main reason the Commanders are where their at is Jayden Daniels. He has won so many close games that they are believing in him. He is one of those rare clutch players. You put Dak on that team and I'm not sure their in the playoffs. Stop acting like Quinn and New ownership are the main reason. Yeah they selected Daniels but they haven't done anything that any other franchise hasn't been trying to do. DANIELS IS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!

what you miss is that the cultural change and change in management philosophy allowed coaches, GM to put together a team and focus the organizaiton on football. having lived in DC area for a while, that organization under snyder was toxic, filled with internal politics and lacked focus on football. I have first hand experienced the difference between a focused, organization and a toxic work environment when nobody was focused on success, except individual achievements. one company grew, the other went bankrupt and was sold for peanuts.

so by the same token put daniels on this year's cowboys team and I still don't think we make the playoffs. do you? would he be able to put cowboys in NFCCG?

Did daniels have a big part in their success? yes, but he is not the only reason.

 

[patrick0215]

You a flunkie grade hold over, who thinks other kids are afraid of 'bad ***' sounding talk?

I have no idea of what you just said

 

[rambo2]

I’m reading some of these posts and I wonder if some of you get it.

1) Daniels has more playoff wins than Dak and is going to his 1st championship game, Dak will never see one.
2) the Washington culture has players that will run through walls for their team and coach. That gets results… someone asked Demarcus Lawrence if he’s coming back… the answer was if they pay me!…
3) DQ has done more in 1 year at the helm of the commanders than the cowboys in the last 30 and counting
4) do any of you think the next HC is going to straighten the ship
5) Jerry is the problem… period he does not care win or lose… but hey keep going to the games, buying the merch and keep the cowboys number 1 on Forbes….
That’s all he cares about…

You want change? You want the cowboys to be relevant again?

Then remain fans from a distance, stop buying merchandise, watching or attending games… when the numbers go down and they will…
JJ will move mountains to get them back there…

Or do nothing and continue to share your views and opinions, knowing full well nothing will change and it will be the same year in and year out.
Oh and those of you hoping Jerry dies things will change… Stephen is worse…

Evidently the difference is just a couple of points based on the 2 games played this year.

 

[KingCorcoran]

the question is would they even be in the superbowl if not for Kelly? Dilfer and Foles rode coat tails of others and were beneficiaries. no one will ever consider them for HOF, yet Kelly got in.

with that said, one should ask, if you had to build a team, lets say they were all in their prime and lets say kelly having lost two, but foles and dilfer having rings. who would you pick as the QB of your team?

Jim Kelly

 

[GINeric]

the question is would they even be in the superbowl if not for Kelly? Dilfer and Foles rode coat tails of others and were beneficiaries. no one will ever consider them for HOF, yet Kelly got in.

with that said, one should ask, if you had to build a team, lets say they were all in their prime and lets say kelly having lost two, but foles and dilfer having rings. who would you pick as the QB of your team?

I agree with everything you said. My point in bringing up Foles and Dilfer is to show that comparing one quarterback to another based solely on post season wins are bogus.

Post season stats belong to TEAMS because this is a TEAM sport. So if we say quarterback (A) is better than quarterback (B) because quarterback (A) has a Superbowl ring. Then people can't double back and move goal posts for Kelly and Marino vs Foles and Dilfer.

If the bar is set on a quarterback having a ring then technically their argument says Foles and Dilfer are better than Kelly and Marino. It's either a team game or not.

It can't be a team game for one quarterback.... then an individual responsibility for another quarterback. That's true hypocrisy.

 

[TheSport78]

People in here really trying to pretend like the commanders who hadn’t been in an nfc champ game for 33 years - make it the very first year they change ownership - are acting like that isn’t the main reason for their success. You people really are stupid

Dunno, that QB is pretty good.

 

[GINeric]

I actually agree with a lot you wrote, it’s true everyone on a football team has to do their part.

However, when your QB has that deer caught in the headlights look, a noodle for an arm etc…
I don’t care who his supporting cast is, you’re not going to win.

So getting back to my original thread, this kid Daniels has the same number of wins than the 60M man.
This kid is unfazed and has ice water in his veins.

Frankly would not be surprised if they beat Philly this weekend

You're exactly right. Daniels is appearing to be a generational talent. But you're doing it again.... you said DANIELS has the same amount of playoff as Dak.

Daniels did great in the playoffs, but we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Buccaneers don't carelessly turn the ball over.

