Difference between Washington and Dallas

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Just like as we saw with Belichick, he can't win anything without Brady. But Brady can win without Belichick.
that is so wrong lol
Just to keep it simple, if Bill had the team TB and someone like baker he would have won too.
If brady had stayed in NE and bill went to Tb, brady would have lost and bill would have won.
Brady left because they had no team left, he knew he wouldnt win there.
 

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As for KC.....you're right, Mahomes doesn't have to do as much in comparison to his past exploits......they have a TEAM. And he can make a mistake or two also, and still be in reach......most of the time. They are no longer depending solely on their offense. Same with Josh Allen's team last week, same with Jalen Hurts' team even more, ..,.....but changing QBs on a regular or frequent basis will get you what you deserve......watching. As for us Cowboys......let's build the team and not be misguided that a good GM couldn't do anything about it or believe him with "We're All-In". BTW.....we don't have a good GM and it's not fantasy football. That's nothing to be surprised at.......30 years and counting.
Our grandkids might still be in this purgatory.
 

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I do believe if Daniels was the starter on the Cowboys they could make the NFC championship. EXCEPT I don't believe they would of given him enough of a chance to compete with Dak. I also believe that the Commanders are maybe 8-9 without Daniels. Even Parsons knew Daniels has IT.
Just like as we saw with Belichick, he can't win anything without Brady. But Brady can win without Belichick.
Commanders were 4-13 w/o Daniels in 23.

No, we wouldn't. Cowboys have no D, one WR, and no RB.
 

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that is so wrong lol
Just to keep it simple, if Bill had the team TB and someone like baker he would have won too.
If brady had stayed in NE and bill went to Tb, brady would have lost and bill would have won.
Brady left because they had no team left, he knew he wouldnt win there.
Yeah, that was a very weak conclusion.

NE was great coach meets great QB. It is no more complicated than that.
 

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You're exactly right. Daniels is appearing to be a generational talent. But you're doing it again.... you said DANIELS has the same amount of playoff as Dak.

Daniels did great in the playoffs, but we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Buccaneers don't carelessly turn the ball over.

You know who had a great impact in the Commanders playoff games as well??? The defense!!! They got turnovers. Daniels don't play defense. Again, this is a team game. The COMMANDERS won these playoff games as a TEAM.
so based on one season, he is generational. isn't that a bit early to bring on the annointing oil? was Purdy a generational talent?
 

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they were 4-13 without Daniels, QUinn, had snyder as an owner, and 20 new players added.
you mean kinda like how Stafford won one with the Rams..."All the Rams needed was Stafford"..oh so the other 7 all pro's they got in FA that year didnt help? I pray Jerry drafts a QB so some can let go of this myth, its simple--until Jerry clown Jones hires a real GM and lets him do his job you will have bum coahes/players because no one is winning here under this FO and how they operate...period.
 

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Go find a cheaper QB. They just proved with a talented rookie QB you can make it to the NFCCG if you have enough talent around him. Do it again, even if you have to tank 1 year to be able to draft high enough. I know Sam Darnold didn't make it this year but that is also not a bad way to go without paying elite money. If you can not afford to build around the QB then you are paying him too much. Look at KC, they are winning because of defense not Mahomes.
no denying that having a top QB, is the key, but we all have to be ready for a few wash, rinse repeat cycles to hunt for that QB, which may take a few years each....Daniels was successful. but in the past there was Bryce Young, Richardson, Pickett, Wilson, Lance, Fields, Darnold...it seems like top 10 picks are 50/50 proprosition.

I think QBs are going to get paid. the challenge is having a GM that can manage the cap to sign players they need. Philly, Detroit, GB seem to do a good job of it. Jerry finds excuses.
 

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Yes, but with his deferred payments your boy actually comes out as a 70m QB.
whose boy?

yeah, you are really trying....trying really hard.....really really hard...but failing

why couldn't jerry do the same in the contract!? yeah, one team has a real GM focused on winning, the other is using the team as a marketing machine.
 

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this defense was playing hard for Big Mike until the end...

dallas has players...that work for a carnival
 

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I do believe if Daniels was the starter on the Cowboys they could make the NFC championship. EXCEPT I don't believe they would of given him enough of a chance to compete with Dak. I also believe that the Commanders are maybe 8-9 without Daniels. Even Parsons knew Daniels has IT.
Just like as we saw with Belichick, he can't win anything without Brady. But Brady can win without Belichick.
that's not why I asked,

so you think this dysfunctional team, would be in NFCCG because of daniels. you are entitled to your opinion. I don't think this team would have. Daniels may have the IT, but too much dysfunction in cowboys org to overcome. the GM forced Zeke to start on the coach because "like to see what he can do"....instead of the coach deciding. the GM is doing it again, wanting Witten to be on the coaching staff. the GM forced Moore on MM, how did that workout? he keeps doing stuff like that. where Commanders get to focus on football, we have fans buy tickets and roam through the building watching the players lift and workout.