You know who had a great impact in the Commanders playoff games as well??? The defense!!! They got turnovers. Daniels don't play defense. Again, this is a team game. The COMMANDERS won these playoff games as a TEAM.

 

[CowboyoWales]

eagles have a 50M+ QB,

Yes, but with his deferred payments your boy actually comes out as a 70m QB.

 

[chicago JK]

Adam Peters may be really good at the GM thing. Stephen and Jerry are really bad at it. If true, the gulf between the two teams will continue to grow. Same with the Eagles. Look at their FA class and draft this summer. One team, had an honest look at their roster and went about correcting it. The other didn't address any of their holes and thought they would fix themselves.

 

[charron]

Would you be ok if Jayden Daniels was on the Cowboys roster, made it to the NFC Championship just this year and lost, but not close again................but his rookie contract is over, market value for QBs was $70M, and Terry McLaurin, Luvu, Sansitril, Ertz, Cosmi and Dyami Brown were up for new contracts too? Now that's the real question.

Go find a cheaper QB. They just proved with a talented rookie QB you can make it to the NFCCG if you have enough talent around him. Do it again, even if you have to tank 1 year to be able to draft high enough. I know Sam Darnold didn't make it this year but that is also not a bad way to go without paying elite money. If you can not afford to build around the QB then you are paying him too much. Look at KC, they are winning because of defense not Mahomes.

 

[Hadenough]

what you miss is that the cultural change and change in management philosophy allowed coaches, GM to put together a team and focus the organizaiton on football. having lived in DC area for a while, that organization under snyder was toxic, filled with internal politics and lacked focus on football. I have first hand experienced the difference between a focused, organization and a toxic work environment when nobody was focused on success, except individual achievements. one company grew, the other went bankrupt and was sold for peanuts.

so by the same token put daniels on this year's cowboys team and I still don't think we make the playoffs. do you? would he be able to put cowboys in NFCCG?

Did daniels have a big part in their success? yes, but he is not the only reason.

I do believe if Daniels was the starter on the Cowboys they could make the NFC championship. EXCEPT I don't believe they would of given him enough of a chance to compete with Dak. I also believe that the Commanders are maybe 8-9 without Daniels. Even Parsons knew Daniels has IT.
Just like as we saw with Belichick, he can't win anything without Brady. But Brady can win without Belichick.

 

[Cmac]

Go find a cheaper QB. They just proved with a talented rookie QB you can make it to the NFCCG if you have enough talent around him. Do it again, even if you have to tank 1 year to be able to draft high enough. I know Sam Darnold didn't make it this year but that is also not a bad way to go without paying elite money. If you can not afford to build around the QB then you are paying him too much. Look at KC, they are winning because of defense not Mahomes.

As for KC.....you're right, Mahomes doesn't have to do as much in comparison to his past exploits......they have a TEAM. And he can make a mistake or two also, and still be in reach......most of the time. They are no longer depending solely on their offense. Same with Josh Allen's team last week, same with Jalen Hurts' team even more, ..,.....but changing QBs on a regular or frequent basis will get you what you deserve......watching. As for us Cowboys......let's build the team and not be misguided that a good GM couldn't do anything about it or believe him with "We're All-In". BTW.....we don't have a good GM and it's not fantasy football. That's nothing to be surprised at.......30 years and counting.

 

[DandyDon52]

I’m reading some of these posts and I wonder if some of you get it.

1) Daniels has more playoff wins than Dak and is going to his 1st championship game, Dak will never see one.
2) the Washington culture has players that will run through walls for their team and coach. That gets results… someone asked Demarcus Lawrence if he’s coming back… the answer was if they pay me!…
3) DQ has done more in 1 year at the helm of the commanders than the cowboys in the last 30 and counting
4) do any of you think the next HC is going to straighten the ship
5) Jerry is the problem… period he does not care win or lose… but hey keep going to the games, buying the merch and keep the cowboys number 1 on Forbes….
That’s all he cares about…

You want change? You want the cowboys to be relevant again?

Then remain fans from a distance, stop buying merchandise, watching or attending games… when the numbers go down and they will…
JJ will move mountains to get them back there…

Or do nothing and continue to share your views and opinions, knowing full well nothing will change and it will be the same year in and year out.
Oh and those of you hoping Jerry dies things will change… Stephen is worse…

I agree except with watching the games.
That only matters if your monitored by the neilsen company. If your not watch all you want, if you are you shouldn't watch at home.Go to a friends house.
All TV ratings that matter are estimates based on how many neilsen viewers watch.