I am not denying that a QB makes a difference, but its not all the difference. a lot has to be in place. people point to Brady, but I can point to others who failed. one example does not a generality make.
 

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you mean kinda like how Stafford won one with the Rams..."All the Rams needed was Stafford"..oh so the other 7 all pro's they got in FA that year didnt help? I pray Jerry drafts a QB so some can let go of this myth, its simple--until Jerry clown Jones hires a real GM and lets him do his job you will have bum coahes/players because no one is winning here under this FO and how they operate...period.
great point. a lot of Dak haters want to only make it about the QB, because that's all they want to talk about. they added 20 FAs last year and pretty much a new team. Armstrong was a nobody in Dallas, and he had two sacks of Goff in the division game. and to your point, Rams went to superbowl with Goff, literally losing in the end of the game to the Goat. so good enough team to go that far, Stafford was just slightly better than Goff. and if an Elite QB is all one needs, then Stafford should have had a couple of rings in Detroit.
 

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so based on one season, he is generational. isn't that a bit early to bring on the annointing oil? was Purdy a generational talent?

I get what you're saying and yes it may be too early to crown Daniels.

With that said, Purdy had an All-Star cast around him on offense with a dynamic offensive coordinator. Daniels has only one All Pro on his offense. When Purdy's toys broke down on him, he looked average. Daniels IS the offense and have better natural skills than Purdy.
 

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I can't believe you said death of someone is a positive thing!!!! this is a game. entertainment. its not life and death. as much as I don't like jerry, I don't wish him or want him to die.
people sometimes cross the line of life with entertainment...you are unhappy with cowboys, go watch something else.
relax.
It's not that I'm actively rooting for him to kick off, but if you remove emotion and look at it totally objectively, the fact is it will be a positive for a whole lot of people.
 

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I get what you're saying and yes it may be too early to crown Daniels.

With that said, Purdy had an All-Star cast around him on offense with a dynamic offensive coordinator. Daniels has only one All Pro on his offense. When Purdy's toys broke down on him, he looked average. Daniels IS the offense and have better natural skills than Purdy.
that's the point, lets wait a couple of years before annointing....nobody annointed Mahomes until several seasons after.
RG3 was similar to Daniels, although didn't have quite the success first season, but everyone was annointing him. then he broke down.

I don't annoint anyone, until they have done it several times. anyone can have one good season. its being consistent that makes the difference between elite and non-elite, between generational and non-generational.
 

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It's not that I'm actively rooting for him to kick off, but if you remove emotion and look at it totally objectively, the fact is it will be a positive for a whole lot of people.
not for him and his family. no matter what we think, its still entertainment. if he lives until 95 and we continue to suck because of him, then it is what it is. I find something else to entertain myself.
 

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You're exactly right. Daniels is appearing to be a generational talent. But you're doing it again.... you said DANIELS has the same amount of playoff as Dak.

Daniels did great in the playoffs, but we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Buccaneers don't carelessly turn the ball over.

You know who had a great impact in the Commanders playoff games as well??? The defense!!! They got turnovers. Daniels don't play defense. Again, this is a team game. The COMMANDERS won these playoff games as a TEAM.
No I am not… I was comparing playoff wins Daniels to Dak.
However, yes the commanders defense is playing exceptional which I also stated in my original points.

Now tell me, since football is a team sport… what do you say then to our playoff performances with Dak at the helm and some very good defenses?

Dak and the team have failed repeatedly to lesser teams…

Dak does not have Daniels attitude…
Nor does our defense or team run through walls.

We have a bunch of overhyped and overpaid players… with exception to a few
 

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I get what you're saying and yes it may be too early to crown Daniels.

With that said, Purdy had an All-Star cast around him on offense with a dynamic offensive coordinator. Daniels has only one All Pro on his offense. When Purdy's toys broke down on him, he looked average. Daniels IS the offense and have better natural skills than Purdy.
The other thing worth mentioning is that those players around Daniels are feeding off of his play. Even the defense has stepped it up because they want to put the game in Daniels hands.
 
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